On 11/21/2016 02:39 PM, juan wrote:

Fascism is cooperation of 'private' industry and government. A
        phenomenom that is obviously rampant in the US.

        Other main components of fascism are nationalism and
        militarism. Obviously rampant in the US too.

   Another component. Traditionalism. In my estimation "American
   Exceptionalism" is based on that, and the belief in "Manifest Destiny"
   ... in other words, the rationalization for expropriation of OPP (other
   people's property) follows
   Rr

Steve:

Libertarian ideology relies heavily on false context.

Jim:

Chuckle.  Vague.



        It should be noted that Steve is mostly taking the libertarian
        side of the argument although he talks as if he were not, while
        Jim seems to be defending the american fascist status quo, and
        pretending that this fascist-corporatist-mercantilist status quo
        is somehow 'libertarian'.

        Perhaps the problem is that somebody struck Jim's head with an
        ayn randroid book in the past...





Hardy har har!  Get off it!  "Fascism", as I have always understood
it, is GOVERNMENT CONTROL of the means of production.


        Fascism is cooperation of 'private' industry and government. A
        phenomenom that is obviously rampant in the US.

        Other main components of fascism are nationalism and
        militarism. Obviously rampant in the US too.

        A police state is also a nice touch. I think the US has a
        wold-wide, cyber police state plus highest incarceration rate
        in the world? et cetera.




 (Communism is
government ownership of the means of production).   Libertarianism is
PRIVATE ownership and control of the means of production.  What
word-games are you playing to come to a different conclusion?


        In short, what's your name for the economic system of the US
        and the rest of the 'first' world? Or even most of the rest of
        the world.