Why Cypherpunks Shouldn't Vote for the system of their own oppression

Cari Machet carimachet at gmail.com
Mon Oct 24 11:08:09 PDT 2016


Switzerland has a degree of direct democracy ... they vote on the budget

No state system could satisfy anything i desire for too many reasons but i
just want others to understand there is a long standing > 1700's > system
that develops forms of direct democracy

Not all anarchists think dd is anarchy but that just means they dont
understand its conceptual history

Maybe they dont understand anarchy at all really

Assange has said he is a libertarian wonder if he still after all these
embassy prison years thinks its viable esp now with no intertubes in prison

On Oct 24, 2016 8:51 PM, "jim bell" <jdb10987 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> *From:* Razer <rayzer at riseup.net>
> The issue I'm having reading this thread about the US Erections is this
> list is ostensibly Anarchist and I don't understand why it's infested
> almost exclusively by Libertarians. Libertarians CANNOT be Anarchist ...
> because they believe in government. Small, but they BELIEVE that the US
> political system actually works in the interest of the people, or it can
> be made so.
>
> Not exactly, There are "anarchist libertarians" and "minarchist
> libertarians".  I was one of the latter, before 1995 when I
> discovered/invented my AP system.   Afterwards, I realized not only that
> having no government was possible, it was essentially inevitable.
>
> Note:  It is, strictly speaking, incorrect to say:  "Libertarians CANNOT
> be Anarchist ...because they believe in government."
> Libertarians believe in a certain set of limits to people's relationships
> and interactions with other people.  A Libertarian may believe that a small
> government is tolerable, and maybe still necessary; other libertarians may
> believe that a stable anarchy is possible.  (As I now do.)
>
>            Jim Bell
>
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