[dcifp-bof] Group charter proposal

[Thijs Metsch]

Sure in Q6 you can reference to Grid and Cloud. But in the scope and
focus area it should be crystal clear and narrow focused :-)

Let's do one step following the other - we don't know yet if we will
have an API or Protocol (or maybe that existing solutions will even be
sufficient so we don't need to do anything) - so maybe reword it like
this:

After initial research the DCI Federation Protocol Working Group will
deliver an API or Protocol. It will allow automatic negotiated,
SLA-secured and dynamically provisioned federation of resources and
services in distributed environments.

BTW: DCIFP-WG is almost unpronounceable :-) maybe go for DCIFEP?

Cheers,

-Thijs

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Papaspyrou
[mailto:alexander.papaspyrou at tu-dortmund.de]
> Sent: Montag, 31. Mai 2010 17:08
> To: Thijs Metsch
> Cc: Edmonds, AndrewX; dcifp-bof at ogf.org
> Subject: Re: [dcifp-bof] Group charter proposal
> 
> Hey Thijs,
> 
> Am 31.05.2010 um 16:59 schrieb Thijs Metsch:
> 
> > Or option 3) remove references to Grid & cloud and just leave the
> > description you already have in there:
> >
> > The DCI Federation Protocol Working Group (DCIFP-WG) will deliver an
> API
> > specification for the automatically negotiated, SLA-secured,
> dynamically
> > provisioned federation of resources and. The scope of the
> specification
> > will include (1) the delegation
> > of workload from one domain into the other, covering description,
> > submission,
> > and monitoring; and (2) leasing of resources, including definition,
> > provisioning, and monitoring.
> 
> good idea, +1 from me. Alas, we will have to explicitly state (at
> least) Grid in the "who will uptake" Q6, I think.
> 
> > Second question would be: API vs Protocol???
> 
> That's also not entirely clear to me and partly the reason for making
> the bold statement of "protocols and APIs" here and there.
> 
> I think that for the "automatically negotiated" part, we will have to
> specify some kind of protocol, even if it boils down to a rather
simple
> sequence diagram. Also, I probably tend to use the term "protocol"
> loosely here: I certainly do not want to define a new Over-The-Wire
> protocol -- just thinking of "steps to take to get a delegation/lease
> done".
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Best,
> Alexander
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dcifp-bof-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:dcifp-bof-bounces at ogf.org]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Edmonds, AndrewX
> >> Sent: Mittwoch, 26. Mai 2010 19:17
> >> To: Alexander Papaspyrou; dcifp-bof at ogf.org
> >> Subject: Re: [dcifp-bof] Group charter proposal
> >>
> >> On a second read...
> >> Another aspect to consider is whether the charter should to have a
> > wide
> >> scope (cloudcomputing && gridcomputing) or narrow/focused scope
> >> (cloudcomputing || gridcomputing). My own (biased ;-)) opinion on
> this
> >> would be that a narrow and focused scope is taken.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dcifp-bof-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:dcifp-bof-bounces at ogf.org]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Edmonds, AndrewX
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:44 PM
> >> To: Alexander Papaspyrou; dcifp-bof at ogf.org
> >> Subject: Re: [dcifp-bof] Group charter proposal
> >>
> >> Hey Alexander,
> >> Great start and the charter reads very well!
> >>
> >> In the charter (Q1) it says that the WG will define a new API.
> Granted
> >> that might be an eventual necessity and outcome/output but should
it
> >> also be captured in the charter that suggested
> > extensions/modifications
> >> to the listed existing standards be developed and provided as an
> > output
> >> of the group and input to other OGF WGs? What I'm suggesting here
is
> > to
> >> avoid the recreation of existing APIs/protocols by using the new
API
> > as
> >> a proxy to them.
> >>
> >> What's described in the charter would be of interest to SLA at SOI and
> I
> >> would imagine the SLA at SOI/RESERVOIR collaboration group that is
> >> currently active (I've mailed out to that group) would have an
> > interest
> >> too.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dcifp-bof-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:dcifp-bof-bounces at ogf.org]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Alexander Papaspyrou
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:02 AM
> >> To: dcifp-bof at ogf.org
> >> Subject: [dcifp-bof] Group charter proposal
> >>
> >> Dear DCIFP participants,
> >>
> >> our stated goal for OGF30 was to form a "real" group, that is move
> > away
> >> from our current BoF status. For those not familiar with the OGF
> >> process, this requires a formal group creation request to the Grid
> >> Forum Steering Group (GFSG) and a charter describing the purpose,
> >> goals, and scope of the group, and its position within OGF and
other
> >> standardization organizations.
> >>
> >> I have written a draft charter (see below) on the basis of what
I've
> >> found from other successfully established groups and our
discussions
> > in
> >> Munich.
> >>
> >> Please review and comment!
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Alexander
> >>
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