[Capi-bof] Cloud Standards Roadmap

[Alexis Richardson]

IMHO:

We should look at what cloud / vitual data center providers are
actually DOING and work from there.  People have done good work
summarising APIs as a starting point for the next steps.  GRID people
will know how to position GRID around this.

a





On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Paulo Calcada <pcalcada at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, definitely, GRID is something that could be "sold" directly to any of
> the upper layers, but that is not a problem, the same is
> happening with IaaS, you could use it directly as a service or you could use
> it to provide the supporting layer to and PaaS and the to the SaaS :)
>
> I come from an Higher education Institution and for me we could perfectly
> use the wikipedia definition:
>
> "Grid computing (or the use of a computational grid) is the application of
> several computers to a single problem at the same time – usually to a
> scientific or technical problem that requires a great number of computer
> processing cycles or access to large amounts of data."
>
> So, GRID, in my prespective is something that we must have inside a Cloud
> Computing diagram, and for me is also clear that we should put here all the
> questions related to the "heavy" computing power.
>
>
> Paulo
>
> 2009/3/24 Alexis Richardson <alexis.richardson at gmail.com>
>>
>> GRID is a tricky one.  When it defines an application execution model
>> (eg "tasks") it is PaaS.  When it speaks to the management of general
>> infra, I think it is IaaS.  And of course, you could have a SaaS
>> offering for grid computing.  So IMO, GRID is orthogonal and "a
>> technology".
>>
>> a
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Paulo Calcada <pcalcada at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hello Sam,
>> >
>> > I think that it would be very important adding to your "model" a layer
>> > dedicated to the Calculus (CPU or computing power) question, such as
>> > GRID
>> > computing or things like AMD Render Fusion.  I think that both IaaS,
>> > PaaS or
>> > SaaS are layers well defined, but none of them contains attributes that
>> > could be considered useful to the computing or calculus power paradigm.
>> >
>> > In the follow up of other things that I've presented, and also in the
>> > same
>> > perspective that others also have done, I could resume my (naive) view
>> > or
>> > model in the following layered sequence:
>> >
>> > SaaS - end-users
>> > PaaS - developers and entrepreneurs
>> > IaaS - IT administrators
>> > GRID or other  complex processing solutions that would deploy specific
>> > large
>> > amount of computing power - scientific or technical advance solutions
>> >
>> > Paulo
>> > www.cloudviews.org
>> >
>> > 2009/3/24 Sam Johnston <samj at samj.net>
>> >>
>> >> Morning all,
>> >>
>> >> I have added the Cloud Standards Roadmap to the Cloud Computing
>> >> Community
>> >> Wiki. Please review it and let me know if there are any efforts I have
>> >> missed (or better yet, add them to the wiki). We can use this document
>> >> as an
>> >> authorative source to track standardisation efforts and hopefully
>> >> prevent
>> >> duplication/proliferation.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Sam
>> >>
>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> From: Sam Johnston <samj at samj.net>
>> >> Date: Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:06 AM
>> >> Subject: [Sam Johnston] Cloud Standards Roadmap
>> >> To: samj at samj.net
>> >>
>> >> Almost a year ago in "Cloud Standards: not so fast..." I explained why
>> >> standardisation efforts were premature. A lot has happened in the
>> >> interim
>> >> and it is now time to start intensively developing standards, ideally
>> >> by
>> >> deriving the "consensus" of existing implementations.
>> >>
>> >> To get the ball rolling I've written a Cloud Standards Roadmap which
>> >> can
>> >> be seen as an authorative source for information spanning the various
>> >> standardisation efforts (including identification of areas where effort
>> >> is
>> >> required).
>> >>
>> >> Currently it looks like this:
>> >>
>> >> Cloud Standards Roadmap
>> >>
>> >> The cloud standards roadmap tracks the status of relevant standards
>> >> efforts underway by established multi-vendor standards bodies.
>> >>
>> >> Layer Description Group Project Status Due
>> >> Client  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
>> >> Software (SaaS) Operating environment W3C HTML 5 Draft 2008
>> >> Event-driven scripting language ECMA ECMAScript Mature 1997
>> >> Data-interchange format IETF JSON (RFC4627) Mature 2006
>> >> Platform (PaaS) Management API  ?  ?  ?  ?
>> >> Infrastructure (IaaS) Management API OGF Cloud Infrastructure API (CIA)
>> >> Formation 2009
>> >> Container format for virtual machines DMTF Open Virtualisation Format
>> >> (OVF) Complete 2009
>> >> Descriptive language for resources DMTF CIM Mature 1999
>> >> Fabric  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
>> >> Other standards efforts
>> >>
>> >> Cloud Standards Group
>> >>
>> >> Cloud Computing Reference Model
>> >> Cloud Computing Stack
>> >> Cloud Platform Reference Architecture
>> >>
>> >> CCIF UCI - A "singular programmatic point of contact that can encompass
>> >> the entire infrastructure stack as well as emerging cloud centric
>> >> technologies all through a unified interface"
>> >>
>> >> Vendor-owned standards
>> >>
>> >> Infrastructure
>> >>
>> >> Amazon EC2 API
>> >> AppNexus API
>> >> ElasticHosts API
>> >> Eucalyptus (which uses the Amazon EC2 API)
>> >> FlexiScale API
>> >> Globus Numbus (which uses the Amazon EC2 API and WSRF)
>> >> GoGrid API
>> >> OpenNebula API
>> >> SliceHost API
>> >> Sun Cloud APIs
>> >>
>> >> Fabric
>> >>
>> >> F5 iControl (Networking)
>> >>
>> >> Other resources
>> >>
>> >> Apache Tashi
>> >> OASIS Reference Model for Service Oriented Architecture
>> >>
>> >> Please check the Cloud Computing Community Wiki for the latest version
>> >> as
>> >> this information will be quickly dated. If you have any updates please
>> >> feel
>> >> free to contribute them.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
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