The CIA for Kids?

atek3 atek3 at gmx.net
Sat Feb 24 12:58:47 PST 2001


Oh, well if andy yauch knows that the only way to stop violence is to "ban
guns", well shit, what are we waiting for!
Because when guns are banned, only the government (and criminals) will have
guns, sounds like the kind of country I want to live in...no wait, thats the
kind of country stalin wants to live in, oops my bad.

atek3

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Gaylor" <freematt at coil.com>
To: <cypherpunks at cyberpass.net>
Cc: <fight-censorship at vorlon.mit.edu>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:54 AM
Subject: CDR: The CIA for Kids?


> The CIA for Kids?
>
> The Central Intelligence Agency now has a web site for children.  And
> I'm not kidding. http://www.cia.gov/cia/ciakids/index.html
>
> At their site you can "Fly High On Intelligence, NOT Drugs".  Kids
> get to learn why the CIA is involved in thwarting nacrotraffic and
> finding money launders while playing such games as "Break the Code"
> or the "Geography Trivia Quiz".  Or budding junior spies can bone up
> with the "Intelligence Book List" or take a virtual tour of the CIA.
>
> Most of the alphabet soup agencies have rushed head long into
> providing content for children both overtly as evidenced by sites
> such as the CIA's and much more ominously, covertly.
>
> You may have heard that the White House's Office of National Drug
> Control Policy (ONDCP) http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/ pays
> popular Hollywood TV programs to insert anti-drug messages into the
> story lines of the shows.  After some protests among civil
> libertarians, the ONDCP in conjunction with the TV producers agreed
> to mention in the credits that the program was supported by ONDCP.
> This is the same agency that was forced last June to stop tracking
> computer users who viewed their anti drug advertisements on the
> Internet.  Their use violated federal privacy guidelines.  See:
> http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/06/biztech/articles/22net.html
>
> What is less widely known and is not in my opinion publicized due to
> political reasons, is the US Justice Department's practice of
> inserting anti-gun propaganda in various TV programming. Much of the
> anti-gun messages are cloaked in anti-violence material.  In 1999
> MTV, the popular music television station owned by Viacom
> International, released a CD Rom titled "Fight For Your Rights: take
> a stand against violence".  The CD included works by Lauryn Hill, The
> Dave Matthews Band, Everclear, The Backstreet Boys, Alanis
> Morrissette, Tori Amos and included sound bites from other popular
> artists.  Adam Yauch of the Bestie Boys on track 13, the last track
> of the CD, mentioned that the only way to stop violence was to ban
> guns.
>
> I received my free copy of the CD-Rom directly from the US Justice
> Department's Office of Juvenile Justice.
>
> And nary a ripple surfaced last year by the mainstream media when it
> was revealed that the US Army's Psychological Operations Units do
> Internships at CNN and other news outlets.
>
> In March of 2000 I posted some information to my worldwide mailing
> list, Freematt's Alerts, on the subject of Psychological Operations
> On The Internet. I had posted some information on UKUSA's Echelon,
> the global spy network.
>
> I posted some info from John Young's <jya at pipeline.com> excellent
> site:   http://cryptome.org/
>
> In particular I posted this quote from http://cryptome.org/madsen hmhd.htm
>
> "They constantly broadcast disinformation to television and radio
> audiences in Haiti, Serbia, Colombia, Mexico and elsewhere."
>
> Lo and behold, I got contacted by a member of the US Army Reserve's
> 246th Psychological Operations Company from Columbus, Ohio who took
> exception with that comment.  His title is All-Source Intelligence
> Analyst and Psychological Operations Specialist.
>
> He claims to have contacted me as a private citizen and he mentioned
> that he didn't tell me anything that wasn't open information. I
> engaged with him over several emails then I switched into an IRC
> channel for a couple of hours and I quizzed him on several issues
> that some of you may find noteworthy.  I'll refer to him as Agent X
> out respect for his privacy.
>
> Agent X wrote:
> I find it interesting how people with very little information about
> what information the U.S. Actually does put out are so quick to
> judge.  The USIA/USIS and Army Psyop do try to  earn people's support
> for U.S. policy.    This "disinformation" that is put out is Mine
> awareness so that children don't end up dead or maimed, they try to
> get civilians to clear military convoy routes so that relief aid can
> be  transported to the needy, like the orphanage in Haiti that had
> run out of food because a tropical storm had knocked out the bridge
> on the only road to  them.  The U.S. did not engage in the use of the
> Internet as an information tool in Bosnia as the legality of the
> issue was still under debate.  Under U.S. law and Army Policy no
> Psyop may be conducted on U.S. citizens.  The internet being an open
> medium would have allowed U.S. citizens to be subjected to the
> information.  As such the internet was not used.
>
> An article written about my Psychological Operations Unit in Haiti:
>
> http://www.dtic.mil/soldiers/may95/p40.html
>
> Matthew Gaylor's response: I opinioned that sending troops down to
> Haiti to perform community service seems like a total waste of money
> as the service could have been done by a well equipped Boy Scout
> troop.
>
> Agent X continued:
> The goal of psyop is to win the hearts and minds...the nuns were
