Email tapping by ISPs, forwarder addresses, and crypto proxies

Eugen Leitl eugen at
Wed Jul 21 07:56:43 PDT 2004

On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 10:20:36AM -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:

> Yes, but I think it's fairly clear that if one needs to dissasemble the
> OC-Ns in the field, you simply need too much gear. It's going to be far

It's clearly not viable to process much underwater. How much machine room
square meters do you need at those cable landings, though?

> easier to grab whole swathes of it and ship it back to Montana or wherever
> for it to be sifted through later.

There is no "later", there's only "elsewhere". Traffic filtering is an
embarrassingly parallel problem.

It's the data mining that needs to integrate and correlate. Here is your
centralized bottleneck.

How many .gov in ? Data mining is different
from Linpack.

> What they probably do, however, is grab specific DS1s/3s locall and switch
> those via CALEA back to optical access points, where all of this stuff is
> pulled together into OC-192s or (very soon) OC-768s. As Variola suggests,
> once you get it back then you can plow through it at your leisure. Got a
> disident you want to shut down? "Surely he's said SOMETHING over the last 2
> years that you could incriminate him on....find it, dammit!"

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