<nettime> PlayFair > Sarovar

[Bob Jonkman]

That seemed short-lived.  Both links to the Playfair project at Sarovar are dead: 
http://sarovar.org/projects/playfair/ and http://playfair.sarovar.org/  The search 
function doesn't come up with anything either...

Has there been any further news on this?

--Bob.



This is what R. A. Hettinga <rah at shipwright.com> said
about "<nettime> PlayFair  > Sarovar" on 12 Apr 2004 at 13:42

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> From: kevin lahoda <up at treerunner.com>
> Subject: <nettime> PlayFair  > Sarovar
> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 14:51:11 -0400
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> Sarovar.org is India's first portal to host projects under Free/Open
> source licenses. It is located in Trivandrum, India and hosted at
> Asianet data center. Sarovar.org is customised, installed and
> maintained by Linuxense as part of their community services and
> sponsored by River Valley Technologies.
> 
>  From Sarovar's < http://sarovar.org/ > Latest News: "After a short
> "vacation" thanks to a Cease and Desist letter from Apple, we're back
> online. Many thanks to Sarovar for hosting us..  -PlayFair "
> 
> Sarovar now hosts The PlayFair project < http://playfair.sarovar.org/
> > which SourceForge has declined in order to avoid tangling with
> Apple's decision to go DMCA on their ass <
> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/09/1554203 >. Like something
> from a Gibson novel, I wouldn't doubt if Sarovar rises to meet more
> than another of these occasions in the near future.
> 
> And so, we have more contentious open source code hosted outside of
> the US in order to circumvent unfavorable legal processes.
> 
> Offtshoring in itself is not all that new (another example: <
> http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/provos/honeyd/ >). Here is how this one
> gets interesting:  A big guy - Apple, goes a little sour, another
> (kind of) big guy - SourceForge, takes the easy route, and then an
> offshore repository stands in.
> 
> With all of this, one thing that should not be ignored is that
> SourceForge should be shamed for not holding itself stronger. In a way
> SourceForge's decline of PlayFair and non-usage of the Safe Harbor
> Provision Act < http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512/ > is an admit
> of defeat and a failure to stand up for one's (community's) rights.
> 
> What comes out of this?
> 
> Well, maybe Apple wins because they avoid a chance of being tarnished.
> Imagine what consumer level acknowledgment of the reality of Apple
> marketing a clean yet gritty 'Garage Band' motif (with all that punk
> rock implies) while at the same time sleeping with DRM, recently RIAA,
> and now DMCA, could entail... One can easily see that Apple is dancing
> itself into a bit of a gamble. But then again, what does an Ipod
> zombie care about these acronyms anyway?
> 
> What does SourceForge get? Not much. This only makes it easier for
> them to weasle out of the next situation that comes up. Not to mention
> they also missed a good chance to join PlayFair in telling Apple
> what's what.
> 
> k
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> http://sarovar.org/ http://sarovar.org/projects/playfair/
> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/09/1554203
> http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512/
> http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/provos/honeyd/
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> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/09/playfair_dmca_takedown/
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