[CCGT] Checking the pulse of the Community Council

[Gregory Newby]

On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 08:47:07PM -0500, Geoffrey Fox wrote:
> Here is a humourless reply so it can be ignored .....
> 
> As well as add-ons as you describe, I was thinking of idea of
> "GGF Community only meetings" organized to support a few
> communities
> e.g. a 2 day Midwest regional GGF community meeting
> in spring or summer (at a random place like Bloomington IN)
> where Midwest designation meant organizing committee
> came from Midwest. It would be aimed to support national
> communities and provide a US meeting between Boston 2005
> and Boston 2006

I think this is a great idea, and might be easiest
to start as regional university-based events, perhaps
tied to favorite campus groups such as IEEE or ACM (get
the students involved!).

Another related idea is tying to other conferences....
BOFs or sessions...for a brief event.  I wish we had been
organized enough to do this at Supercomputing '05, but there
are plenty of other conferences.
  -- Greg

> Craig Lee wrote:
> 
> >
> >g) lack of humor in original email lulled me into complacency
> >
> >My interpretation is that in addition to what we are doing now,
> >e.g., community tracks at GGF meeting, we also need to do
> >the dual, e.g., promote and support relatively small activities
> >at the meetings of other communities.  That is to say, rather
> >than inviting a few people from other groups to talk at GGF meeting,
> >we try to get ourselves invited to talk at the other group's meetings.
> >Presumably this would be lower overhead for the other group
> >and possibly GGF would get larger exposure to the other group.
> >
> >This is essentially a more distributed operation with the
> >number of meetings limited only by resources (time, staffing
> >and money to attend other group meetings).  Making the
> >connections to get invited and then having effective presentations
> >that speak to a particular community are essential.  Follow-up
> >would also be very necessary.  I think this is all quite consistent
> >with your Council Thoughts but certainly should be thought
> >through some more.
> >
> >--Craig
> >
> >At 02:58 PM 9/8/2005, Gregory Newby wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 04:02:49PM -0500, Geoffrey Fox wrote:
> >>> I sent the enclosed notes on a possible organization of community 
> >>council
> >>> But I got no response. I wonder if that meant
> >>> a) Things are chugging along and organization is not important
> >>> b) You were so amazed by brilliance of plan that you can't put 
> >>words to
> >>> email
> >>> c) The plan seemed same as before
> >>> d) You were so amazed by stupidity of plan that you can't put words 
> >>to email
> >>> e) You are too busy right now
> >>> f) ggf emails are on your SPAM filter list
> >>>
> >>> -----------------------------------
> >>> I welcome comments on these thoughts and suggested reorganization 
> >>whose
> >>> main ideas are:
> >>> A Community Plan designed to support communities rather than  just
> >>> exploiting GGF events
> >>> Splitting of council roles into an advisory board and area 
> >>directors as
> >>> expediters
> >>
> >>I think your ideas are right-on, Geoffrey.  Highlights for me:
> >>
> >>- success @ GGF14
> >>- need more & smaller events
> >>- lack of GGF credibility/presence at some ongoing projects
> >>  is a problem
> >>- high overhead for GFSG participation for likely community
> >>  leaders is a problem
> >>
> >>>From my point of view, I'd say that the Community Council is
> >>already empowered to take most (nearly all) of the steps
> >>you mentioned.  Some sort of 18-month calendar of possible
> >>activities, and expected changes in the status quo, would
> >>be good to present to the GFSG, perhaps at the upcoming f2f
> >>at GGF15.
> >>
> >>One thing that is not so clear to me: how has recruiting
> >>gone for bringing in more people with ideas for community
> >>events, making community ties, and the like?  It seems the
> >>NOMCOM made some progress, but your PPT points out that there
> >>needs to be a lot of activity that won't originate in
> >>the GFSG (or community advisory council).
> >>  -- Greg
> >
> >
> >
> 
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