Could someone add news of Cypherpunks Archive forgery to the Talk page of the Wikipedia Cypherpunks Article? +Journalists

[Punk-Stasi 2.0]

On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 19:58:03 +0000 (UTC)
jim bell <jdb10987 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>  On Tuesday, November 12, 2019, 11:14:35 AM PST, Punk-Stasi 2.0 <punks at tfwno.gf> wrote:
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>  On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 03:07:30 -0500
> grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On 11/12/19, Punk-Stasi 2.0 <punks at tfwno.gf> wrote:
> > >     maybe watch this video?
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> > >>     he mentions AP as part of the 'bad politics' of the list...
> > 
> >> Such words could perhaps be throwing FUD at both free speech
> >> and at different new ideas and change for the world. To be fair,
> >> the context should be reviewed.
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> >    the 'context' is linked. He flatly states there were 'bad politics' in teh cpunks list and AP was one example of it. 
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> While I cannot be expected to be unbiased, I have long thought and said that anybody who claims to "oppose AP" should be asked to explain what he means by that.  A person who can say, with a straight face, that he likes everything about today's world can be expected to oppose AP.  He thinks no solution is necessary, including AP.  But I think many people who very much don't like the world also say they oppose AP.   

	regardless of implementation details, opposition to tyranicide is a good test to detect government agents or other accomplices of tyranny. As a matter of fact we have government agents like this lackey scumbag and agent tazer, aka rayzer, aka g2s at riseup.net nicely illustrating the point. 


> Okay, what is their alternative?   Do they think they have some sort of 'magic solution' to fix what I claim AP will fix?  All militaries?  Nuclear weapons?  All war?
> Abouty 250 million people were killed in the 20th century alone, by government.  See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide  But the guy who proposed that term, Rummell, inexplicably omits killings caused by war, 


	he ommits all the mass murders, war crimes, slavery etc done by americunts like himself. And that's because rummell is yet another pentagon propaganda bot posing as 'liberal'. 

 
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> >> >     "I ran one of the first mailing archives for this...which became really
> >> > interesting legally later" (whatever that means...)
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> >> And if his archive is shown via comparison with other archives
> >> to have holes in it...
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>  >   That has already been done...Furthermore, so far, 'his' archive is The Only Archive...
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> This means, I think, that he has a special responsibility to find the problem and expose it.   How he reacts to this, will tell us much.


	I just listened to the whole talk. He claims he got the archive from Hugh Daniel and says he 'lost' part of it. He also says 

	"AP probably the most inherently negative thing on the list" 
	"normal ppl would think this is a bad idea"
	"there were some fairly non-normal ppl that were attracted to this - one of them Jim Bell" "I think [he was] mentally a little bit unhinged". etc

	scumbag lackey then says he was asked to testify in some of the 'trials' conducted by americunt kangaroo courts against Jim. 

	oh and according to agent lackey, this list is a 'non-entity' whereas metzger fascist clown's list is 'very popular'. 

 
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> >> were they perhaps caused by [extra]legal
> >> interactions? Volunteership? Bias? Something completely
> >> mundane and innocent?
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> >    it's technically possible that it's just 'coincidence' and that the 5 missing months were accidentally lost. Still, who in his sane mind would 'trust' a source like lackey? Fuck, even his surname is a joke.
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> One of the problems with allowing people to simply "volunteer" is that betrayers can "volunteer" themselves into a position of control.  Like Steven Walsh, acting under the phony name "Steve Wilson", did in the MCCLC (Multnomah County Common Law Court) in 1996.  He actually induced a trial that the Feds later complained about.   Isn't that called "agent provocateur"?
>             Jim Bell
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