List Status
Karl
gmkarl at gmail.com
Tue May 25 10:10:50 PDT 2021
On 5/25/21, Greg Newby <gbnewby at pglaf.org> wrote:
> Hi, Karl. The list was a bit quiet yesterday. Perhaps cpunks were outside in
> the Big Blue, or otherwise engaged. I sent a note that you should have
> received.
I found it (but never received it):
https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2021-May/087696.html
Guess it's an issue with me receiving things via gmail.
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 12:11:26PM -0400, Karl wrote:
>> Hey Greg,
>>
>> Can you confirm that people _subscribed_ to the list experience a spam
>> filter now? I thought my emails were getting spammed due to not being
>> subscribed, but it turns out this address is, actually, subscribed; I
>> was told this when I attempted subscribing.
>
> Yes, there are a few standard spam filters and related mechanisms on the
> server. This includes Spamassassin, DKIM, SPF, and DMARC. These have been in
> place since the list moved to pglaf.org a few years ago.
When you said "Any subscriber email address can post anything" at
https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2021-May/087482.html I
thought you meant that there as no spam filtering of subscribed posts.
I infer I misunderstood.
My perception of cypherpunks has been of a list where no posts are
censored, it being up to the users to filter their mails. Do you have
a memory of this?
> I have not observed any messages from you that were flagged as spam or
> rejected.
Do you receive this link to a message of mine that was rejected?
https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2021-May/087594.html
> If you are seeing other people's messages in the list archive, but not
> getting them in your inbox, the first thing to check is your Gmail Spam
> folder. If messages still don't arrive within a few minutes, send me details
> and I can check the server logs to see whether delivery was attempted and
> what happened.
I have my spam filter configured to prevent all cpunks list messages
from being spammed, so it's something else. Maybe routing delay.
Hey, did you ever receive the attached e-mail? I'm not finding it in
the list archives. It was sent on April 30th.
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Subject: Re: *SPAM* RE: Dan Kaminsky Dies from Vaccine
From: Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com>
To: Greg Newby <gbnewby at pglaf.org>
Cc: cypherpunks <cypherpunks at lists.cpunks.org>
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Greg, can you clarify whether or not the list is doing spam filtering?
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 1:49 PM lolwut <lolwut9001 at cock.li> wrote:
> Spam detection software, running on the system "mail.pglaf.org",
> has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original
> message has been attached to this so you can view it or label
> similar future email. If you have any questions, see
> the administrator of that system for details.
>
> Content preview:
>
> Content analysis details: (4.3 points, 4.0 required)
>
> pts rule name description
> ---- ----------------------
> --------------------------------------------------
> -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1%
> [score: 0.0000]
> -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record
> 1.3 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in
> bl.spamcop.net
> [Blocked - see <
> https://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?37.120.193.123>]
> 0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED RBL: ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to
> DNSWL was blocked. See
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block
> for more information.
> [37.120.193.123 listed in list.dnswl.org]
> -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2)
> [37.120.193.123 listed in wl.mailspike.net]
> 1.3 RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL RBL: Relay in Validity RPBL,
> https://senderscore.org/blocklistlookup/
> [37.120.193.123 listed in
> bl.score.senderscore.com]
> -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record
> 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not
> necessarily
> valid
> -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK
> signature
> -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from
> author's domain
> 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with
> no rDNS
> 2.8 DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX Delivered direct to MX with Outlook headers
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: lolwut <lolwut9001 at cock.li>
> To: <cypherpunks at lists.cpunks.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 13:48:29 -0400
> Subject: RE: Dan Kaminsky Dies from Vaccine
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cypherpunks [mailto:cypherpunks-bounces at lists.cpunks.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Shawn K. Quinn
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 April, 2021 9:36 PM
> To: cypherpunks at lists.cpunks.org
> Subject: Re: *SPAM* RE: DAN KAMINSKY DIES FROM VACCINE
>
> >On 4/28/21 16:50, lolwut wrote:
> >> Shawn, you should take a look at [link removed]
> >I looked at it, and it looks like the typical conspiracy theory horseshit.
>
> >COVID-19 is real, it can definitely kill you, and it is definitely "not
> just the flu". Thankfully, the pandemic (note, no "l") appears to be almost
> over.
>
> >--
> >Shawn K. Quinn <skquinn at rushpost.com>
> >http://www.rantroulette.com
> >http://www.skqrecordquest.com
>
> It's fine that you disagree, and it's fine that you call it "conspiracy
> theory horseshit", but don't be a dick and deliberately tell everyone that
> you've removed (read: censored) the link with "[link removed]" when quoting
> my previous message. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html You
> can trim out quoted sections for purposes of brevity, of course, but it's
> clear in this instance that that wasn't your aim.
