Whether To Design Open Source Public Records Equipment

Karl gmkarl at gmail.com
Thu Jun 11 01:13:31 PDT 2020

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 7:28 PM Punk-Stasi 2.0 <punks at tfwno.gf> wrote:

> I think I understand that you know surveillance is stimulating severe
> danger these days, and that you are very, very concerned around the idea
> us building recording devices.

        No, what 'concerns me' is the faulty reasoning.

You're frustrated, needing trust around your reasoning, and honesty around

> I'm not being clear.  I think I've been upsetting you too, something I do
> > not want to do.  I'm a little crestfallen over the difficulty
> communicating.
>         don't worry about upsetting me.

Sounds like you've been through some situations involving very intense
upsetness, and have skills there.

As far as communication goes though it seems you're ignorning my overall
> comments on 'technology' and political power. Anyway, I won't repeat them
> again. At least today...

It sounds like I have not heard or understood them.  Are you able to repeat
them in a message that is clear and concise without extra discussion?  I'm
trying to draw bounds around what kinds of recording you are scared of, and

It seems obvious to me that records held by an individual and their friends
is not surveillance, and that in general, surveillance is only harmful when
used by a powerful entity rather than a weak one.

I see the people here as working to help, and worry their work could be
hindered handling volatile discussions.
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