Juggalos Joining Libertarians, Mental Sovereignty vs Programming, Burning Miracles

Douglas Lucas dal at riseup.net
Sun Apr 22 22:21:43 PDT 2018

I hate Ayn Rand but this frequently cited fact -- that she took social
security payments -- is often cited to allegedly prove her hypocrisy. But
her argument was, the government stole from her, so she was justified in
recouping some of the stolen money by filling out the paperwork etc. Her
logic makes sense to me given her ideas so I don't think it was
hypocritical, even if wrong.

Also more broadly, should outgroups steal from one another?  The best
argument I see in favor is they are dangerous outgroups, so harm them to
protect you and yours. The best argument I see against is the more one
interacts with someone (even to inflict damage), the more one (if one is
goodhearted? prosocial?) starts to empathize with that individual and
wants to help them recondition rather than continue to harm. Thoughts?

To tie it into cypherpunks just use as examples warring factions/tribes in
the hacktivism/transparency landscape.

> -------- Original message --------From: juan <juan.g71 at gmail.com> Date:
> 4/20/18  1:22 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks at lists.cpunks.org Subject:
> Re: Juggalos Joining Libertarians, Mental Sovereignty vs
>   Programming,  Burning Miracles
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 12:51:11 -0700
> Razer <g2s at riseup.net> wrote:
>> Juggalos Joining Libertarians... Good. This WILL destroy the racist
>> fascist US entity called "Libertarians".
>> Just a reminder that Ayn Rand was a nasty little cunt racist who died
>> on welfare.
>>> the bit about welfare sounds bogus. Unless she spent all the copyright
>>> money on amphetamines? which seems kinda unlikely...
> She left an inheritance and didn't die broke because she took SSI money
> (not retirement money... non-paycheck workers can, but typically don't,
> pay into the SS system... so yeah, welfare) and Medicare to pay for her
> medical bills, or she would have.
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand
> Rr

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