[gin-data] Re: progress...

Erwin Laure Erwin.Laure at cern.ch
Thu Jul 27 08:40:46 CDT 2006


Hi Bill,

It is as you say in your last sentence. VOMS basically provides a 
database of users. This information (either directly from the VOMS 
server or indirectly via the webpage or RSS feed) is used by the 
individual grids to map the DNs into their own user space. It's up to 
the Grid how they do the mapping, most use pool-accounts though, I believe.

I've cc'ed the gin-auth group for further details and corrections.

Cheers,

-- Erwin

William E. Allcock wrote:
> Never having used VOMS, I guess I am also a little confused.  I went to the
> registration page, and I looked in the gridmapfile.  However, the gridmap
> file isn't really a gridmap file, because it doesn't actually map anything.
> It has a list of DNs, but there are no accounts associated with them, which
> is what the gridmap file does.  So, I think Gregor's (and my) question is,
> what account will the GridFTP server that gets invoked be run under?  Or
> does each Grid take responsibility for mapping it to some appropriately
> restricted account and we can just not worry about that?
> 
> Bill 
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-gin-data at ggf.org [mailto:owner-gin-data at ggf.org] 
>>On Behalf Of Erwin Laure
>>Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:22 AM
>>To: Gregor von Laszewski
>>Cc: gin-data at ggf.org; Mihael Hategan; Raj Kettimuthu
>>Subject: [gin-data] Re: progress...
>>
>>Hi Gregor,
>>
>>You can get an initial list of Grids for testing purposes from:
>>http://wiki.nesc.ac.uk/read/gin-jobs?GinResources
>>
>>Why do you need accounts on these Grids? Wouldn't simply 
>>joining the GIN 
>>VO do? Information on how to join the VO is available at 
>>http://wiki.nesc.ac.uk/read/gin-jobs
>>This VO is supported by all GIN sites.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>-- Erwin
>>
>>Gregor von Laszewski wrote:
>>
>>>Erwin:
>>>
>>>    we have tested our tool and it works as expected. 
>>
>>However, there is  
>>
>>>some issue in regards to renewing accounts and alloctaions 
>>
>>on TG to  run 
>>
>>>this that are not yet resolved. To no longer delay the  
>>
>>publication of 
>>
>>>the data, we have involved Raj that will start the  program 
>>
>>for us on 
>>
>>>the TG. We hope this takes place tomorrow. This  also 
>>
>>allows us to test 
>>
>>>the "easy deploy" requirement of the systems  so it could 
>>
>>be replicated 
>>
>>>on other systems. Mike is improving the  documentation to make this 
>>>happening.
>>>
>>>In return we have one question that we issued to this 
>>
>>mailinglist  before:
>>
>>>On which other Grids should we test our software?
>>>Is there someone in the GIN working group that can let us 
>>
>>know which  
>>
>>>Grids we should approach next? From the experience we had with  
>>>obtaining accouts, it looks like we want to get this 
>>
>>established  ASAP. 
>>
>>>in order to start the application program. We probably need 
>>
>> some kind 
>>
>>>of "sponsor" or "champion" to push this out on the other  
>>
>>Grids. So if 
>>
>>>there are people from other Grids (other than TG) in  this working 
>>>group, maybe you can let us know how we should approach  getting 
>>>accounts on your Grids.
>>>
>>>I would assume this applies also to the other technologies 
>>
>>from the  
>>
>>>GIN-WG, do you have a uniform project description that I can point  
>>>other Grids to as part of the application process?
>>>
>>>Gregor
>>>
>>>
>>>On Jul 25, 2006, at 4:39 AM, Erwin Laure wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>GGF18 is coming up soon. Could we please get an update on 
>>
>>the  interop 
>>
>>>>tests of SRB, SRM, and gridFTP?
>>>>
>>>>We will use this information to make an interop matrix 
>>
>>available on  
>>
>>>>the GIN gridforge pages.
>>>>
>>>>Also, we should prepare instructions of how people can run these  
>>>>tests themselves, i.e. test, whether their infrastructure is  
>>>>interoperable with others.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>-- Erwin
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 





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