Re: Covert wireless (was: A crowdfunding campaign to build a free baseband)
-------- Original Message -------- From: coderman <coderman@gmail.com> To: wirelesswarrior@safe-mail.net Cc: falcon@ivan.harhan.org, cypherpunks@cpunks.org Subject: Re: Covert wireless (was: A crowdfunding campaign to build a free baseband) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:11:15 -0700
On 4/10/15, wirelesswarrior@safe-mail.net <wirelesswarrior@safe-mail.net> wrote:
... I delivered a paper last October regarding the reasons such alternatives are needed, reviewed recent developments and offered some practical directions for future work (some of which I am pursuing):
i didn't see mention of MIMO / beam forming systems for both better throughput and greater privacy.
I did not look closely at MIMO due to the lack of inexpensive SDR solutions and their lack of utility at lower bands.
and as common as HackRF is, there are better kits. why was this unit in particular chosen?
Mainly price and frequency coverage. Since my interest is mainly on apps that require transmitting I did not focus on receviers. Starting at twice the HackRF's cost the USRPs are a best buy at the low end. The HackRF's weakness main weakness is its 8-bit ADC and lack of pre-selector to limit strong out-of-band input signals and reduce out-of-band transmiter spurs. However, it has an internal header to which daughter boards can be added and its CPDL can be reprogrammed for these add-ons and other changes. On the receive side a cheap coax bandstop filter, with acceptable insertion loss, can easily be fabricated to knock down the FM broadcast and pager transmitter signals instead of a pre-selector. What other kits were you thinking of? WW
hard problems ahead!
On 4/10/15, wirelesswarrior@safe-mail.net <wirelesswarrior@safe-mail.net> wrote:
... Mainly price and frequency coverage. Since my interest is mainly on apps that require transmitting I did not focus on receviers. Starting at twice the HackRF's cost the USRPs are a best buy at the low end. ... The HackRF's weakness main weakness is its 8-bit ADC and lack of pre-selector to limit strong out-of-band input signals and reduce out-of-band transmiter spurs.
i like the USRP(n series), Pervices (noctar/crimson), BladeRF. you're right about price. cost quickly becomes significant! antennas and front-ends can help a modest radio be better, and here too a dearth of good DIY information... and sadly, power consumption is going to come home to roost before these go mobile. might have to wait for direction conversion circuits before SDR can be tiny, portable, efficient? i am sadly short of solutions, only full of more questions and complaints :)
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