[graap-wg] url for the Web Services Policy WG in W3C

[Toshiyuki Nakata]

> Hello:
> Asit: Thank you very much for the pointer.
> 
> I intend to attend today's teleconference, but I might fail 
> to do so,
..
> All in all I would suggest that for this version of the spec, 
> we should stick to the current spec to be released and 
> consider the modifications for the next version of the specification.

Sorry I couldn't attend last week's teleconference.

Afterwards I heard that the modification to the current 
spec would be small....

So..
Since the change seems to be small, could we keep the spec as it is and
reflect the change when the new WS-Policy specification is finalised ?

Best Regards
Toshi

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Toshiyuki Nakata 中田　登志之
Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 
1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, 
Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan 
Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035)
Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toshiyuki Nakata [mailto:t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 9:18 AM
> To: 'Asit Dan'
> Cc: 'GRAAP-WG'
> Subject: RE: [graap-wg] url for the Web Services Policy WG in W3C 
> 
> Hello:
> Asit: Thank you very much for the pointer.
> 
> I intend to attend today's teleconference, but I might fail 
> to do so, so here are my views on  PROS and CONS:
> 
> PROS: 
> Quote: from
>   http://www.w3.org/2006/04/ws-policy-charter.html
> "Web Services Policy defines a flexible policy data model and 
> an extensible grammar for expressing the capabilities,  
> requirements and general characteristics of a Web service, 
> and defines mechanisms for associating policies with Web 
> service constructs. 
> Web Services Policy is used to convey the conditions for an 
> interaction between a Web service requester and a Web service 
> provider."
> It would be good to have this related part in WS-Agreement 
> described in a compatible way as that would make acceptance 
> of WS-Agreement  easier.
> 
> CONS:
> 1)Adopting WS-Policy would mean that WS-Agreement would 
> depend on a specification which still needs to be agreeed to.
> While the charter does say that "Therefore, this Working 
> Group shall be schedule-driven and Web Services Policy shall 
> remain compatible with and to the extent possible accommodate 
> the use of these existing policy assertions. "
> Until the final draft is out, one may not know what will stay stable. 
> The end date is 31 December 2007 which is a year and a half 
> away. I think many people have been waiting  for WS-Agreement 
> spec to be completed and to have to really wait more might 
> have negative effects.
> 
> 2)Adopting WS-Policy would mean that there would be need to 
> change the current implementations.
> I do not know how many implementations of WS-policy there are 
> in the world but to have to modify the current 
> imlplementation would have some negative issues (at least for 
> the implementation people) for getting interoperability etc.
> 
> 3)(This is a minor issue) Since this has a large impact, we 
> might need another call of public comments.
> 
> All in all I would suggest that for this version of the spec, 
> we should stick to the current spec to be released and 
> consider the modifications for the next version of the specification.
> 
> Best regards
> Toshi
> 
> -----
> Toshiyuki Nakata 中田　登志之
> Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 1753, 
> Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan 
> Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) Fax 
> +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-graap-wg at ggf.org 
> [mailto:owner-graap-wg at ggf.org] On Behalf 
> > Of Asit Dan
> > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:04 AM
> > To: Toshiyuki Nakata
> > Cc: GRAAP-WG
> > Subject: [graap-wg] url for the Web Services Policy WG in W3C
> > 
> > 
> > Toshi, 
> >    As per the discussion in today's call, here is the  url 
> for the Web 
> > Services Policy Working Group Charter.
> >             http://www.w3.org/2006/04/ws-policy-charter.html
> > 
> > You can find the WS-Policy document by following the 
> WS-Policy” Member 
> > Submission <http://www.w3.org/Submission/2006/06/>  link.
> > Regards.
> > Asit Dan, Ph.D.
> > SWG SOA Design Requirements
> > Phone: (914) 766-1767
> > Internet: asit at us.ibm.com
> > ICSOC 06 PC Chair (http://www.icsoc.org)
> > 
> 
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