Action Item on [cads] Community Council Meeting Minutes

[Robert Cohen]

How about infrastructure and virtualization?

I think this will avoid the words science, research, and 
cyberinfrastructure and provide a clear idea of the focus. I know there 
is some debate about virtualization and what it stands for, but I think 
it would be a very helpful term here.

Bob

Catlett Charlie wrote:

>>>> e-Science
>>>
> name of a UK program, so too narrow
>
>>>> e-Research
>>>
> best not to define yet another new term which does not help 
> communication (the point to choosing a word)
>
>>>> Cyberinfrastructure
>>>
> understood broadly in the US, but has a US centrism to it so perhaps 
> too narrow
>
>>>> Science (in spirit of NSF which also does education and engineering)
>>>
> ok, maybe, if we are going for one word*
>
>>>> Research
>>>
> no*
>
>>>>
>
> * the trouble with one word is that it paints this group into an 
> academic-only corner. I am tempted to suggest "Infrastructure" because 
> this group in fact exists within a Grid-oriented organization and thus 
> there is no need to clarify that we are talking e- or cyber- or grid.
>
> If we are infrastructure then we are not tied exclusively to science 
> (most companies, if they do any science, do very little), research 
> (despite similarities with corporate research, this paints an academic 
> club picture), or some particular made-up buzzword like e- Science or 
> cyberinfrastructure.
>
> CeC
>
> On May 23, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Geoffrey Fox wrote:
>
>> We are trying to find one word!
>> The full title can (and at one time did) have Research and 
>> Development in it
>>
>> Robert Cohen wrote:
>>
>>> I would prefer something that sounds a bit less pure research or 
>>> Ivory Tower. Some of what will be covered could also
>>> be done in a development environment or the research side of a 
>>> corporation. Also by dropping cyberinfrastructure the link to 
>>> infrastructure disappears.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Perhaps analytic or Alan Blatecky wrote:
>>>
>>>> I vote for Science - exactly for the reason Geoffrey has mentioned.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Research isn’t as broad, and is often set as opposed to education 
>>>> (hence Research and Education networks)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> e-Science and e-Research are trendy, but already have baggage 
>>>> associated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I like cyberinfrastructure, but is too broad and covers a huge 
>>>> range of disciplines, tools, and so forth.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-cads at ggf.org [mailto:owner-cads at ggf.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Geoffrey Fox
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:11 PM
>>>> To: cads at ggf.org
>>>> Cc: Gwen Nichols-White
>>>> Subject: Action Item on [cads] Community Council Meeting Minutes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> · Geoffrey Fox, by next Community call (6/6), to create a shortlist 
>>>> (qty 3) options for single-word name for the “Engineering, Science 
>>>> and Research” function, then socialize amongst the research 
>>>> community to ensure acceptance. Final decision will be made for 
>>>> functions and areas by the end of June.
>>>>
>>>> We need to find some single word names; here is a start
>>>> Lets add names and then vote. Here is a start
>>>>
>>>> e-Science
>>>> e-Research
>>>> Cyberinfrastructure
>>>> Science (in spirit of NSF which also does education and engineering)
>>>> Research
>>>>
>>>> Gwen Nichols-White wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> Attached are the minutes and action items from today’s meeting. Our 
>>>> next meeting is scheduled for 10am CST, on Tuesday 6/6/06. Please 
>>>> call if you have questions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gwen Nichols-White
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> -- :: Geoffrey Fox gcf at indiana.edu FAX 8128567972 http:// 
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>>>> 8123910207
>>>
>>>
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>> -- : : Geoffrey Fox gcf at indiana.edu FAX 8128567972 http:// 
>> www.infomall.org : Phones Cell 812-219-4643 Home 8123239196 Lab 
>> 8128567977 : SkypeIn 812-669-0772 with voicemail, International cell 
>> 8123910207
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