[GRIDRPC-WG] Fwd: OGF support for OGC Web Processing Service spec?

Eddy Caron Eddy.Caron at ens-lyon.fr
Thu May 29 02:27:45 CDT 2008


Dear Hidemoto,

	Everything sounds good for me.

Regards,
Eddy


Le 28 mai 08 à 01:51, Hidemoto Nakada a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> BTW, I've met Yves last week and had great discussion with him.
> Thanks, Yves!
>
>>       About the presentation:
>>
>>       How do you want to proceed ? Some points should be fixed very  
>> quickly
>> :
>>
>>               T1. Who gives the talk ?
>                          Hidemoto, and Eddy
>>
>>               T2. Who does the slides pattern ?
>    I'm not sure that I understand the term 'pattern', here.
>    But, I'll assemble  all the slides into single presentation.
>
>>               T3. Who does slides about Grid-RPC overview ?
>>                       -> You (Hidemoto and Team) ?
>   will do that.
>
>>               T4. Who does slides about Grid-RPC data management
>>                       -> us (Yves/Gaël/Eddy)
>>               T5. Who does slides about Ninf ?
>   we will, off cource.
>
>>               T6. Who does slides about DIET ?
>>                       -> us (Yves/Gaël/Eddy/Frederic)
>>
>>               T7. Who does slides about GridSolve ?
>>                       -> Keith ?
>   I hope so.
>
>>               T8. Who answer to Craig's question:  GridRPC   
>> (Besides the
>> call-response, could Data Handles be used in WPS?)
>>                       ->
>  I think we can discuss in person at the OGF venue.
>
>>               T9. This talk is in conjunction with Open Geospatial
>> Consortium. Have you Geospatial application that we could show.
>
>   no. we (the AIST) have them, but they are not related to Ninf.
>
>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Eddy
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 27 mai 08 à 14:09, Hidemoto Nakada a écrit :
>>
>>> Eddy,
>>>
>>> How about giving presentation by both of us?
>>>
>>> One of us will give the Overview and Ninf or Diet
>>> and the other will give the rest.
>>>
>>> Keith, could you give us 5-7 slides on GridSolve?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:08 AM, Eddy Caron <Eddy.Caron at ens-lyon.fr>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Hidemoto,
>>>>
>>>> We can help you for slides. It could be
>>>>
>>>>     Part 1. Grid-RPC overview (basic and with data management)
>>>>     Part 2. the overview of few Grid-RPC middleware.
>>>>                  Ninf, NetSolve/GridSolve, DIET, Omni-RPC
>>>>
>>>> How many time ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Eddy
>>>>
>>>> Le 7 mai 08 à 04:02, Hidemoto Nakada a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> We've got an invitation for a talk at the upcoming OGC-OGF  
>>>>> workshop at
>>>>> OGF-23 from Craig,  one of the co-chairs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we should give it.
>>>>>
>>>>> any idea?
>>>>>
>>>>> -hidemoto
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From:  <lee at aero.org>
>>>>> Date: Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:21 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: OGF support for OGC Web Processing Service spec?
>>>>> To: lee at aero.org, Hidemoto Nakada <hide-nakada at aist.go.jp>, Yves
>>>>> Caniou <yves.caniou at ens-lyon.fr>, s.jha at ucl.ac.uk, kielmann at cs.vu.nl 
>>>>> ,
>>>>> Andre Merzky <andre at merzky.net>, Andrew Grimshaw
>>>>> <grimshaw at virginia.edu>, Steven Newhouse
>>>>> <Steven.Newhouse at microsoft.com>, humphrey at cs.virginia.edu,  
>>>>> Geoffrey
>>>>> Fox <gcf at grids.ucs.indiana.edu>, Christopher Smith
>>>>> <csmith at platform.com>
>>>>> Cc: Satoshi Sekiguchi <s.sekiguchi at aist.go.jp>, Chris Higgins
>>>>> <erpl70 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, George Percivall
>>>>> <gpercivall at opengeospatial.org>, craig at rushg.aero.org, scumb at ogf.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As part of the upcoming OGC-OGF workshop in Barcelona at OGF-23,  
>>>>> I would
>>>>> very much like to get a brief overview talk from (ideally ;-) the
>>>>> SAGA, GridRPC,
