Anyone familiar with SEO (Search Engine Optimization) techniques? I have a mystery.
For those who can help, please do a Google search for 'Bell further alleged in his 2003'You will notice that there are MANY results that contain that phrase, but have something close to gibberish, before and after it. Some results are genuine, but most are apparently not. I suspect that I am the victim of some sort of SEO-techniques, attempting to cover up the fact of the fake, forged appeal case 99-30210. I suspect that the following company had something to do with it: http://www.icmconsulting.com/seo.html See, for instance, http://www.simcoehall.com/service/background-check-expunged.html Jim Bell
On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 03:18:08 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
For those who can help, please do a Google search for 'Bell further alleged in his 2003'You will notice that there are MANY results that contain that phrase, but have something close to gibberish, before and after it.
Weird. The search results I'm seeing (first page) 1) book titled "crypto anarchy" 2) http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/ridgefield-connecticut-p... 3) http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/jail-records-vine.html 4) http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/do-you-have-to-get-a-bac... 5) Jim's wikipedia article 6) http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/indiana-state-police-re... 7) http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/arizona-public-records-... 8) http://www.vinnatur.org/wp-includes/service/free-website-to-view-criminal-re... 9) http://www.vinnatur.org/wp-includes/service/free-criminal-records-bureau-uk.... 10) http://culturesource.net/data/records/criminal-background-guidelines.html results 2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10 all go to the same spam page. In other words, google is such an incredible piece of shit that they can't even run a search engine?
Some results are genuine, but most are apparently not. I suspect that I am the victim of some sort of SEO-techniques,
...that work against an IT company that rules the universe and has a 'market cap' of 428 000 million dollars...
attempting to cover up the fact of the fake, forged appeal case 99-30210. I suspect that the following company had something to do with it: http://www.icmconsulting.com/seo.html See, for instance, http://www.simcoehall.com/service/background-check-expunged.html Jim Bell
From: Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 03:18:08 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
For those who can help, please do a Google search for 'Bell further alleged in his 2003'You will notice that there are MANY results that contain that phrase, but have something close to gibberish, before and after it.
>Weird. The search results I'm seeing (first page)
1) book titled "crypto anarchy" > 2) > http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/ridgefield-connecticut-p...
> 3) > http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/jail-records-vine.html > 4) > http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/do-you-have-to-get-a-bac...
5) Jim's wikipedia article
> 6)
http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/indiana-state-police-re...
> 7)
http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/arizona-public-records-...
8) > http://www.vinnatur.org/wp-includes/service/free-website-to-view-criminal-re...
> 9)
http://www.vinnatur.org/wp-includes/service/free-criminal-records-bureau-uk....
> 10) > http://culturesource.net/data/records/criminal-background-guidelines.html > results 2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10 all go to the same spam page. I think you're wrong about that. It isn't "the same spam page". Rather, it is multiple copies of what amounts to (looks like, to the human eye) the same spam page, but located at different URLs. > In other words, google is such an incredible piece of shit that
they can't even run a search engine? Again, I think you're wrong about that. I don't think Google has done anything wrong, here. Rather, I think that someone else has manufactured many pages which look alike to the human eye, but apparently contain hidden text that can be searched for and found. Google-search has simply catalogued the search results, including the otherwise-invisible text. (White characters on a white background can't be read by eye, but they can be read by Google-search.)
Some results are genuine, but most are apparently not. I suspect that I am the victim of some sort of SEO-techniques,
...that work against an IT company that rules the universe and > has a 'market cap' of 428 000 million dollars... Again, I think you're wrong. What I believe I have seen does not "work against" anybody, except possibly me. Google is simply cataloguing the web pages it sees, as the person (or organization) that produced those pages intends. The only negative consequence, to Google-search, is that they have to catalog a few hundred kilobytes more of web-pages. That's no skin off Google-search's nose. And as far as I understand, the only tricky thing here is that text is present on these pages which cannot be read by a human. If I knew more about the Web than I do, I would probably understand how to adjust my web browser to display visibly what would otherwise be invisible text. The next question is, "what does this mean, and who produced this, and why?". I posted this query to find somebody who had experience in SEO techniques.
