[GRAAP-WG] New Pages/ Usage Scenarios Glossaries.

[Toshiyuki Nakata]

Hi: I've updated the Wishlist page
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.graap-wg/wiki/ReNeg
otiationWishlists
 to add pointers to Usage Scenarios
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.graap-wg/wiki/Usage
Scenarios
and Glossary
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.graap-wg/wiki/Gloss
aryPage

#I'm afraid I hadn't noticed the naming convention of the wiki. 
#I probably  need to put a prefix on the newer pages so that there won't be
name conflicts.
#Does anyone know of how to rename already established ones?


Comments very much welcome.

I'm afraid I won't be able to participate in OGF21 due to schedule
c[lr]ashes but 
hope to respond on the wiki / mailing lists.

Best Regards
Toshi
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Toshiyuki Nakata 中田　登志之
Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC
1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku,
Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan
Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035)
Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509)
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toshiyuki Nakata [mailto:t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:31 AM
> To: 'Dominic Battre'
> Cc: 'GRAAP-WG'
> Subject: RE: [GRAAP-WG] Modification to the wiki Page on 
> Renegotiating an established Agreement
> 
> Hi: Dominic：
> Thank you very much for your thoughtful comments.
> I'll just address the first one. For the rest, please give me 
> some time.
> 
> >ad "New EPR or re-write the current WS-AG document?" 
> >during the renegotiation the agreement is in some kind of 
> intermediate
> change (i.e. it might be in a proposed
> > new status that is not yet accepted by the other party), 
> don't we need a
> new EPR for that? 
> 
> The reason that I wanted to re-write the current WS-AG rather 
> than a new EPR
> was that one could never know
> who might be using the old EPR. In a complex scenario like the one I
> mentioned in Business Grid Computing case or
> some  broker case, old EPR might be propagated to other 
> parties who would be
> using it.
> So I thought that it would not be realistic to assure that 
> the NEW EPR would
> be propagated to all the 
> bodies who might be referring to the old EPR.
> 
> On the other hand, re-writing the current WS-AG document kept by the
> Agreement Responder does cause
> a serious race condition when the AR is the requestor for 
> modifying the
> Agreement.
> (ie. it must be re-written only after the AI says he agrees, 
> but when?)  
> 
> >What would the ResourceProperties (e.g. the SDTs or GTs) 
> look like in the
> intermediate state? (DB, 2007/08/22) 
> I am assuming that the service (under the old SLA) is still 
> being provided
> even while the renegotiation is going on.
> (If the service is stopped, then we don't need renegotiation. We just
> terminate the old agreement and create a new agreement)
> 
> As for the rest of your comments, essentially I agree with 
> you. The only
> problemis that some of them seem to be very difficult
> to address :-( In any case, please give me some time as I can 
> only do this
> work sporadically.
> 
> Best regards
> Toshi
> -----
> Toshiyuki Nakata 中田　登志之
> Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC
> 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku,
> Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan
> Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035)
> Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509)
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dominic Battre [mailto:mailinglists at battre.de] 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 5:18 AM
> > To: Toshiyuki Nakata
> > Cc: 'GRAAP-WG'
> > Subject: Re: [GRAAP-WG] Modification to the wiki Page on 
> > Renegotiating an established Agreement
> > 
> > Hi Toshi,
> > 
> > I did some brainstorming and added some random 
> comments/wishes/ideas.
> > Please have a look whether anything could be useful for the further
> > proceeding. I don't know how much you have discussed and discarded
> > before. Please feel free to ask me, in case my comments are 
> confusing.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Dominic
> > 
> > Toshiyuki Nakata wrote:
> > > Hi:
> > > I've put up some more things to ponder on the 
> > re-negotiation Wiki Page
> > > 
> > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.graap
> > -wg/wiki/ReNeg
> > > otiationWishlists?_message=1187773027531
> > > esp. No.7 is rather a tough one.
> > > 
> > > Comments welcome.
> > > 
> > > Best Regards
> > > Toshi
> > > -----
> > > Toshiyuki Nakata 中田　登志之
> > > Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC
> > > 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku,
> > > Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan
> > > Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035)
> > > Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509)
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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