What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

Razer rayzer at riseup.net
Mon Nov 21 19:25:47 PST 2016



On 11/21/2016 02:39 PM, juan wrote:

> Fascism is cooperation of 'private' industry and government. A
> 	phenomenom that is obviously rampant in the US.
> 	
> 	Other main components of fascism are nationalism and
> 	militarism. Obviously rampant in the US too.

Another component. Traditionalism. In my estimation "American
Exceptionalism" is based on that, and the belief in "Manifest Destiny"
... in other words, the rationalization for expropriation of OPP (other
people's property) follows

Rr



> Steve:
>>> Libertarian ideology relies heavily on false context. 
> Jim:
>> Chuckle.  Vague.
>
>
> 	It should be noted that Steve is mostly taking the libertarian
> 	side of the argument although he talks as if he were not, while
> 	Jim seems to be defending the american fascist status quo, and
> 	pretending that this fascist-corporatist-mercantilist status quo
> 	is somehow 'libertarian'.
>
> 	Perhaps the problem is that somebody struck Jim's head with an
> 	ayn randroid book in the past...		
>
>
>
>
>> Hardy har har!  Get off it!  "Fascism", as I have always understood
>> it, is GOVERNMENT CONTROL of the means of production.
>
> 	Fascism is cooperation of 'private' industry and government. A
> 	phenomenom that is obviously rampant in the US.
> 	
> 	Other main components of fascism are nationalism and
> 	militarism. Obviously rampant in the US too.
>
> 	A police state is also a nice touch. I think the US has a
> 	wold-wide, cyber police state plus highest incarceration rate
> 	in the world? et cetera.
>
>
>
>>  (Communism is
>> government ownership of the means of production).   Libertarianism is
>> PRIVATE ownership and control of the means of production.  What
>> word-games are you playing to come to a different conclusion?
>>
> 	In short, what's your name for the economic system of the US
> 	and the rest of the 'first' world? Or even most of the rest of
> 	the world.
>
>
>

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