Why Cypherpunks Shouldn't Vote for the system of their own oppression

[juan]

On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 21:08:09 +0300
Cari Machet <carimachet at gmail.com> wrote:

> Switzerland has a degree of direct democracy ... they vote on the
> budget
> 
> No state system could satisfy anything i desire for too many reasons
> but i just want others to understand there is a long standing >
> 1700's > system that develops forms of direct democracy
> 
> Not all anarchists think dd is anarchy but that just means they dont
> understand its conceptual history
> 
> Maybe they dont understand anarchy at all really


	It should be noted that not only switzerland is a nation
	state(...), it's the poster child for western corporatism.

	switzerland GDP per capita is us$ 80k, that is the second
	highest in the world, after luxembourg (which is nothing but the
	capital of the world banking mafia)




> 
> Assange has said he is a libertarian wonder if he still after all
> these embassy prison years thinks its viable esp now with no
> intertubes in prison
> 
> On Oct 24, 2016 8:51 PM, "jim bell" <jdb10987 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > *From:* Razer <rayzer at riseup.net>
> > The issue I'm having reading this thread about the US Erections is
> > this list is ostensibly Anarchist and I don't understand why it's
> > infested almost exclusively by Libertarians. Libertarians CANNOT be
> > Anarchist ... because they believe in government. Small, but they
> > BELIEVE that the US political system actually works in the interest
> > of the people, or it can be made so.
> >
> > Not exactly, There are "anarchist libertarians" and "minarchist
> > libertarians".  I was one of the latter, before 1995 when I
> > discovered/invented my AP system.   Afterwards, I realized not only
> > that having no government was possible, it was essentially
> > inevitable.
> >
> > Note:  It is, strictly speaking, incorrect to say:  "Libertarians
> > CANNOT be Anarchist ...because they believe in government."
> > Libertarians believe in a certain set of limits to people's
> > relationships and interactions with other people.  A Libertarian
> > may believe that a small government is tolerable, and maybe still
> > necessary; other libertarians may believe that a stable anarchy is
> > possible.  (As I now do.)
> >
> >            Jim Bell
> >