> greatful...do you think they supported our mission there after that?
> My  units mission is tactical meaning we coordinate radio broadcasts,
> distribute  fliers and do loudspeaker broadcasts.  I know the
> internet was not used for  psyop in bosnia for a fact.  The army was
> still developing its policy on that  medium.  There is a terrific
> after action report online that discusses the failure of the US to
> seize this medium.
>
> http://www.dodccrp.org/bosend.htm
>
> This is the end notes that discusses the internet failure.  I warn
> you its  quite dry and the psyop bit is towards the end.  At the base
> of the page is  URLs to the rest of the site for the full article.
>
> Matthew Gaylor responded:
> I can fully believe that the Internet wasn't used in Haiti, after all
> it isn't used in Cuba either, because hardly anybody has a decent
> supply of toilet paper let alone Internet access.
>
> Agent X responds:
> As to the internet and haiti... the comment had to do more with our
> supposed  "disinformation" then on the use of the internet but you're
> right in Haiti that would be a poor medium.
>
> The US is just now bringing its Psyop units up for capability to use
> the  internet.  All information distributed must be approved by the
> National  Command during peace time.  SO everything we get is drawn
> up by others.  That  way the entire campaign is coordinated
> effectively and no messages that would  offend are put out.
>
> What I'm saying is that up to 1997 the US had not been involved in
> psyacts on  the internet.  That was Bosnia...now as to Kosovo in 1999
> the situation
> hasn't changed much...but we will use any means to cripple an enemies
> communication systems...such as denial of service and such in serbia.
>
> ###
>
> The following interchanges occurred between myself (Wagthedogy) and
> Agent X using an instant message service. Some of the comments
> started out specific to Ohio, but then branched out.
>
> Wagthedogy: What does Sen. Mike Dewine (R) Ohio have?
> Agent X: Influence in Washington
> Wagthedogy   I mean, what issues?
> Agent X He's pretty standard party line republican
> Wagthedogy: You mean gun control, larger government etc.?
> Agent X: well theoretically...republicans want smaller government
> Wagthedogy:  Don't listen to what they say watch what they do.  In
> psyopps you should know that.
> Agent X: yes but I'm not a total libertarian either
> Agent X: is why I pick and choose
> Wagthedogy: It doesn't matter how libertarian you are.  What
> matters is if you believe in freedom and the constitution.
> Agent X: I believe in strong national defense
> Wagthedogy: Me too
> Wagthedogy: But we have troops in Columbia fighting the drug war
> as an example.
> Agent X: we provide MI support
> Agent X: and occasionally we send units to train with the columbians
> Wagthedogy: Delta is on the ground in Columbia running missions
> Agent X: Yes and usarso has done it too and one of my good
> friends was there.
>
> Wagthedogy: What major issue to you differ with the Libertarians?
> Agent X: yes but I don't think we should have no government either
> Wagthedogy: Me either
> Agent X: I believe in some foreign aid and intervention
> Wagthedogy: How much and to who?
> Agent X: To any ally strategically of interest to us. Georgia
> is a huge one at the moment. It is important we keep russia from
> redominating half the world
> Wagthedogy: Like Chile?  Kissinger once remarked it was a giant
> dagger pointed towards antarctica <grin>
> Wagthedogy: 3 billion to Israel?
> Agent X: Georgia is at the center of a sphere of influence
> that surrounds the majority of the worlds oil.
>
> Wagthedogy: Here's a question for you.  What is your world view?
> What do you believe?
> Agent X: world view? meaning?
> Wagthedogy: Ideology, culture, religion, you're relationship to
> others, etc.
> Agent X: As an american I was brought up in one of the most
> ethnocentric cultures in the world as to religion I'm atheist as to a
> christian god...agnostic as to a God. I was raised lower income
> protestant Am now middle income. Is that what you wanted to know or?
> Wagthedogy: What about your political ideology.  What
> thinkers/writers have influenced you?
> Agent X: well not really political but I like Nietzsche...as
> to politics I haven't read much I've read Machevellis "The Prince",
> Thomas More's "Utopia", I've read Brave New World, 1984, Fahrenheit
> 451, Animal Farm...all those sorts of things.
> Wagthedogy: That's a good start.
> Wagthedogy: Do you plan to enter the Army full time?
> Agent X: no...having dual job specialties in the army...with
> psyop and mi always short handed I can be on active duty as much as I
> want
>
> Agent X: SWIC is the Special Warfare Instruction Center...well
> the John Fitzgerald Kenenedy SWIC...its at Ft. Bragg anyway their
> website will probably tell you more
> Wagthedogy: What schools in the Army have you been to?
> Agent X: basic training ft leonard wood, ait ft huachuca - all
> source intel analyst course,basic airborne ft benning,jrtc ft polk,
> ft knox psychological operations specialist.
> Wagthedogy: I sure hope you didn't help set up the loudspeakers at WACO
> Agent X: No
> Wagthedogy: That's an example of psyopps.
> Agent X: if any psyop was there at all it was the 321s or 5th
> I forget out of dallas. But I'm pretty sure that was FBI stuff not
> Army. National guard was there but they have no psyop assets. For
> psyop to have been there they would have had to be called up by
> presidential order.
> Wagthedogy: FBI with Delta advisors.
>
> [End note from Matthew Gaylor: I edited the above text for clarity
> and I sniped some irrelevant commentary.]
>
> Regards, Matt-
>
>
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