of elephants and men, and scumbags

Zenaan Harkness zen at freedbms.net
Mon Nov 16 23:51:04 PST 2020


On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 02:00:09PM +1000, jamesd at echeque.com wrote:
> > NOW it's a total fucking waste of time to even respond to garbage like
> > this but I feel the need to point out the Khmer Rouge were empowered by
> > the US government and Pentagram, and certainly weren't "left" of anything.
> > But they ARE the goto diversionary narrative whenever schmucks like this
> > mention the alleged genocide in Vietnam that never occurred in the wake of
> > the US rout-departure
> 
> The left passionately denied the bloodbath in Cambodia as they passionately
> denied the bloodbath in Vietnam:
> 
> They only admitted to the bloodbath when Vietnam successfully invaded Cambodia
> - and only then did they blame it somehow on the Americans.
> 
> Back then when Chomsky and Herman wrote, the left, myself among them, all knew
> that something terrible was happening in Vietnam, though most now claim to
> remember otherwise. Today even Chomsky himself now remembers that no one in
> the press even suggested such a thing [12], though back then two months before
> he and Herman so indignantly complained of the failure to report the bloodbath
> as “missing”. the National Review told us [13]:
> 
> "THE BLOODBATH is motivated not so much by hatred or revenge as by the
> necessity for the Communist system to purge itself of undesirable elements
> From a Marxist viewpoint political purge is a necessity in order to achieve
> political purity, a precondition to the building of socialism. Political
> purity ensures single mindedness, which in turn achieves high efficiency. The
> Vietnamese Communists, as they showed in their conduct of the war, are
> doctrinaire single minded, efficient. But not until all Vietnamese men, women,
> and children think the Communist way will political purity be achieved for the
> new nation as a whole. This is why indoctrination (“re-education” as they call
> it) is of prime importance. For those who are too old or too stubborn to
> change elimination is the only alternative."
> 
> The crimes committed by the North Vietnamese regime against the Vietnamese
> people were smaller than the crimes committed by the Khmer Rouge against the
> Cambodians, but for us on the left they were emotionally far more significant.
> 
> When these Vietnamese crimes became known, the reaction of the left was ignore
> the facts, the details and evidence of the accusations, and attack the
> messenger, a reaction that was strikingly inconsistent with our self image as
> the conscience of the world, our image of ourselves as people who cared deeply
> about the welfare of faraway strangers. Today, most of the radical left
> comfortably remember these accusations that they so venomously and savagely
> condemned as never having been made.


Let's hope that that "something terrible" does not come to North America.

Time will tell...


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