> https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html In prior messages with
> Punk, I recall, you also seemed quite keen in obsessively and condescending
> "correcting" his messages when quoting him (e.g., if he wrote "jew", you
> would replace it with "[Jew]") as a cheap and easy way to look like the
> smart one. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html
>
> Even if you don't agree with the statement of the author of that page that
> the coronavirus isn't real, that isn't the entire content of the page.
> https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html I personally think that
> it
> is real, and that it can kill you, but not any more than the seasonal flu;
> and that, regardless of its actual danger, the lockdowns cannot be
> justified. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html
>
>
>
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"gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 1:49 PM lolwut <<a href=3D"mailto:lol=
wut9001 at cock.li">lolwut9001 at cock.li</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
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dding-left:1ex">Spam detection software, running on the system "<a hre=
f=3D"http://mail.pglaf.org" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"=
>mail.pglaf.org</a>",<br>
has identified this incoming email as possible spam.=C2=A0 The original<br>
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similar future email.=C2=A0 If you have any questions, see<br>
the administrator of that system for details.<br>
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Outlook headers<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From:=C2=A0lolwut &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:lolwut9001 at cock.li" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer=
">lolwut9001 at cock.li</a>><br>To:=C2=A0<<a href=3D"mailto:cypherpunks@=
lists.cpunks.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">cypherpunks at lists.cp=
unks.org</a>><br>Cc:=C2=A0<br>Bcc:=C2=A0<br>Date:=C2=A0Thu, 29 Apr 2021 =
13:48:29 -0400<br>Subject:=C2=A0RE: Dan Kaminsky Dies from Vaccine<br>-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: cypherpunks [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:cypherpunks-bounces at lists.cpunk=
s.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">cypherpunks-bounces at lists.cpunk=
s.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
Shawn K. Quinn<br>
Sent: Wednesday, 28 April, 2021 9:36 PM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:cypherpunks at lists.cpunks.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">cypherpunks at lists.cpunks.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: *SPAM* RE: DAN KAMINSKY DIES FROM VACCINE<br>
<br>
>On 4/28/21 16:50, lolwut wrote:<br>
>> Shawn, you should take a look at [link removed]<br>
>I looked at it, and it looks like the typical conspiracy theory horsesh=
it.<br>
<br>
>COVID-19 is real, it can definitely kill you, and it is definitely &quo=
t;not<br>
just the flu". Thankfully, the pandemic (note, no "l") appea=
rs to be almost<br>
over.<br>
<br>
>--<br>
>Shawn K. Quinn <<a href=3D"mailto:skquinn at rushpost.com" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noreferrer">skquinn at rushpost.com</a>><br>
><a href=3D"http://www.rantroulette.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://www.rantroulette.com</a><br>
><a href=3D"http://www.skqrecordquest.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer"=
target=3D"_blank">http://www.skqrecordquest.com</a><br>
<br>
It's fine that you disagree, and it's fine that you call it "c=
onspiracy<br>
theory horseshit", but don't be a dick and deliberately tell every=
one that<br>
you've removed (read: censored) the link with "[link removed]"=
; when quoting<br>
my previous message. <a href=3D"https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/coron=
a.html" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://digdeeper.n=
eocities.org/ghost/corona.html</a> You<br>
can trim out quoted sections for purposes of brevity, of course, but it'=
;s<br>
clear in this instance that that wasn't your aim.<br>
<a href=3D"https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/co=
rona.html</a> In prior messages with<br>
Punk, I recall, you also seemed quite keen in obsessively and condescending=
<br>
"correcting" his messages when quoting him (e.g., if he wrote &qu=
ot;jew", you<br>
would replace it with "[Jew]") as a cheap and easy way to look li=
ke the<br>
smart one. <a href=3D"https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html" re=
l=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://digdeeper.neocities.o=
rg/ghost/corona.html</a><br>
<br>
Even if you don't agree with the statement of the author of that page t=
hat<br>
the coronavirus isn't real, that isn't the entire content of the pa=
ge.<br>
<a href=3D"https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/co=
rona.html</a> I personally think that it<br>
is real, and that it can kill you, but not any more than the seasonal flu;<=
br>
and that, regardless of its actual danger, the lockdowns cannot be<br>
justified. <a href=3D"https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html" re=
l=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://digdeeper.neocities.o=
rg/ghost/corona.html</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
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