oil supply sigint

[John Newman]

> On Dec 15, 2016, at 2:56 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 2:37 PM, juan <juan.g71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>        ...waste being a serious, unsolved problem?
> 
> Halflife is a bitch. But unlike all the other shit we pump into
> the air / water, nuke waste localized, and all of it forever could
> be stored on perhaps a 250 sq km or so reservation.
> As with all of nuke, its problems are not technical
> but are political, regulation, secrecy, ignorance.
> 
>> http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/03/20/suntech-bankruptcy/2002429/
> 
>>        I don't thinkt it's their moeny. It's the money they get
>>        through subsidies. But just in case I get accused
>>        of...something. Oil is heavily subsidized too.
> 
> Subsidy / redistribution should probably not be used to
> prop up dumb legacy shit that's already been done and
> has questionable future. If stuck with subsidy, better it
> be for something better.
> 
>>        Like suntech?
> 
> Sure. And the article seems clear they overfinanced, overfabbed
> and overproduced into miscalculated demand, among other things,
> and killed themselves. Their problem. Not a problem with solar.
> Solar installs and installed base are growing globally, see the
> previous links.
> 
>> Anyway, the underlying problem is that there's
>> no real market for energy. The current energy 'market' being a
>> poster child for crony capitalism, including the 'hight tech'
> 
> Certainly no real consumer level market.
> Other than consumers with solar on their roofs competing with
> their electric company. There's no real multiple overlay n-mile
> energy delivery infrastructure to the end user premise. But there
> is some legit sell / buy / deliver on the supply side the closer
> you get to production point.


When you can build a new home with solar panels all over it and tesla battery arrays in the basement to keep you going at night, it's just possible to get to the point where you receive a check from the utility company every month, rather than a bill ....

I think, and hope, this is the future of power in homes. 


John