>>>>> and HPC-Basic Profile groups.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The OGF-23 workshop is being coordinated with the OGC Technical
>>>>> Committee
>>>>> meeting which is taking place the exact same days as OGF-23 but in
>>>>> Potsdam, Germany.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hence, while these overview talks will be presented in  
>>>>> Barcelona, their
>>>>> primary
>>>>> audience is intended to be the OGC folks who will be in Potsdam.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OGC represents a potential new user community for OGF grid tools  
>>>>> so this
>>>>> is
>>>>> an important opportunity.  Also, the next OGC Web Services  
>>>>> Testbed,
>>>>> OWS-6,
>>>>> is still in the planning process, and what we discuss in this  
>>>>> workshop
>>>>> could
>>>>> very well be picked up for testing and demonstration by the OWS-6
>>>>> sponsors
>>>>> and participants.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know if your group can provide an overview talk.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --Craig
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 12:52 PM -0800 2/29/08, lee at aero.org wrote:
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This request is an action that came out of this week's OGC-OGF
>>>>> Collaboration workshop.
>>>>>
>>>>> OGC (Open Geospatial Consortium) has just announced version 1.0  
>>>>> of their
>>>>> Web
>>>>> Processing Service.  (I've forwarded the press release below.)   
>>>>> I've
>>>>> looked at
>>>>> earlier versions of this document and based on my initial
>>>>> assessments, it seems
>>>>> that WPS could very possibly map to:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) HPC-Basic Profile  (How would WPS work w/ JSDL and BES?)
>>>>> 2) GridRPC  (Besides the call-response, could Data Handles be  
>>>>> used in
>>>>> WPS?)
>>>>> 3) SAGA  (Much like the GridRPC package, could there be a WPS  
>>>>> package?)
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be extremely helpful to get others from each of these  
>>>>> groups to
>>>>> make
>>>>> their own assessment.  WPS is a basic request-response mechanism  
>>>>> with
>>>>> only
>>>>> basic
>>>>> support for managing where the data is.  Depending on who you  
>>>>> ask, ~80%
>>>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>> data the human race has collected or generated is geospatial
>>>>> referenced.  Hence,
>>>>> OGC represents a huge user base for geospatial data and, imho,  
>>>>> is a
>>>>> natural
>>>>> adjacency for grids.  All insights, issues, and comments are  
>>>>> desired!
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that many of us are very busy and simply will not have  
>>>>> time to
>>>>> read
>>>>> an
>>>>> 86-page document from beginning to end.  But, as with many  
>>>>> standards
>>>>> documents,
>>>>> the core of the spec is presented in only about ten pages, with  
>>>>> the rest
>>>>> of the
>>>>> doc being necessary detail to clearly define the spec.  Hence,  
>>>>> pages
>>>>> 4-11
>>>>> present the WPS overview, and pages 11-48 go into more detail  
>>>>> about the
>>>>> three
>>>>> main WPS functions: GetCapability, DescribeProcess, and Execute.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know right away if you can help with this  
>>>>> assessment.
>>>>> I'd like to collect comments in a few weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> --Craig
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Delivered-To: lee at aero.org
>>>>> Delivered-To: lee at ogf.org
>>>>> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:48:22 -0500
>>>>> From: OGC Press <announce at opengeospatial.org>
>>>>> Organization: OGC
>>>>> To: tc at opengeospatial.org, pc at opengeospatial.org
>>>>> X-Virus-Status: Clean
>>>>> Subject: [Tc] OGC(R) Approves Web Processing Service Standard
>>>>> X-BeenThere: tc at opengeospatial.org
>>>>> Reply-To: announce at opengeospatial.org
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>>>>> of the
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>>>>> Sender: tc-bounces+lee=ogf.org at opengeospatial.org
>>>>>
