At 04:38 PM 8/9/96 -0400, P. J. Ponder wrote: >Today at lunchtime in the Eastern Time Zone, the radio show Real >Computing with John C. Dvorak had John Gilmore as a guest, >Gilmore was referred to by Dvorak as the head of the cypherpunks a few >times. What was that old saying, "Like herding cats"? Jim Bell jimbell at pacifier.com