Quarantines may be justified

Sarad AV jtrjtrjtr2001 at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 29 22:07:41 PDT 2003


hi,

Quarterniting people with SARS is logical to the
people who has no SARA and illogical by those who have
SARS.Since most people don't suffer from
sars,quarteniting the infected is justifiable to
them.If theree fourth of congressmen in US smoked
-smoking will be encouraged :-)Its the majority and
their power that defines justification,they can always
justify almost any thing.

Regards Sarath.

--- Harmon Seaver <hseaver at cybershamanix.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 09:17:37PM -0400, stuart
> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, Jim came up with
> this...
> > 
> > JC> On Sat, 19 Apr 2003, stuart wrote:
> > >> Smoking in public, that's an easy one to pick
> on. But the argument
> > >> holds no water, unfortunately. Find me
> RELIABLE, UNBIASED evidence that
> > >> second-hand smoke is actually dangerous, and
> I'll agree to ban smoking.
> > 
> > JC> Bullshit line of reasoning (actually your
> whole line is pretty much tits
> > JC> up but why waste precious time). It's not a
> matter of 'proof'. It -is- a
> > JC> matter of interfering with others. Note they
> are not saying you can't
> > JC> smoke, they -are- saying that you can't make
> them smoke along with you.
> > JC> There is this concept called 'consent'. You
> seem to be missing it.
> > 
> > JC> You can do what you want until it interferes
> with what another wants. If
> > JC> they want to breath unpolluted air and drink
> clean water then there is
> > JC> nothing that gives you the right to pollute
> either outside of -your-
> > JC> immediate vicinity.
> > 
> > There is a line, that line is harm, not
> discomfort. My argument is that
> > there are many things that cause discomfort,
> that's life, tough shit.
> > If smoking actually caused harm to people near a
> smoker, I wouldn't
> > protest any of these bans. But nobody has been
> able to prove it does.
> > I know exactly what consent is. I don't consent to
> the kid next to me in
> > my OS class who doesn't know what deodorant is
> stinking the room up, but
> > it doesn't cause me any harm so the law has no
> right to impose speed
> > stick on him.
> > 
> > People aren't permitted to blast music in the
> middle of the night
> 
>    Or in the middle of the day, for that matter.
> Anyone who's car stereo can be
> heard outside the car should be arrested. I like the
> way they do that in New
> Zealand, the fine is progressive, third offense they
> confiscate the car. They
> should do the same with houses. 
> 
> 
> > because it prevents other people from sleeping,
> which causes harm.
> > When smoking is banned in places, it removes the
> RIGHT of the owner of
> > that place to permit or prohibit a legal activity
> within their domain.
> > Without those laws the owner could permit smoking,
> and patrons could
> > then CONSENT to go to that place, or go somewhere
> else, where the owner
> > has prohibited smoking. So yeah, I know what
> consent is, do you know
> > what private property is?
> 
>    I wasn't talking at all about private property, I
> was talking about public
> space. If only giving discomfort is okay, how about
> if I dump a bucket of cold
> water on every smoker I meet on the street? 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Harmon Seaver	
> CyberShamanix
> http://www.cybershamanix.com
> 


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