[glue-wg] FW: Change Doc Root element name in GLUE2 XML rendering

Mon Oct 21 10:35:14 EDT 2013

David,

I just uploaded some minor changes too. Make sure to grab the latest, change, and upload quickly so we don't overwrite each other. As long as we keep change tracking on we'll see who made which change. I also accepted formatting changes so that change tracking more clearly reflects substantive changes. 

In principle I think you're right about GLUE2 versus GLUE, except perhaps if we consider GLUE 1 and GLUE 2 major "generations" that might be totally incompatible.  I'm comfortable either way and will support the majority position. I agree we should not have detail version numbers in the root element name.

JP

On Oct 21, 2013, at 9:00 AM, <david.meredith at stfc.ac.uk> wrote:

> hi Shiraz,
> I was going to mention this quickly at tomorrows WG meeting in the AOB. I prefer GLUE not GLUE2.  I think versioning info should be restricted to the XSD namespace and not used to define element names. For example, suppose in the future we introduce some extensions or new elements and call this 'GLUE2.1' or 'GLUE2.2' etc, existing XPath expressions that define the root element name would need to be re-written, e.g.
> '/GLUE2/ComputingService/ID'
> 
> I've also made a few grammar changes to my local version and was aiming to upload this and submit for final call after the wg meeting.
> thanks
> david
> 
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> From: glue-wg-bounces at ogf.org [glue-wg-bounces at ogf.org] on behalf of Shiraz Memon [a.memon at fz-juelich.de]
> Sent: 21 October 2013 14:16
> To: OGF GLUE WG
> Subject: Re: [glue-wg] FW: Change Doc Root element name in GLUE2 XML rendering
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have replaced the root element "Entities" with "GLUE2" in the xml rendering document[1]. The changes in the document have been tracked, so will be finalized once approved within the wg. Should you find any errors/typos, please let me or JP know.
> 
> Best regards,
> Shiraz and JP
> 
> [1] http://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf_files/13146?download=
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Shiraz Memon <a.memon at fz-juelich.de<mailto:a.memon at fz-juelich.de>> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I tend to agree that "Glue2" or "GLUE2" is a more consistent root element name than the other two. Regardless of being (slightly) descriptive, the name also reflects the current specification version.
> 
> In spite of the fact that the "Glue" (as a root element) is being used within the LDAP rendering, we should not carry along with its legacies while modifying other spec. renderings.
> 
> Hope it won't be unfair to change my vote (certainly for the last time) for "GLUE2" :)
> 
> If there are no real objections, can we close the issue and proceed with the publication process.
> 
> Best regards,
> Shiraz
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Warren Smith <wsmith at tacc.utexas.edu<mailto:wsmith at tacc.utexas.edu>> wrote:
> 
> The GFD.147 document uses ‘GLUE’ instead of ‘Glue’. The XML element names follow the CamelCase of the attribute names in GFD.147, so you could argue that we should follow the capitalization of glue, also.
> 
> And as Florido mentions, we could use ‘GLUE2’ to be more precise.
> 
> I think ‘GLUE2’ would be my favorite of those three options (since that is how I think of our effort). Using something more descriptive than ‘Entities’ as the root element makes sense to me.
> 
> 
> Warren
> 
> 
> 
> From: glue-wg-bounces at ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg-bounces at ogf.org> [mailto:glue-wg-bounces at ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg-bounces at ogf.org>] On Behalf Of Shiraz Memon
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 4:27 AM
> To: OGF GLUE WG
> Subject: Re: [glue-wg] FW: Change Doc Root element name in GLUE2 XML rendering
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> For consistency and readability's sake, I would vote for "Glue" as the main root element. This can be seen as one of the changes needed by the potential glue compliant information system/application(s) that aims to adopt the latest xml flat rendering. Thus, better to change it now than later.
> 
> With that, however, one more proponent has been added :)
> 
> Has any deadline been fixed to reach the final agreement on this issue?
> 
> Best regards,
> Shiraz
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM, <david.meredith at stfc.ac.uk<mailto:david.meredith at stfc.ac.uk>> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Are there any more comments/votes regarding the proposed change of the Document root element name from ‘<Entities>’ to ‘<Glue>’ (see original message copied below)?  So far, 2 votes for (DM, JP) and 1 vote against (Florido).
> 
> Can we get this resolved so we can move to the last step in the OGF doc process for the Glue2 xml rendering (i.e. final call)
> 
> Cheers,
> David
> 
> 
> 
> From: Meredith, David (STFC,DL,SC)
> Sent: 19 September 2013 10:42
> To: glue-wg at ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg at ogf.org> WG
> Subject: Change Doc Root element name
> 
> hi all,
> I have one suggestion for a small change for the glue2 XML rendering.
> Since the Ldap rendering defines 'glue' as the root attribute in an RDN string, similarly we could consider changing the Document Root element from '<Entities>' to '<Glue>'. This is a v.minor change and would be more consistent with the ldap rendering.
> 
> What do you think?
> David
> http://redmine.ogf.org/boards/9/topics/29
> 
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