Part 2: Cryptography vs. Big Brother: How Math Became a Weapon Against Tyranny - YouTube

Zenaan Harkness zen at
Fri Oct 16 17:30:24 PDT 2020

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 09:15:32PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Oct 2020 08:40:03 +1000
> jamesd at wrote:
> > On 2020-10-17 05:13, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> > > 	What I said is not even an argument, but an observation. Govcorp gets a lot more
> > > 'value' out of cryptography than govcorp's subjects. 
> > 
> > And government gets a lot more value out of guns than its subjects get
> > out of guns.
> 	That is correct and is another instance of the same problem. Also, in the US cesspool guns is something that right-wingers who are constantly  sucking cops' dicks have. Guns in the hands of government-worshipping-fascists are yet another threat to freedom. 
> > That is a piss poor argument against guns.  We need guns, and we need
> > cryptography.
> 	like I said, these are facts, not 'arguments'. But I know, right-wingers have the g'd given right to ignore any facts that offend them.

Given how vehemently, persistently (even "religiously") that "the left" targets the removal of guns, the removal of the second amendment, it looks to some like guns ARE a thawn in the side of the empire.

It makes no sense for "regular folks" to give up their guns, just as it makes no sense for regular folks to give up their crypto (no matter how poor it is).

And again to brand us all "fascist bigots" does not sound like an argument, but sounds like an ad hom.

"Work with what you got", surely?

Our guns are under attack, so we use that attack, really -use- that attack as Judo pros (well, we might not be very professional about it :D ).

Govcorp wants to backdoor crypto by statute?  Sounds like an attack by the empire against another thorn in its other side - let's use more, not less, of that thorn.

The challenge and quantum of the problem, does not mean we ought shirk the fixing.

Yes, we -should- remain on high alert to how to maximise "the people's" use of various tools, be it guns or crypto.

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