Singers jailed for lyrics

[Tyler Durden]

"Neither is the United States, of course, where US citizens are free to join 
the
Israeli army, and commit atrocities in the illegally occupied territories, 
but
face prison for "terrorism" if they support the oppressed Palestinians and 
play
paintball with their friends on weekends."

No real argument here.

Moreover, if I "support" (even if only verbally) Palestinian control over 
Israel, I'm "Anti Semitic" even though the Palestinians are semites, and the 
Ashkenazi only marginally semitic (they LOOK awfully European to me).*

However, I doubt I'll go to jail...now. If Bush gets re-elected, then who 
knows.

As for Germany, for me at least the same government that's forbidding 
swastikas today in an effort to eliminate "hate" may one day utilize that 
same power to warp & weave official history (like in Japan and their antics 
in China from 37 to 45), and all of a sudden everyone is seeing terrorists 
everywhere who are trying to "steal our freedoms", rather than understanding 
that if 10 men with families gave their lives to kill 3000 of us, it's at 
least fair to say that they're rather upset about SOMETHING...

At the same time, remember that the Holocaust happened in Germany. And if 
you were German and realized that your own father was at least partially 
responsible for baking hundreds of Jews, well...let's just say that would 
probably weird you out a bit.

-TD

* I'd note that some of the most outspoken "Anti semites" in this category 
happen to be Jewish: Bobby Fisher, Noam Chomsky, Michael Albert and others.




>From: Eric Cordian <emc at artifact.psychedelic.net>
>To: cypherpunks at minder.net
>Subject: Re: Singers jailed for lyrics
>Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:19:27 -0800 (PST)
>
>Tyler Durden wrote:
>
> > Yes...because we Americans have only had one government, we tend to 
>equate
> > "legality" with morality, and then assume the discussion is over. No 
>doubt
> > that causes us to look at laws "over there" as being far more important 
>than
> > they really are...at least some times.
>
>The laws "over there" would only lack importance if they were universally 
>ignored.
>
>But they aren't ignored, and they ruin peoples lives, and deprive them of 
>freedom
>and property everytime someone in some protected class claims to have been 
>offended.
>
>When a Jew in Germany gives material support to Israel's reign of terror 
>against the
>Palestinian people, and someone criticizes it, German law puts the person 
>criticizing
>it in jail because he made the Jew feel bad.
>
>A civilized country would put the Beanie-Headed Land Grabber in jail, and 
>give the
>critic a medal.
>
>Germany is not a civilized country.
>
>Neither is the United States, of course, where US citizens are free to join 
>the
>Israeli army, and commit atrocities in the illegally occupied territories, 
>but
>face prison for "terrorism" if they support the oppressed Palestinians and 
>play
>paintball with their friends on weekends.
>
>Naziism is National Socialism.  Neoconservatism is National Capitalism.
>
>--
>Eric Michael Cordian 0+
>O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division
>"Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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