Any Cypherpunk there ?

[Alexander Protector]

>
> > таракан <cryptoanalyzers at protonmail.com>:
> > It can be argued that only 'criminals' should care about changing their
> identity but if you are targeted by a fascist regime, getting a new ID is a
> question of life and death.
>
Totally agree.

 > Imagine a real fascist power taking control of the entire planet
It has ALREADY happened.


> > how much time they need to seek and destroy opponents or individuals
> listed as potential dangers? maybe just one hour...
>
We are lucky only in that 'they' themselves (members of the fascist power)
hate each other and devour each other. And already now (you need
examples??), they destroy every REALLY threatening their power persons
(ideologically / psychologically / socially = reputation, etc.).


таракан <cryptoanalyzers at protonmail.com>:

> My understanding of cypherpunks is that they are/were a group of people
> trying to defeat evil things such as, indeed, Clearview and using their
> deep knowledge of cryptography to counter the use of digital technologies
> by a fascist power (imagine the Third Reich equipped with computers...)
>
> Tracking/Controlling people isn't really knew but let us say there was
> always ... ways to escape... to find another land, another ID, where there
> was no question.
>
> Think about the fictional character of Jean Valjean in "Les
> Misérables"(the book by Victor Hugo) ...
> As a convict he wore a mark on the arm, identifying him and had his
> infamous condition as a former *forcat* noted in his passport. This
> doesn't prevented him to become a notable, a rich entrepreuneur named
> Monsieur Madeleine.
>
> The action is at the beginning of the XIX century in Post-revolutionary
> France.
>
> Now imagine the same man in ... 2020... an escaped forcat... how can he
> live?, how can he change his identity? How can he transfer funds?  Anything
> he will do, any move he will make will be noticed, tracked, recorded. The
> law enforcement will look at him everywhere , in all possible databases and
> if he wants to have a new French passport "the hard way", he shall have to
> tamper protected memory and insert false the records inside a biometric
> passport, which is extremely difficult. Corruption and social enginering
> may not work any more and making fake French passport should involve deep
> knowledge of cryptography...
>
> Who can do this? Only Cypherpunks.
>
> It can be argued that only 'criminals' should care about changing their
> identity but if you are targeted by a fascist regime, getting a new ID is a
> question of life and death.
>
>  yet to my understanding, escaping and defeating the net which is building
> itself, making the world as a gigantic jail, should be the mission of
> cypherpunks, or to whatever organization that would succeed to them.
>
> Imagine a *real* fascist power taking control of the entire planet , how
> much time they need to seek and destroy opponents or individuals listed as
> potential dangers? *maybe just one hour*...
>
>
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