[gf-chairs] Re: Getting around TIF and dining

Satoshi Matsuoka matsu at is.titech.ac.jp
Sat May 6 01:55:30 CDT 2006


Thanks Kishimoto-san.

One final note. There are zillions of restaurants to eat around the
Ginza/Yurakucho/Shibashi/Shiodome area. 

http://www.bento.com/ra-ginza.html

has a fairly good guide, including around TIF and Shiodome.

TIF has so many good and quick restaurants around esp. for lunch, I
suggest people go outside to dine.

----Shiodome info below

For folks staying @ Villa Fontaine looking for inexpensive dining, Pedi
Shiodome 2nd floor (next building), Caretta Shiodome B2F, as well as
Shiodome Center building B1F, 1F, and 2F offer a variety of food courts
and restaurants. If you dont drink alcohol expect budget of 1000-1500 yen
for a reasonable dinner. If you want to venture to the west side of
Shibashi station then there are zillions of small down-to-earth Japanese
food places, also applicable to folks staying in the Shinbashi area.

If you really want to go really economical, but want to dine Japanese,
visit the Oo-toya restaurant on the 2nd floor of the  Pedi Shiodome
building. There you could get a whole dinner menu for 700 yens or so, in
a pleasant atmosphere. Many of the office workers dine there and is very
clean. I sometimes take my family there when we need to dine quickly.
Another recommendation is Katsukura @ B2F of Caretta, where they serve
good Japanese-style pork cutlette dish for less than 1000 yens. There
are also other very good ones. Most economical restaurants have menu
pictures and/or samples outside, so you could wander around and pick &
choose easily. If they dont then chances are they are expensive.

If you want to go upscale, climb to the top floor restaurants of any of
the skyscrapers. The food and the view would be superb; expect 1000-2000
for lunch deals, but 5000-10,000 yens for dinner. I frequent the Caretta
(the red turtle) building where my favorite Japanese noodle Kaiseki
restaurant "Issa-an" is on the 46F, but others are also quite
recommended.

Of course there are also convenience stores with good bento boxes for
about 500 yens, as well as the McDonalds, Subways, and Stabucks. The
last thing you could do is to starve in the general area.

						Satoshi (M)

On Fri, 05 May 2006 22:52:30 +0900
Hiro Kishimoto <hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:

