Are there crypto discussions on this forum
Hi, I am Igor Chudov, a great while ago I was involved in running this mailing list via my proposal of a distributed list. Then junk messages became too time consuming and I got busy. I decided to subscribe to take a peek recently, and wanted to ask if this mailing list has bona fide discussions of cryptography, its role in the modern economy, finance and politics, etc. Thanks
On 11/28/2016 07:58 PM, Igor Chudov wrote:
Hi, I am Igor Chudov, a great while ago I was involved in running this mailing list via my proposal of a distributed list. Then junk messages became too time consuming and I got busy.
I decided to subscribe to take a peek recently, and wanted to ask if this mailing list has bona fide discussions of cryptography, its role in the modern economy, finance and politics, etc.
Thanks
Nope. It's dead meat. Troll hill. So it goes.
On 11/28/2016 07:20 PM, Mirimir wrote:
On 11/28/2016 07:58 PM, Igor Chudov wrote:
Hi, I am Igor Chudov, a great while ago I was involved in running this mailing list via my proposal of a distributed list. Then junk messages became too time consuming and I got busy.
I decided to subscribe to take a peek recently, and wanted to ask if this mailing list has bona fide discussions of cryptography, its role in the modern economy, finance and politics, etc.
Thanks Nope. It's dead meat. Troll hill. So it goes.
I try to post security technology-related items. I don't see much response and get trolled often. Recently: "Ride for Free! Hackers Hold SF's MTA's Computer Network Hostage For $73k Ransom" with some details of the hack. "Dave? Dave? What are you doing Dave? - 'Robot Smashes Booth, Injures Man at Tech Fair'" Today: "Technocracy: "...all of us went along with it, because the simplicity was reassuring.", with links to some awesome neo-philosophical thoughts on technology by Adam Curtis. I end up getting responses like On 11/27/2016 07:22 PM, juan wrote:
Go stone some palestinians razer.
Rr Ps. This was never a cryptography list. Pps: This list seems to be infested by right-wing libertarian feudalists who think they're anarchists, but I'm used to that from living near Silicon Valley for 40 years. Some think they're hippies cause they're hipsters, too. It was fun watching a drug discussion a while back. Maybe the list will self-correct after a while if enough of them believe their own bs powder drug fantasies and croak.
Hi, Igor. Welcome back to the CypherPunk List! :D I am Ceci, a crazy noob from Brazil. Nice to meet you! :) Please, choose your favorite cryptography, security, privacy, coding, A.I., Math, etc, etc, subjects and share interesting informations, good and bad news, your personal ideas, curious bibliography... No limits, my dear, but I sincerely suggest you lots of patience and some sense of humour. The list has no moderation. You have free will to express your convictions and need to have good sense enough to self-moderate yourself. Or not, your option only. ;) Like my loved Mirimir mentioned before, there are some stupid trolls and a lot of garbage, but we can make this list better, bringing interesting considerations about relevant themes. Believe me, in the middle of all the junk and the trash, there are great people hidden here, some provocative discussions and singular delightful messages. Please, feel free and comfortable to talk about everything! Good luck and be happy! :D Ceci -- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Igor Chudov <igor@chudov.com> wrote:
Hi, I am Igor Chudov, a great while ago I was involved in running this mailing list via my proposal of a distributed list. Then junk messages became too time consuming and I got busy.
I decided to subscribe to take a peek recently, and wanted to ask if this mailing list has bona fide discussions of cryptography, its role in the modern economy, finance and politics, etc.
Thanks
Speaking of "Troll Hill" The cecibot must have all recently unseen addresses or handles are triggering notifications to it's owner. A stolen identity. Rr On 11/28/2016 08:01 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
Hi, Igor. Welcome back to the CypherPunk List! :D
I am Ceci, a crazy noob from Brazil. Nice to meet you! :)
Please, choose your favorite cryptography, security, privacy, coding, A.I., Math, etc, etc, subjects and share interesting informations, good and bad news, your personal ideas, curious bibliography... No limits, my dear, but I sincerely suggest you lots of patience and some sense of humour.