>>>>> PRESS ANNOUNCEMENT FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>>> For information about this announcement, contact:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sam Bacharach
>>>>> Executive Director, Outreach and Community Adoption
>>>>> Open Geospatial Consortium, Inc
>>>>> tel: +1-703-352-3938
>>>>> sbacharach at opengeospatial.org
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayland, Mass., February 22, 2008 - The members of the Open  
>>>>> Geospatial
>>>>> Consortium, Inc. (OGC) have approved version 1.0 of the OpenGIS(R)
>>>>> Web Processing Service (WPS) Interface Standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> The WPS standard defines an interface that facilitates the  
>>>>> publishing
>>>>> of geospatial processes and makes it easier to write software  
>>>>> clients
>>>>> that can discover and bind to those processes. Processes include  
>>>>> any
>>>>> algorithm, calculation or model that operates on spatially  
>>>>> referenced
>>>>> raster or vector data. Publishing means making available
>>>>> machine-readable binding information as well as human-readable
>>>>> metadata that allows service discovery and use.
>>>>>
>>>>> A WPS can be used to define calculations as simple as  
>>>>> subtracting one
>>>>> set of spatially referenced data from another (e.g., determining  
>>>>> the
>>>>> difference in influenza cases between two different seasons), or  
>>>>> as
>>>>> complicated as a hydrological model. The data required by the  
>>>>> WPS can
>>>>> be delivered across a network or it can be made available at the
>>>>> server. This interface specification provides mechanisms to  
>>>>> identify
>>>>> the spatially referenced data required by the calculation,  
>>>>> initiate
>>>>> the calculation, and manage the output from the calculation so  
>>>>> that
>>>>> the client can access it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The OGC's WPS standard will play an important role in automating
>>>>> workflows that involve geospatial data and geoprocessing services.
>>>>>
>>>>> The OGC(R) is an international consortium of more than 345
>>>>> companies, government agencies, research organizations, and
>>>>> universities participating in a consensus process to develop  
>>>>> publicly
>>>>> available geospatial standards. OpenGIS(R) Standards support
>>>>> interoperable solutions that "geo-enable" the Web, wireless
>>>>> and location-based services, and mainstream IT. OGC Standards  
>>>>> empower
>>>>> technology developers to make geospatial information and services
>>>>> accessible and useful with any application that needs to be
>>>>> geospatially enabled. Visit the OGC website at
>>>>> http://www.opengeospatial.org/.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> https://mail.opengeospatial.org/mailman/listinfo/tc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:05-007r7_Web_Process#616217.pdf
>>>>> (PDF /«IC») (00616217)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> HIDEMOTO NAKADA, AIST
>>>>> --
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>>>>> gridrpc-wg at ogf.org
>>>>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/gridrpc-wg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Eddy Caron. Mcf ENS Lyon
>>>> ENS Lyon - LIP - Projet GRAAL
>>>> 46 Allee d'Italie, 69364 Lyon Cedex 07, France
>>>> E-Mail : Eddy.Caron at ens-lyon.fr
>>>> [ Tel : 04.37.28.76.46 ][ Web page : http://graal.ens-lyon.fr/~ecaron 
>>>>  ]
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> HIDEMOTO NAKADA, AIST
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Eddy Caron. Mcf ENS Lyon
>> ENS Lyon - LIP - Projet GRAAL
>> 46 Allee d'Italie, 69364 Lyon Cedex 07, France
>> E-Mail : Eddy.Caron at ens-lyon.fr
>> [ Tel : 04.37.28.76.46 ][ Web page : http://graal.ens-lyon.fr/ 
>> ~ecaron ]
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>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> HIDEMOTO NAKADA, AIST

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Eddy Caron. Mcf ENS Lyon
ENS Lyon - LIP - Projet GRAAL
46 Allee d'Italie, 69364 Lyon Cedex 07, France
E-Mail : Eddy.Caron at ens-lyon.fr
[ Tel : 04.37.28.76.46 ][ Web page : http://graal.ens-lyon.fr/~ecaron ]
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