[gin-data] Re: progress...

[Jules Wolfrat]

Hello Bill,
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gin-data at ggf.org [mailto:owner-gin-data at ggf.org] 
> On Behalf Of William E. Allcock
> Sent: donderdag 27 juli 2006 15:48
> To: 'David Wallom'; 'Erwin Laure'; 'Gregor von Laszewski'
> Cc: gin-data at ggf.org; 'Mihael Hategan'; 'Raj Kettimuthu'
> Subject: RE: [gin-data] Re: progress...
> 
> Ok, so for the immediate issue, Gregor (or his appropriate 
> designee), simply
> needs to use the registration page and after it is pushed 
> out, they should
> be able to make test runs against an installed GridFTP 
> server, correct?  Can
> we assume they are all on the standard port (2811) or is there a page
> somewhere that lists the contact strings?
> 
> For my curiosity sake, all the Grids are using pool accounts, 
> including the
> TeraGrid?  How do you do auditing?  For instance, if we were 
> to push a 100TB
> file at a site and fill up the available space, how would you 
> know who did
> it?

DEISA isn't using pool accounts, at least not up to now. So auditing
isn't the problem. 
On the other hand we still have to set up GridFTP services within DEISA
(GPFS is now the way to distribute data), but I guess we will use the
same set up as for our other services and have a direct mapping between
grid credentials and uids.

But in case of pool accounts, can't you find the credentials in the
GridFTP logs? Of course you must archive them and it may take some
effort to find out.

Cheers,

Jules
> 
> Bill 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Wallom [mailto:david.wallom at oerc.ox.ac.uk] 
> > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 8:42 AM
> > To: allcock at mcs.anl.gov; Erwin Laure; 'Gregor von Laszewski'
> > Cc: gin-data at ggf.org; 'Mihael Hategan'; 'Raj Kettimuthu'
> > Subject: Re: [gin-data] Re: progress...
> > 
> > Hello Bill,
> > 
> > That is a gridmapfile that uses the pool accounts patch that 
> > was applied
> > through EDG. Within the UK we have a patch to make this work 
> > with both PreWS
> > & WS version of GT4 if you want.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > 
> > On 27/7/06 14:35, "William E. Allcock" <allcock at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
> > 
> > > Never having used VOMS, I guess I am also a little 
> > confused.  I went to the
> > > registration page, and I looked in the gridmapfile.  
> > However, the gridmap
> > > file isn't really a gridmap file, because it doesn't 
> > actually map anything.
> > > It has a list of DNs, but there are no accounts associated 
> > with them, which
> > > is what the gridmap file does.  So, I think Gregor's (and 
> > my) question is,
> > > what account will the GridFTP server that gets invoked be 
> > run under?  Or
> > > does each Grid take responsibility for mapping it to some 
> > appropriately
> > > restricted account and we can just not worry about that?
> > > 
> > > Bill 
> > > 
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: owner-gin-data at ggf.org [mailto:owner-gin-data at ggf.org]
> > >> On Behalf Of Erwin Laure
> > >> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:22 AM
> > >> To: Gregor von Laszewski
> > >> Cc: gin-data at ggf.org; Mihael Hategan; Raj Kettimuthu
> > >> Subject: [gin-data] Re: progress...
> > >> 
> > >> Hi Gregor,
> > >> 
> > >> You can get an initial list of Grids for testing purposes from:
> > >> http://wiki.nesc.ac.uk/read/gin-jobs?GinResources
> > >> 
> > >> Why do you need accounts on these Grids? Wouldn't simply
> > >> joining the GIN 
> > >> VO do? Information on how to join the VO is available at
> > >> http://wiki.nesc.ac.uk/read/gin-jobs
> > >> This VO is supported by all GIN sites.
> > >> 
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> 
> > >> -- Erwin
> > >> 
> > >> Gregor von Laszewski wrote:
> > >>> Erwin:
> > >>> 
> > >>>     we have tested our tool and it works as expected.
> > >> However, there is
> > >>> some issue in regards to renewing accounts and alloctaions
> > >> on TG to  run 
> > >>> this that are not yet resolved. To no longer delay the
> > >> publication of 
> > >>> the data, we have involved Raj that will start the  program
> > >> for us on 
> > >>> the TG. We hope this takes place tomorrow. This  also
> > >> allows us to test
> > >>> the "easy deploy" requirement of the systems  so it could
> > >> be replicated 
> > >>> on other systems. Mike is improving the  documentation to 
> > make this
> > >>> happening.
> > >>> 
> > >>> In return we have one question that we issued to this
> > >> mailinglist  before:
> > >>> 
> > >>> On which other Grids should we test our software?
> > >>> Is there someone in the GIN working group that can let us
> > >> know which  
> > >>> Grids we should approach next? From the experience we had with
> > >>> obtaining accouts, it looks like we want to get this
> > >> established  ASAP.
> > >>> in order to start the application program. We probably need
> > >>  some kind 
> > >>> of "sponsor" or "champion" to push this out on the other
> > >> Grids. So if 
> > >>> there are people from other Grids (other than TG) in  
> this working
> > >>> group, maybe you can let us know how we should approach  getting
> > >>> accounts on your Grids.
> > >>> 
> > >>> I would assume this applies also to the other technologies
> > >> from the  
> > >>> GIN-WG, do you have a uniform project description that 
> I can point
> > >>> other Grids to as part of the application process?
> > >>> 
> > >>> Gregor
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> On Jul 25, 2006, at 4:39 AM, Erwin Laure wrote:
> > >>> 
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> GGF18 is coming up soon. Could we please get an update on
> > >> the  interop 
> > >>>> tests of SRB, SRM, and gridFTP?
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> We will use this information to make an interop matrix
> > >> available on  
> > >>>> the GIN gridforge pages.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Also, we should prepare instructions of how people can 
> run these
> > >>>> tests themselves, i.e. test, whether their infrastructure is
> > >>>> interoperable with others.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> -- Erwin
> > >>>> 
> > >>> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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