The list has no moderation. You have free will to express your convictions and need to have good sense enough to self-moderate yourself. Or not, your option only. ;)
Like my loved Mirimir mentioned before, there are some stupid trolls and a lot of garbage, but we can make this list better, bringing interesting considerations about relevant themes. Believe me, in the middle of all the junk and the trash, there are great people hidden here, some provocative discussions and singular delightful messages.
Please, feel free and comfortable to talk about everything! Good luck and be happy! :D
Ceci -- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Igor Chudov <igor@chudov.com <mailto:igor@chudov.com>> wrote:
Hi, I am Igor Chudov, a great while ago I was involved in running this mailing list via my proposal of a distributed list. Then junk messages became too time consuming and I got busy.
I decided to subscribe to take a peek recently, and wanted to ask if this mailing list has bona fide discussions of cryptography, its role in the modern economy, finance and politics, etc.
Thanks
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Speaking of "Troll Hill" The cecibot must have all recently unseen addresses or handles are triggering notifications to it's owner. A stolen identity.
Sorry for being so silent and late, my dear Razer . Had really bad times and spent several days in the hospital, with pain and almost no access to internet. Still very hurt, physically and emotionally, but my ex-boyfriend always used to say that I am survivor, an eternal lone wolf. Unhappily, he is right. I am my own cat and all the places are mine, even the darkest ones . I will survive with few little scars, some pain and purple hair. I was bored at hospital, stole a bit of "Gentian Violet" and decided to play with my hair, haha!! It didn't work well. My hair is still dark, but with discreet purple reflexes. In some cultures, Violet is the Death's color, but I love it. Exotic and charming. I didn't steal any identity or create any bot, my dear Razer. I know you were missing me, grumpy bastard. So, a bit of p0rn to make you feel happy in this long and lonely night... Japanese Pussies and Bitches only for you, hahaha!!! ;D http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/06/28/welcome-to-the-world- of-cats-in-kimonos/ http://en.rocketnews24.com/2016/01/03/celebrate-the-new-year -with-kimono-dogs/ Tender kisses, dear! :* Ceci
a bit of p0rn to make you feel happy
Circuit porn... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr1nN__-2Po
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/06/28/welcome-to-the-world-of-cats-in-kimono...
Masked Kitteh Krew drops in, burns shit up AnarCat Style... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYcHz2k5x0
autopwn2 - rick roll - hooked -------- Original Message -------- On Nov 28, 2016, 9:45 PM, grarpamp wrote:
a bit of p0rn to make you feel happy
Circuit porn... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr1nN__-2Po
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/06/28/welcome-to-the-world-of-cats-in-kimono...
Masked Kitteh Krew drops in, burns shit up AnarCat Style... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYcHz2k5x0
your always in hospital or some shit - -------- Original Message -------- On Nov 28, 2016, 8:53 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote: Speaking of "Troll Hill" The cecibot must have all recently unseen addresses or handles are triggering notifications to it's owner. A stolen identity. Sorry for being so silent and late, my dear Razer . Had really bad times and spent several days in the hospital, with pain and almost no access to internet. Still very hurt, physically and emotionally, but my ex-boyfriend always used to say that I am survivor, an eternal lone wolf. Unhappily, he is right. I am my own cat and all the places are mine, even the darkest ones . I will survive with few little scars, some pain and purple hair. I was bored at hospital, stole a bit of "Gentian Violet" and decided to play with my hair, haha!! It didn't work well. My hair is still dark, but with discreet purple reflexes. In some cultures, Violet is the Death's color, but I love it. Exotic and charming. I didn't steal any identity or create any bot, my dear Razer. I know you were missing me, grumpy bastard. So, a bit of p0rn to make you feel happy in this long and lonely night... Japanese Pussies and Bitches only for you, hahaha!!! ;D [ http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/06/28/welcome-to-the-world-of-cats-in-kimonos/](http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/06/28/welcome-to-the-world-of-cats-in-kimonos/) http://en.rocketnews24.com/2016/01/03/celebrate-the-new-year-with-kimono-dog... Tender kisses, dear! :* Ceci
hi hi hi (*_*) igor -------- Original Message -------- On Nov 28, 2016, 6:58 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: Hi, I am Igor Chudov, a great while ago I was involved in running this mailing list via my proposal of a distributed list. Then junk messages became too time consuming and I got busy. I decided to subscribe to take a peek recently, and wanted to ask if this mailing list has bona fide discussions of cryptography, its role in the modern economy, finance and politics, etc. Thanks
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 08:58:09PM -0600, Igor Chudov wrote:
I decided to subscribe to take a peek recently, and wanted to ask if this mailing list has bona fide discussions of cryptography, its role in the modern economy, finance and politics, etc.
