Allegedly Volkswagen cheated to both governments and lusers

[Tom]

Hi,

in germany this is at least known since 2007:

http://m.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/a-1054926.html (german
source, sorry) and the auto industry is being covered by the german
government(*). The government does even lobby in the EU against stronger
norms in vafour of german auto industry since years.

So, if you ask me, it is implausible that eh EPA found out about this
only recently. IMHO they knew it all the time. Now there has been "that
call" from D.C. ordering them to open the box. Why now? I don't know,
but maybe looking east and south from germany may help...


*) this means, at least in germany they didn't cheat. The government
did in effect.



- Tom

PS: oh, and it's now VW only, it's all of them.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 02:21:42PM +0300, Georgi Guninski wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:00:52PM +0100, Cathal (Phone) wrote:
> > I gather it was discovered when a trade association was setting out to show off how awesome and clean modern diesels were, and did their own tests on actual road driving unlike the EPA. They discovered how shit the pollution really was and decided to report it.
> > 
> 
> I don't follow this news actively. What is source for this?
> 
> I suppose the people who reported this were not FV (and likely not
> German).
> 
> But why they did the tests so lately?
> 
> Is EPA so corrupt to not see a trivial backdoor?
> 
> 
> > Which, if that's accurate, really reaffirms my faith in some of humanity, because it was actively against their interests to do so?
> 
> Well, I trust _some_ humanity, but as a whole modern society is quite
> untrustworthy IMHO.
> 
> 
> >