[CCGT] Checking the pulse of the Community Council
Geoffrey Fox
gcf at grids.ucs.indiana.edu
Thu Sep 8 20:47:07 CDT 2005
Here is a humourless reply so it can be ignored .....
As well as add-ons as you describe, I was thinking of idea of
"GGF Community only meetings" organized to support a few
communities
e.g. a 2 day Midwest regional GGF community meeting
in spring or summer (at a random place like Bloomington IN)
where Midwest designation meant organizing committee
came from Midwest. It would be aimed to support national
communities and provide a US meeting between Boston 2005
and Boston 2006
Craig Lee wrote:
>
> g) lack of humor in original email lulled me into complacency
>
> My interpretation is that in addition to what we are doing now,
> e.g., community tracks at GGF meeting, we also need to do
> the dual, e.g., promote and support relatively small activities
> at the meetings of other communities. That is to say, rather
> than inviting a few people from other groups to talk at GGF meeting,
> we try to get ourselves invited to talk at the other group's meetings.
> Presumably this would be lower overhead for the other group
> and possibly GGF would get larger exposure to the other group.
>
> This is essentially a more distributed operation with the
> number of meetings limited only by resources (time, staffing
> and money to attend other group meetings). Making the
> connections to get invited and then having effective presentations
> that speak to a particular community are essential. Follow-up
> would also be very necessary. I think this is all quite consistent
> with your Council Thoughts but certainly should be thought
> through some more.
>
> --Craig
>
> At 02:58 PM 9/8/2005, Gregory Newby wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 04:02:49PM -0500, Geoffrey Fox wrote:
>> > I sent the enclosed notes on a possible organization of community
>> council
>> > But I got no response. I wonder if that meant
>> > a) Things are chugging along and organization is not important
>> > b) You were so amazed by brilliance of plan that you can't put
>> words to
>> > email
>> > c) The plan seemed same as before
>> > d) You were so amazed by stupidity of plan that you can't put words
>> to email
>> > e) You are too busy right now
>> > f) ggf emails are on your SPAM filter list
>> >
>> > -----------------------------------
>> > I welcome comments on these thoughts and suggested reorganization
>> whose
>> > main ideas are:
>> > A Community Plan designed to support communities rather than just
>> > exploiting GGF events
>> > Splitting of council roles into an advisory board and area
>> directors as
>> > expediters
>>
>> I think your ideas are right-on, Geoffrey. Highlights for me:
>>
>> - success @ GGF14
>> - need more & smaller events
>> - lack of GGF credibility/presence at some ongoing projects
>> is a problem
>> - high overhead for GFSG participation for likely community
>> leaders is a problem
>>
>> >From my point of view, I'd say that the Community Council is
>> already empowered to take most (nearly all) of the steps
>> you mentioned. Some sort of 18-month calendar of possible
>> activities, and expected changes in the status quo, would
>> be good to present to the GFSG, perhaps at the upcoming f2f
>> at GGF15.
>>
>> One thing that is not so clear to me: how has recruiting
>> gone for bringing in more people with ideas for community
>> events, making community ties, and the like? It seems the
>> NOMCOM made some progress, but your PPT points out that there
>> needs to be a lot of activity that won't originate in
>> the GFSG (or community advisory council).
>> -- Greg
>
>
>
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