That was a long time ago, in a galaxy far away. But you can help bring the good times back.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/28/2016 09:58 PM, Igor Chudov wrote:
Hi, I am Igor Chudov, a great while ago I was involved in running this mailing list via my proposal of a distributed list. Then junk messages became too time consuming and I got busy.
I decided to subscribe to take a peek recently, and wanted to ask if this mailing list has bona fide discussions of cryptography, its role in the modern economy, finance and politics, etc.
The only way this list can get "bona fide discussions of cryptography, its role in the modern economy, finance and politics, etc." is if people start posting relevant information, announcements, links to resources, etc. CPunks now provides a pass/fail course in how to communicate in an environment flooded with spurious signals, spoofing and straight up noise. Subscribe and attempt to have useful conversations, if you are up for an audit and upgrade of your capabilities in these areas. Or just go to the Cryptography list, which covers the more technical items among the topical interests you list above. :o) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJYPgblAAoJEECU6c5XzmuqdVMIAMrRLDHt2/pfoyPh2FNcgU96 zl/G39yQdSmKfEfJfLSJrqsmr/ezLE+MsiGZM0cSamXh9h0mSgtmNCgnor3qreBb A0wsKnGVWorZSvFaqtgHkRq83bgXAQ5P8b+aHLxeb3+xCHcl471OS4PJN1tthqCs T2yt0Vh/67ZPFVgCthmfS0chL7HkA248q/P6orJcvWsj46uSTEdqkQIi8PcOfJ2/ uJQ0wXfb29GkD4XE28N/9mIgFfYds4qQOTNKj7hSnljh2FLq5HXS+bM3Fk7njyF6 VIBCplbiu14NV7Ozs/TMHM2RWud454rhTOZUg0Piuu3LhnK8NANA/x5hfBfaTC0= =lg2+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Nov 29, 2016, at 6:00 PM, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:53:25 -0500 Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
Or just go to the Cryptography list, which covers the more technical items among the topical interests you list above.
lol! So you think the 'cryptography' list is a legitimate resource. Dully noted.
Dull minds make for dull notations. ;) John
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 19:38:04 -0500 John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
On Nov 29, 2016, at 6:00 PM, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:53:25 -0500 Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
Or just go to the Cryptography list, which covers the more technical items among the topical interests you list above.
lol! So you think the 'cryptography' list is a legitimate resource. Dully noted.
Dull minds make for dull notations. ;)
Dully noted. It is a dull event, but it does deserve a bit of attention. Anyway, why should I bother getting the spelling of your fucking, imperial, nazi langauge right? Not to mention, have you noticed how shitty english spelling is? Vast majority of languages have mostly consistent spelling. Not english. You are 'exceptional' in every possible way...
John
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 09:50:52PM -0300, Juan wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 19:38:04 -0500 John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
On Nov 29, 2016, at 6:00 PM, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:53:25 -0500 Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
Or just go to the Cryptography list, which covers the more technical items among the topical interests you list above.
lol! So you think the 'cryptography' list is a legitimate resource. Dully noted.
Dull minds make for dull notations. ;)
Dully noted. It is a dull event, but it does deserve a bit of attention.
Anyway, why should I bother getting the spelling of your fucking, imperial, nazi langauge right?
Not to mention, have you noticed how shitty english spelling is? Vast majority of languages have mostly consistent spelling. Not english. You are 'exceptional' in every possible way...
Perhaps "special" is a better adjective in this instance? -- Certified (R) Deplorable (TM) Fake News (TM) Which Hunter (C) Executive Director of Vice, Ministry of Winning Shilling for buxom Russian swastika clad minxes since 1488
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:50 PM, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
Dully noted. It is a dull event, but it does deserve a bit of attention.
