Bolivia coup led by Christian fascist paramilitary leader and millionaire – with foreign support
Bolivia coup led by Christian fascist paramilitary leader and millionaire – with foreign support https://thegrayzone.com/2019/11/11/bolivia-coup-fascist-foreign-support-fern... Read it in full, it will get to the part about Americans.
On Tuesday, November 12, 2019, 11:51:44 AM PST, Ryan Carboni <ryacko@gmail.com> wrote:
Bolivia coup led by Christian fascist paramilitary leader and millionaire – with foreign support https://thegrayzone.com/2019/11/11/bolivia-coup-fascist-foreign-support-fern...
Read it in full, it will get to the part about Americans.
Perhaps, but it sure sounds like Evo Morales engaged in a 'slow-motion-coup', trying to get the public to agree to elimination of the term-limits law, and when that failed, get his cronies in the Supreme Court to okay that anyway. Are people in Bolivia not allowed to object to that manipulation and corruption? Can they not act to take that fraudster out of office, lest it be labelled a "coup"? Jim Bell
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 20:25:39 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, November 12, 2019, 11:51:44 AM PST, Ryan Carboni <ryacko@gmail.com> wrote:
Bolivia coup led by Christian fascist paramilitary leader and millionaire – with foreign support https://thegrayzone.com/2019/11/11/bolivia-coup-fascist-foreign-support-fern...
Read it in full, it will get to the part about Americans.
Perhaps, but it sure sounds like Evo Morales engaged in a 'slow-motion-coup', trying to get the public to agree to elimination of the term-limits law, and when that failed, get his cronies in the Supreme Court to okay that anyway. Are people in Bolivia not allowed to object to that manipulation and corruption? Can they not act to take that fraudster out of office, lest it be labelled a "coup"?
so are you siding with the pro amerikkka fascists in bolivia? morales was far from ideal but he did some things that no 'libertarian' in the american cesspool would ever dare to do https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bolivian-president-evo-morales-declares-isr... oh and what about at least partially telling the DEA to fuck off? "Bolivia's Morales boosts legal coca production " https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-39214085
Jim Bell
On Tuesday, November 12, 2019, 03:04:32 PM PST, Punk-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 20:25:39 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, November 12, 2019, 11:51:44 AM PST, Ryan Carboni <ryacko@gmail.com> wrote: >Bolivia coup led by Christian fascist paramilitary leader and millionaire – with foreign support https://thegrayzone.com/2019/11/11/bolivia-coup-fascist-foreign-support-fern...
Read it in full, it will get to the part about Americans.
Perhaps, but it sure sounds like Evo Morales engaged in a 'slow-motion-coup', trying to get the public to agree to elimination of the term-limits law, and when that failed, get his cronies in the Supreme Court to okay that anyway. Are people in Bolivia not allowed to object to that manipulation and corruption? Can they not act to take that fraudster out of office, lest it be labelled a "coup"?
> so are you siding with the pro amerikkka fascists in bolivia? You are strongly implying:1. There are only two 'sides'.2. And that if you are 'against' Morales, you must be 'for those "pro amerikka fascists in bolivia"'. I don't know any such thing. I am quite capable of being against Morales, without necessarily agreeing with all others who also oppose him, and especially for all their reasons. > morales was far from ideal but he did some things that no 'libertarian' in the american cesspool would ever dare to do We don't yet know who his replacement will be, or his policies. Bolivian President Evo Morales Declares Israel A 'Terrorist State,' Renounces Treaty > oh and what about at least partially telling the DEA to fuck off? That sounded like an excellent aspect to Morales' policy. I hope the next guy maintains this policy.
"Bolivia's Morales boosts legal coca production " Bolivia's Morales boosts coca production
If it were me making the decision, I would not merely "boost" cocaine production, I would make it entirely legal, with no limits whatsoever. (I would not, of course, make it MANDATORY.) Jim Bell
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On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 00:16:01 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
news : Bolivia's Morales boosts coca production
If it were me making the decision, I would not merely "boost" cocaine production, I would make it entirely legal, with no limits whatsoever. (I would not, of course, make it MANDATORY.)
yeah planting coca is legal in bolivia only some selected places, processing it is 'ilegal'. Morales is no libertarian. Yet, imagine what would happen to a farmer who planted 4 acres of coca in the Land of The Free or other parts of the Free World? He would probably be quartered, excomulgated and sentenced to 1000 years in prison. Also, morales and co. can't defy the american nazis too openly. If they did, the american nazis would burn them alive with white phosphorous. Anyway, I think the chances of the next government being worse than morales are high. On the other hand, that's the logical progression of government.
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On 2019-11-13 05:49, Ryan Carboni wrote:
Bolivia coup led by Christian fascist paramilitary leader and millionaire – with foreign support https://thegrayzone.com/2019/11/11/bolivia-coup-fascist-foreign-support-fern...
Read it in full, it will get to the part about Americans.
Morales used violence to "win" an election, electing him for an unconstitutional fourth term. He then used violence against legislators and government officials. The army therefore had to threaten him with horizontal removal. The army is now ensuring that the letter and spirit of the constitution is being followed to hold new elections. Which elections strike me as likely to result in more of the same, since too much is up for grabs for people to follow the rules, and too many people on all sides have broken the rules. Also people are voting their tribe, faith and ethnicity, which apt to end in tribal war. We are already seeing this stuff in USA, with the deep state illegally tapping Trump's phone and fabricating evidence against him, and the governor of a Democratic party state sending thugs to break up a Trump rally, and police to protect those thugs against rally security (fed cops and rentacops), which tactics are bringing us closer in the US to political outcomes being resolved by security forces. We got rather close to a fight between rally security and anti rally security. As the 2020 election draws closer, and if Trump starts draining the swamp, we are likely to see such battles. This is likely to result in a contested election, with the outcome being resolved by whether Trump manages to arrest the Democratic candidate for quid pro quo (Plenty of Biden quid pro quo, notably him pulling the Ukraine prosecutor off investigating his son, and him collecting billions while negotiating a mysteriously terrible trade deal with China) or Trump gets arrested for quid pro quo. Democrats committed no end of arguably illegal acts when they thought that they would be in power forever, and if Trump drains the swamp, which he has ample legal grounds to do, he is likely to get through a constitutional amendment allowing him to exceed term limits, which amendment the Democrats will protest was not legally passed, and we will find ourselves in the same Bolivian situation - too much up for grabs for people to accept election outcomes, and security forces playing an ever increasing role in elections.
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