hiro.kishimoto> Hi Satoshi,
hiro.kishimoto> 
hiro.kishimoto> I upload your info (except Villa Fontainte and Chairs Appreciation
hiro.kishimoto> night) into GGF17 wiki site for convenience.
hiro.kishimoto> Anyone can add/modify any useful information on this wiki site.
hiro.kishimoto> 
hiro.kishimoto> http://testforge.ggf.org/sf/go/wiki1140
hiro.kishimoto> 
hiro.kishimoto> Thanks,
hiro.kishimoto> ----
hiro.kishimoto> Hiro Kishimoto
hiro.kishimoto> 
hiro.kishimoto> Satoshi Matsuoka wrote:
hiro.kishimoto> > Joel, everyone,
hiro.kishimoto> > 
hiro.kishimoto> > I convinced myself that I should write up an update for Japanese phones
hiro.kishimoto> > since it will be one of the biggest FAQs. You will need to post it ASAP
hiro.kishimoto> > since we may not have much time, and perhaps chairs forwarding the link
hiro.kishimoto> > as they see fit. The document is based on my experiences plus a series
hiro.kishimoto> > of message exchanges between Charlie C. and Phil. Papadopoulos @ SDSC.
hiro.kishimoto> > 
hiro.kishimoto> > 							Satoshi (M)
hiro.kishimoto> > 
hiro.kishimoto> > On Wed, 03 May 2006 11:44:15 +0900
hiro.kishimoto> > Satoshi Matsuoka <matsu at is.titech.ac.jp> wrote:
hiro.kishimoto> > 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Folks,
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Satoshi (M) here. Here is the guide on navigating around the conference
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> site. Scott may have more detailed update on my older document for GGF7,
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> much of which is still useful but does not cover the regions around TIF.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Note that some of the information are more applicable to many of the
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> GFSG members who are staying in the Shiodome (Eastern Shinbashi) area,
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> esp. the hotel Villa Fontaine. However, feel free to distribute it to
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> your colleagues as you feel fit.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Every morning except Friday, I shall be picking up folks at the lobby of
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Villa Fontaine Shiodome around 8AM.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> *** General Directions:
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> When you arrive at the NARITA airport, NEVER TAKE A TAXI, as it will
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> cost over $200 US. The definitive way to get to Tokyo - Yuurakucho -
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Shinbashi area is to use the JR Narita Express, and get off at Tokyo
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Station, and then taka a local train, a taxi, or simply walk. I also
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> recommend NOT to take a shuttle bus, since NARITA express is much more
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> convenience and wont get you stuck in the rushhour traffic.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> As it was in my older guide, Narita Express is one of the two train
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> company lines (JR and Keisei co.) that leave adjacent to each other from
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> the underground stations at the Narita airport, both Terminals 1 and 2.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> The other line is Keisei Skyliner, which is cheaper and will make more
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> sense if you are going to North of Tokyo, but not in this cae. There are
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> various local, non-express trains that are much cheaper but unless you
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> have been to Japan several times and know the Tokyo geography let's
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> leave them out unless you are adventurous.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> The first stop for the Narita Express is Tokyo Station, about a
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 50-55 minute ride. It arrives at the underground platform of Tokyo
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Station, 4 levels deep (very deep). BTW, most of the trains at Tokyo St.,
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> including the Shinkansen, leave from above ground-level platforms, so in
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> most cases you have to find your way up to make your connection.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> For details see: 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/estation/e_tokyo.html
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Narita express arrives at the Sobu line platforms shown at the bottom.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> For JR train maps
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/info/map_a4ol.pdf
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Once you get off, if you are staying at Yaesu Fujiya, find your way
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> towards the surface and walk to the hotel (outside of the top Yaesu
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Central Exit). It will be a fairly long walk from the platform (about
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 15-20 min), but you cant shortcut it much with a taxi since you will be
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> making your way cutting through a huge station, and getting to a taxi
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> stand is already a 5-10 min walk unless you know your way.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> If you are staying near Yuurakucho/Ginza, take the option 2 below.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> If you are staying near Shinbashi/Shiodome, there are two options:
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Option 1 (recommended). The Southbound JR Yokosuka line leaves from the
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> same level as the
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Narita express, and it's next stop is Shinbashi. One caveat is that
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> there are two platforms / 4 tracks, and sometimes it leaves from a track
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> on the other one so you have to climb up one level and come down again.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> This is a good strategy in any case since the # of lines of display on
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> signboard on the platform is fairly limited, whereas if you go up one
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> level there is a more comprehensive one. Or, you can ask a station
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> master walking around in their uniforms.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> At Shinbashi a few minutes later you will again arrive at a similar
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> underground platform. 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Go up the escalators, and find your way towards Shiodome; there will be
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> bunch of signs there. If it is not raining it may be easier to head to
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> the surface and look for a Skyscraper cluster and what seemingly is an
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> elevator walkway leading to them. Also, you could stick to the
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> underground corridor which also is fairly easy as there will be lots of
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> maps once you get to the corridors.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Option 2. From the Narita Express platform climb up a series of
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> escalators to arrive at one of the three main concourses. The Southbound
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Yamanote and Keihin-Tohoku lines are platforms 5 and 6 (towards
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Shinagawa). It will take about 5 mins to reach there. Hop on either of
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> them and the next stop about 800meter away is Yuurakucho, and Shinbashi
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> is a stop after that. During midday around 10:00-15:00 Keihin Tohoku
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> becomes an express and will not stop at Yuurakucho or Shinbashi. Look at
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> the electronic signboard and also the side marking on the train and if
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> it has the red express mark dont ride on that. In case you end up in
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Hamamatsucho I have already outlined below for Villa Fontaine.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> At Shinbashi, if you are heading towards Shiodome, there are two
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> staircases. Climb down the staircase with a train connection sign to
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> pink (Asakusa-line) subway and Yuri-Kamome (Skytrain) and Shiodome. If
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> you see an orange (Ginza line) it is the wrong one. Again, if it is
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> not raining, it may be easier to stay above ground by re-climing the
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> escalators to the Yuri-Kamome (skytrain) corridors then going
