ORBS sucked into a black hole!

[Declan McCullagh]

Typically, you misunderstand a vigorous defense of someone's right to 
publish certain information with endorsement of the information published. 
Also typically, in a Choatian sense, you erroneously conflate speech with 
action.

The rest is blather and not worth responding to.

-Declan

At 07:37 AM 6/13/01 -0500, measl at mfn.org wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>
> > > > ORBS/MAPS/etc. "participate" by connecting to and reviewing sites,
> > > > much like I go out to and watch movies to review.
> > >
> > > Not always.  If you refused to have your site "reviewed", then they would
> > > literally make one up.
> >
> > Huh? If theyr'e checking to see if you're running an open relay or
> > harboring spammers, both can be verified ("reviewed") without too much
> > effort.
>
>No.  Assuming that ORBS servers were blocked at the edge (as is the case
>here), they have absolutely no way to test for open relays (not that it
>would do any good here, as we don't have any).  If ORBS probes are
>blocked, ORBS will literally _invent_ the review of "open relay", and
>apply it to the "movie" (domain) they never had access to "see".
>
>There is another dark side to ORBS which seems to be missed here:  Most
>people's primary complaint about spammers is that they (the spammer) is
>making use of network services at someone elses expense, without
>permission of the spamee.  ORBS is guilty of the EXACT same "crime" - but,
>the ORBS is Politically Correct, so nobody seems to mind...
>
>Hypocrisy in action, eh?
>
> > > Good riddance to bad trash.  Now that ORBS is dead, when are you going to
> > > follow their fine example Declan?
> >
> > Amusing. Last time I got a veiled death threat was when I wrote about
> > UFOs.
>
>You flatter yourself *way* too much Declan - I know of nobody who would
>waste a cartridge on your useless ass.
>
> > -Declan
> >
>
>--
>Yours,
>J.A. Terranson
>sysadmin at mfn.org
>
>If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
>should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
>Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
>unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
>the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and
>elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
>populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
>This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
>as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
>
>The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
>associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
>those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
>first place...
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