Anyway, why should I bother getting the spelling of your fucking, imperial, nazi langauge right?
Not to mention, have you noticed how shitty english spelling is? Vast majority of languages have mostly consistent spelling. Not english. You are 'exceptional' in every possible way...
Stop complaining so much about everything, my dear. Now -- tcharan, tcharan! -- I have an incontestable proof of the seriouness of the scientific researches. Suck it, Juan! But suck it in the breakfast, haha!! :D http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/23/ice-cream-breakfast-makes-smarter... http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/ice-... Your English is much better than mine and you are pretty brave, my dear. I was just trying to make you smile. In Portuguese, we "suck", "lick" (popsicles) or "take" ice cream, but in English they "eat" ice cream. "Eating ice cream" would be an ugly grammar mistake in Portuguese. Languages are always pretty fun, haha!! :D
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 09:50:52PM -0300, juan wrote:
Anyway, why should I bother getting the spelling of your fucking, imperial, nazi langauge right?
Die Nazisprache ist immer noch Deutsch, Du Vollhonk. However, such rumblings are one of the causes why this list became yet another spam list. - Tom
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 I believe you are looking for the cryptography list or tor list if you want to only see what a particular individual thinks is acceptable :D On 30 November 2016 10:57:14 GMT+00:00, Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 09:45:47AM +0100, Tom wrote:
However, such rumblings are one of the causes why this list became yet another spam list.
Indeed. Anyone care to volunteer for moderation duty?
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On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:09:45AM +0000, oshwm wrote:
I believe you are looking for the cryptography list or tor list if you want to only see what a particular individual thinks is acceptable :D
I'm subscribed to those, and they are actually functional, unlike this list. I vastly prefer a well-moderated list to the alternatives. If you're of the opposite opinion you're being a part of the problem.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 If you are already part of functional censored lists why would you be interested in this despicable, dysfunctional, uncensored list? Surely you have all you need elsewhere? On 30 November 2016 11:42:13 GMT+00:00, Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:09:45AM +0000, oshwm wrote:
I believe you are looking for the cryptography list or tor list if you want to only see what a particular individual thinks is acceptable :D
I'm subscribed to those, and they are actually functional, unlike this list.
I vastly prefer a well-moderated list to the alternatives.
If you're of the opposite opinion you're being a part of the problem.
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On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:50:49AM +0000, oshwm wrote:
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If you are already part of functional censored lists why would you be interested in this despicable, dysfunctional, uncensored list?
That's because it has been a very useful list for a very long time. Don't recall seeing your name back then.
Surely you have all you need elsewhere?
How do you kill an unmoderated list? By flooding it with shit.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Or you moderate it until the only opinions allowed are ones you agree with. And with regards to the past, I didn't exist back then and may not exist in the future either :) On 30 November 2016 12:53:54 GMT+00:00, Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:50:49AM +0000, oshwm wrote:
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If you are already part of functional censored lists why would you be interested in this despicable, dysfunctional, uncensored list?
That's because it has been a very useful list for a very long time.
Don't recall seeing your name back then.
Surely you have all you need elsewhere?
How do you kill an unmoderated list? By flooding it with shit.
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On 11/30/2016 03:42 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:09:45AM +0000, oshwm wrote:
I believe you are looking for the cryptography list or tor list if you want to only see what a particular individual thinks is acceptable :D I'm subscribed to those, and they are actually functional, unlike this list.
I vastly prefer a well-moderated list to the alternatives.
If you're of the opposite opinion you're being a part of the problem.
It really depends on what you're looking for in the way of lists. All code and (lets say) no "Robot escapes and injures human" make lists dull, and dull minds stick together. Otoh, having participated in other lists that seriously degenerated I'd say this one is pretty bad right. I might not be a state of the art coder but I do have interest in the topic and wouldn't stick around for alist that was all bot-spew (aff... cece) and medicated rants (Fucking nazi commie blah blah).. Use filters. I'm sure there a few people here who don't like my anti-libertard statements and I have a few semi-autonomous bots on mine,. Easy to do, and save reading people's whines... Which are, btw, another kind of spam Rr
On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:42 AM, Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:09:45AM +0000, oshwm wrote:
I believe you are looking for the cryptography list or tor list if you want to only see what a particular individual thinks is acceptable :D
I'm subscribed to those, and they are actually functional, unlike this list.
