Fw: [Ne-anarchists-d] Re: FBI is investigating an alleged "Black Bloc" threat sent toPolitech (fwd)

[Jim Choate]

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 18:01:11 -0400
From: Any Mouse
Subject: Fw: [Ne-anarchists-d] Re: FBI is investigating an alleged "Black Bloc" threat sent toPolitech

Chuck's response below...

By the way the Black Bloc is a tactic of demonstration, not a "group".  If I may
use a very loose analogy it's like saying that cypherpunks are all about PGP
encrypted emails.  The work that Chuck and other anarchists are doing in the
area goes beyond Black Bloc and, yes, it does include Black Bloc when
appropriate.  There are active discussions about the possible mis-use or abuse
of Black Bloc tactics in several large scale and highly visible incidences (such
as the anti-globalization protests) that are due in large to the explosive
growth of visibility for the tactics without the necessary education and
organization.

An effective Black Bloc has an effective and clearly defined message/slogan,
same w/ goal, and a visible restraint mechanism.  It's a sledge hammer against a
door not a molotov cocktail thrown anonymously into a crowd.

But I'm just a fly on the wall making some observations and can't by any means
consider myself a scholar on the topic...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck0" <chuck at tao.ca>
To: "Declan McCullagh" <declan at well.com>
Cc: <politech at politechbot.com>; <aaronl at cato.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 3:28 PM
Subject: [Ne-anarchists-d] Re: FBI is investigating an alleged "Black Bloc"
threat sent toPolitech


> Declan McCullagh wrote:
> >
> > The FBI is investigating an alleged threat against the Cato Institute, the
> > world's leading free-market think tank, sent to Politech.
> >
> > Chuck0 <chuck at tao.ca> sent a message to Politech that I forwarded -- as
> > part of an ongoing discussion about privacy and globalization -- on Monday:
> > http://www.politechbot.com/p-02214.html
> >
> > The message said: "Cato's little insult of the black bloc means that we'll
> > be paying Cato HQ a visit this coming September. People who work in glass
> > buildings shouldn't throw the first rhetorical stones."
>
> It's interesting that so-called "libertarians" would run to the FBI when they
> can't take a joke. My response to Declan McCullagh concerning Aaron Lukas'
> article, a journalist whose work I respect and read on a regular basis, was
> meant for Declan's eyes only, not the entirety of the Politech list.
>
> My comment about the "black bloc means that we'll be paying Cato HQ a visit
this
> coming September" didn't say anything about what the black bloc would do once
it
> reached Cato. It's not like I can tell the black bloc what to do. I they chose
> to do this, perhaps they would consense to smoking some weed with the
> Libertarians, since we do see eye to eye on drug policy. Of course, there are
> many things we don't see eye to eye on, including free markets, free trade,
and
> running to the FBI when we can't take a joke.
>
> << Chuck0 >>
>
> Infoshop.org    -> http://www.infoshop.org/
> Alternative Press Review -> http://www.altpr.org/
> Practical Anarchy Online -> http://www.practicalanarchy.org/
> Homepage -> http://flag.blackened.net/chuck0/home/
>
> INTERNATIONALISM IN PRACTICE
>
> An American soldier in a hospital explained how he was wounded: He said, "I
was
> told that the way to tell a hostile Vietnamese from a friendly Vietnamese was
to
> shout 'To hell with Ho Chi Minh!' If he shoots, he's unfriendly. So I saw this
> dude and yelled 'To hell with Ho Chi Minh!' and he yelled back, 'To hell with
> President Johnson!' We were shaking hands when a truck hit us."
>
> (from 1,001 Ways to Beat the Draft, by Tuli Kupferburg).
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