Assange Superseding Indictment
Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0
punks at tfwno.gf
Wed Jul 1 14:19:41 PDT 2020
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 19:05:50 -0700
Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> wrote:
> On 06/30/2020 06:34 PM, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> > On Wed, 01 Jul 2020 00:52:49 +0000
> >
> > certain kinds of heinous criminals forfeit their rights. Government criminals for instance.
>
> Sure, but "criminal" is such an ambivalent term. As they say, it depends
> on whose ox is getting gored.
I can rephrase and avoid moral terms :
if governmetn agents spy, steal, torture, kill and the like they can't then object when they are treated in the same way.
> > take for instance cops and soldiers, who are nothing but govcorp's hitmen. Those people can't complain if they are exterminated like they deserve to be.
>
> I generally agree, although I'm not so bloodthirsty about it ;)
well strictly speaking they should be given the chance to surrender and pay for the damage they caused. And if they don't...
>
> As I see it, privacy rights are inversely proportional to power over
> others. So even if governments are necessary, which is questionable at
> best, nothing about them ought to be private. Because openness is a
> prerequisite for public oversight. And because despotism is totally
> inevitable without public oversight.
>
Agreed. No privacy for government agents seems fair to me. If they don't like it, they can get a honest job.
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