I vastly prefer a well-moderated list to the alternatives.
If you're of the opposite opinion you're being a part of the problem.
Different lists , different purposes. If you (understandably) can't handle the muck, unsubscribe. John
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:42:13 +0000 Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:09:45AM +0000, oshwm wrote:
I believe you are looking for the cryptography list or tor list if you want to only see what a particular individual thinks is acceptable :D
I'm subscribed to those, and they are actually functional, unlike this list.
I vastly prefer a well-moderated list to the alternatives.
If you're of the opposite opinion you're being a part of the problem.
Well, Comrade Leitl is just another member of the list, collection, group, set, hashset, vector, array of American Fascists posing as 'cypherpunks'. Hardly surprising of course.
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:42:13 +0000 Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:
I vastly prefer a well-moderated list to the alternatives.
Now, here's something mildly entertaining. Somebody started a 'technical' discussion : https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2016-November/033946.html Aaaannnd, the only one who bothered to reply was...me (my reply was spot on, technically speaking, by the way) None of the whiners who constantly whine about lack of 'technical' discussion replied. Those are the same whiners who constantly post off topic garbage themselves while whining about off topic garbage being posted.
Just to add to the discussion if we're busy justifying our existence to the whiners... A while back there was an active discussion of open source hardware and 'openfabs' (I took part in that too). But more recently (although not quite meeting the openfab ideal) a cool little piece of open source hardware appeared based on the RISC V instruction set... https://www.sifive.com/ Feel free to discuss, whiners are invited too :P Cheers, oshwm. On 1 December 2016 18:38:39 GMT+00:00, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:42:13 +0000 Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:
I vastly prefer a well-moderated list to the alternatives.
Now, here's something mildly entertaining. Somebody started a 'technical' discussion :
https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2016-November/033946.html
Aaaannnd, the only one who bothered to reply was...me (my reply was spot on, technically speaking, by the way)
None of the whiners who constantly whine about lack of 'technical' discussion replied. Those are the same whiners who constantly post off topic garbage themselves while whining about off topic garbage being posted.
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 20:28:12 +0000 oshwm <oshwm@openmailbox.org> wrote:
Just to add to the discussion if we're busy justifying our existence to the whiners...
A while back there was an active discussion of open source hardware and 'openfabs' (I took part in that too). But more recently (although not quite meeting the openfab ideal) a cool little piece of open source hardware appeared based on the RISC V instruction set...
Feel free to discuss, whiners are invited too :P
https://www.crowdsupply.com/onchip/open-v http://www.onchipuis.io/index.html these people are from colombia. That's...unexpected =)
On 1 December 2016 20:49:58 GMT+00:00, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 20:28:12 +0000 oshwm <oshwm@openmailbox.org> wrote:
Just to add to the discussion if we're busy justifying our existence to the whiners...
A while back there was an active discussion of open source hardware and 'openfabs' (I took part in that too). But more recently (although not quite meeting the openfab ideal) a cool little piece of open source hardware appeared based on the RISC V instruction set...
Feel free to discuss, whiners are invited too :P
https://www.crowdsupply.com/onchip/open-v
http://www.onchipuis.io/index.html
these people are from colombia. That's...unexpected =)
Its always good to have choice :) It looked tome lime SiFive actually have some early boards ready to ship. The only issue with both of these is the potential for backdoors in the hardware when they're shipped compared to the sources. Without Openfabs with ability for interested ppl to go in unannounced to check/audit then we can't escape this risk.
On December 1, 2016 3:49:58 PM EST, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 20:28:12 +0000 oshwm <oshwm@openmailbox.org> wrote:
Just to add to the discussion if we're busy justifying our existence to the whiners...
A while back there was an active discussion of open source hardware and 'openfabs' (I took part in that too). But more recently (although not quite meeting the openfab ideal) a cool little piece of open source hardware appeared based on the RISC V instruction set...