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> underground and possibly losing the sense of your directions (although
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> there are lots of signs, and huge number of people walking around so
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> you could ask).
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> For Dai-ichi Hotel the situation is opposite. It is fairly a short walk
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> from the Shinbashi station thru a busy shopping/nightlife district,
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> which will seem like a different world c.f. Shiodome which is clean and
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> futuristic.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> *** Villa Fontainte
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> To Akihabara from Villa Fontaine Shiodome:
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> (Notice that there are several Villa Fontaines in Tokyo. THe one where
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> people are staying at is the one in Shiodome (shee-oh-doh-meh)).
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> From the hotel exit walk to JR Shinbashi station (not raining then take
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> the  escalator  up and the Yuri-kamome skytrain corridors (passing the
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Subway sandwich stand on the way) above ground - 6 min, if raining then
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> take the escalator down and the underground passageway - 8 min). JR
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Yamanote (olive encircling commuter) or the Keihin-Tohoku (blue
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> North-South commuterline), Northbound (towards Tokyo St.), 4 stops
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Shinbashi-> Yuurakucho->Tokyo->Kanda->Akihabara. Akihabara Dai-  
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Building is right in front of the Akihabara St. The journey is 20
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> minutes tops door-to-door.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Both Yamanote and Keihin-Tohoku lines arrive at the same  
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> platform, on both sides, and thus collectively they arrive every 1-2
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> mins. There is a Starbucks both above and below ground.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Hiro indicatetes that they have a new Starbucks in Akihabara in a
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> building next to the Dai Bldg. (they  have
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> the competitor Excelisor Coffee in the Dai bldg as well as others).
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> During midday around 10AM-3PM only the Yamanote line stops at   
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Shinbashi. So, if you get on the Keihin Tohoku line at Akihabara, and it does
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> not stop at Shinbashi, dont panic. Simply get off at Hamamatsucho  
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> (the  next stop after Shinbashi), head towards the rear of the train and  
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> you  see a descending staircase. Climb down and get out of the gate
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> there, cross
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> the street right in front of you under the train tracks, turn  
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> right  then immediately left, ending up in the street that parallels the
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> train tracks to the East (train tracks to your left). Simply walk north
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> towards the skyscraper cluster parallel to the tracks for about 6-7
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> mins and you will arrive at the Villa Fontaine Shiodome.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Attached is the picture taken from South i.e., in the event that   
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> happens (BTW, Shinbashi is further North). Villa Fountaine Shiodome is
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> the bottom half of the black building you see in the center. The   
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> triangular building to the left is the Park Hotel, while the light-brown  
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> one  is the Royal Park Hotel. The picture BTW was taken from a skytrain
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> you will also see in the area (besides the JR, the subways, the monorail  
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> etc.)
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> ----
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Walking to Tokyo Int'l Forum from Villa Fontaine
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Although people should take the train from Shinbashi (130 yens) in which
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> the directions will be identical to above but just one stop, or Taxi
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> directly from Villa Fontaine (about 800 yens) if they are in a  
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> hurry, you might walk through the plush shopping area of Ginza if you
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> have time.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Take the escalator and go below ground, walk the corridor towards
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> JR Shinbashi past the Shiodome subway station. In about 200m you   
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> arrive at a underground crossing which is like a big underground square
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> surrounded by the basins of several skyscrapers. Ahead and left  
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> you  will see the large revolving door of the Shiodome Center Building
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> (which by the way 1/2 of which is Fujitsu HQ)---there are chairs, a
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> bakery "La vie de France".  If you see McDonalds or Kinkos they are
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> wrong buidings. Enter the building at the entrace where nail salon is to
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> the right and ANA travel agency  is to the left. Go up the escalators
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> for a couple of floors until you see a
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Starbucks to your left. Exit the main building gate and you will see a
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> small railroad museium (Shinbashi is where Japan's railway system
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> initiated). Take the lefthand corridor with the Center building to your
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> left and musieum to your righ for about 100ms passing an English pub
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> until you see a Porche showroom to  your  left.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Go a little past and you see a big road crossing. Up to here should be
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> less than 5 mins.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> The crossing you see is the leftmost-center big crossing on the  
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> map  (that is bit chopped off) with Ginza-Dori, and you are at the
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> left-bottom corner:
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> http://www.ginza.jp/eng/mapindex-e.html
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> You will want to proceed North thru Ginza-Dori, and enjoy the most
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> affluent shopping section in Tokyo. Eventually arbitrarily head East
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Towards the North-East corner of Yuurakucho St. where the TIF is.  
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Once you are in mid-Ginza there is no way to miss TIF as it is so   
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> visible. 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> *** Chairs Appreciation night location info. (Just walk from TIF)
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> BTW, Gon-pachi for the Chairs Appreciation night is under the highway
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> along the Ginza Sakuramachi Dori you see on the rightmost area of the
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> map, a block up from the X sign (police box) Kyobashi Br. As such it is
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> only a few hundred meters from TIF so there is no use in riding a subway
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> if you are already at TIF.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> -----------------------------------------
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> Comments and suggestions are welcome.
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu> 
hiro.kishimoto> > matsu>                     				    Satoshi (M)
hiro.kishimoto> > 
hiro.kishimoto> > 東京工業大学 学術国際情報センター 教授 松岡聡
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hiro.kishimoto> > E-mail: matsu at is.titech.ac.jp
hiro.kishimoto> > 秘書:近藤・高杉  secretary at matsulab.is.titech.ac.jp (松岡宛のメイルでCC:をお願いします)
hiro.kishimoto> 

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