Feel free to discuss, whiners are invited too :P
https://www.crowdsupply.com/onchip/open-v
http://www.onchipuis.io/index.html
these people are from colombia. That's...unexpected =)
The problem with all the open source IC stuff open fabs etc is, as I understand it, it's dogshit slow compared to our unvetted back doored Intel & friends. But, surely it's the future (if there is a future). As printers get better and better... democratization of the silicon. Anyone will be able to fab up whatever shit they need at home or at shop down the road. Gibson's the Peripheral has an interesting near future like this. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
I'd consider volunteering once there are escrowed Bitcoin subscriptions, using BIOR7, so list miscreants have something to loose. Warrant Canary creator On Nov 30, 2016 2:57 AM, "Eugen Leitl" <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 09:45:47AM +0100, Tom wrote:
However, such rumblings are one of the causes why this list became yet another spam list.
Indeed. Anyone care to volunteer for moderation duty?
Did you create the warrant canary? On December 1, 2016 3:41:33 PM EST, Steven Schear <schear.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd consider volunteering once there are escrowed Bitcoin subscriptions, using BIOR7, so list miscreants have something to loose.
Warrant Canary creator
On Nov 30, 2016 2:57 AM, "Eugen Leitl" <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 09:45:47AM +0100, Tom wrote:
However, such rumblings are one of the causes why this list became yet another spam list.
Indeed. Anyone care to volunteer for moderation duty?
-- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:41:33 -0800 Steven Schear <schear.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd consider volunteering once there are escrowed Bitcoin subscriptions,
Enlighten me. How's your protocol for cyber-fascism supposed to work? Are you planning to not only to censor people, but to have them pay in advance for the 'privilege' of freely speaking, and then stealing their money wheh they say something you fascists don't like? Or what? By the way, congrats Steven. Your fuckingly retarded 'libertarian' babbling about the founding fuckers did give you away a while back...
using BIOR7, so list miscreants have something to loose.
Warrant Canary creator
On Nov 30, 2016 2:57 AM, "Eugen Leitl" <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 09:45:47AM +0100, Tom wrote:
However, such rumblings are one of the causes why this list became yet another spam list.
Indeed. Anyone care to volunteer for moderation duty?
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 09:45:47 +0100 Tom <tom@vondein.org> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 09:50:52PM -0300, juan wrote:
Anyway, why should I bother getting the spelling of your fucking, imperial, nazi langauge right?
Die Nazisprache ist immer noch Deutsch, Du Vollhonk.
Yes...that's right...according to Official Doctrine....which is itself wrong =) Vollhonk. I learned some german slang today =P
However, such rumblings are one of the causes why this list became yet another spam list.
- Tom
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This thread illustrates my point. CPunks has a whole ecosystem. One might see some interesting political content, somewhat informed commentary on how State policy interacts with network security IRL, even (when the stars come 'round right and eldrich horrors stalk the night) a proper argument or two. But bring hiking boots, binoculars and a compass. :o) On 11/29/2016 05:53 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
On 11/28/2016 09:58 PM, Igor Chudov wrote:
Hi, I am Igor Chudov, a great while ago I was involved in running this mailing list via my proposal of a distributed list. Then junk messages became too time consuming and I got busy.
I decided to subscribe to take a peek recently, and wanted to ask if this mailing list has bona fide discussions of cryptography, its role in the modern economy, finance and politics, etc.
The only way this list can get "bona fide discussions of cryptography, its role in the modern economy, finance and politics, etc." is if people start posting relevant information, announcements, links to resources, etc.
CPunks now provides a pass/fail course in how to communicate in an environment flooded with spurious signals, spoofing and straight up noise. Subscribe and attempt to have useful conversations, if you are up for an audit and upgrade of your capabilities in these areas.
Or just go to the Cryptography list, which covers the more technical items among the topical interests you list above.
:o)
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/30/2016 02:28 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:
This thread illustrates my point. CPunks has a whole ecosystem.
One might see some interesting political content, somewhat informed commentary on how State policy interacts with network security IRL, even (when the stars come 'round right and eldrich horrors stalk the night) a proper argument or two. But bring hiking boots, binoculars and a compass.
:o)
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