Jim Bell
attempting to cover up the fact of the fake, forged appeal case 99-30210. I suspect that the following company had something to do with it: http://www.icmconsulting.com/seo.html See, for instance, http://www.simcoehall.com/service/background-check-expunged.html Jim Bell
I found this partial explanation: http://www.seochat.com/c/a/search-engine-optimization-help/hidden-text-in-we... and http://www.seologic.com/faq/hidden-text and http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/hidden-text-website-34580.html and https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/66353?hl=en Jim Bell From: jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> To: Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com>; "cypherpunks@cpunks.org" <cypherpunks@cpunks.org> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:38 PM Subject: Re: Anyone familiar with SEO (Search Engine Optimization) techniques? I have a mystery. From: Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 03:18:08 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
For those who can help, please do a Google search for 'Bell further alleged in his 2003'You will notice that there are MANY results that contain that phrase, but have something close to gibberish, before and after it.
>Weird. The search results I'm seeing (first page)
1) book titled "crypto anarchy" > 2) > http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/ridgefield-connecticut-p...
> 3) > http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/jail-records-vine.html > 4) > http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/do-you-have-to-get-a-bac...
5) Jim's wikipedia article
> 6)
http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/indiana-state-police-re...
> 7)
http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/arizona-public-records-...
8) > http://www.vinnatur.org/wp-includes/service/free-website-to-view-criminal-re...
> 9)
http://www.vinnatur.org/wp-includes/service/free-criminal-records-bureau-uk....
> 10) > http://culturesource.net/data/records/criminal-background-guidelines.html > results 2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10 all go to the same spam page. I think you're wrong about that. It isn't "the same spam page". Rather, it is multiple copies of what amounts to (looks like, to the human eye) the same spam page, but located at different URLs. > In other words, google is such an incredible piece of shit that
they can't even run a search engine? Again, I think you're wrong about that. I don't think Google has done anything wrong, here. Rather, I think that someone else has manufactured many pages which look alike to the human eye, but apparently contain hidden text that can be searched for and found. Google-search has simply catalogued the search results, including the otherwise-invisible text. (White characters on a white background can't be read by eye, but they can be read by Google-search.)
Some results are genuine, but most are apparently not. I suspect that I am the victim of some sort of SEO-techniques,
...that work against an IT company that rules the universe and > has a 'market cap' of 428 000 million dollars... Again, I think you're wrong. What I believe I have seen does not "work against" anybody, except possibly me. Google is simply cataloguing the web pages it sees, as the person (or organization) that produced those pages intends. The only negative consequence, to Google-search, is that they have to catalog a few hundred kilobytes more of web-pages. That's no skin off Google-search's nose. And as far as I understand, the only tricky thing here is that text is present on these pages which cannot be read by a human. If I knew more about the Web than I do, I would probably understand how to adjust my web browser to display visibly what would otherwise be invisible text. The next question is, "what does this mean, and who produced this, and why?". I posted this query to find somebody who had experience in SEO techniques.
Jim Bell
attempting to cover up the fact of the fake, forged appeal case 99-30210. I suspect that the following company had something to do with it: http://www.icmconsulting.com/seo.html See, for instance, http://www.simcoehall.com/service/background-check-expunged.html Jim Bell
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Basically, right click in page, choose 'view source' from the menu and then search for Bell within the displayed text. There's your hidden text :) There's a bunch of 'metadata' in any web page used for controlling shit like this that is never visible on the actual web page. View source will show this. On 12 September 2015 07:53:57 BST, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
I found this partial explanation: http://www.seochat.com/c/a/search-engine-optimization-help/hidden-text-in-we... and http://www.seologic.com/faq/hidden-text and http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/hidden-text-website-34580.html and https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/66353?hl=en Jim Bell From: jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> To: Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com>; "cypherpunks@cpunks.org" <cypherpunks@cpunks.org> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:38 PM Subject: Re: Anyone familiar with SEO (Search Engine Optimization) techniques? I have a mystery.
From: Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 03:18:08 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
For those who can help, please do a Google search for 'Bell further alleged in his 2003'You will notice that there are MANY results that contain that phrase, but have something close to gibberish, before and after it.
>Weird. The search results I'm seeing (first page)
1) book titled "crypto anarchy" > 2) > http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/ridgefield-connecticut-p...
> 3) > http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/jail-records-vine.html
> 4) > http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/do-you-have-to-get-a-bac...
5) Jim's wikipedia article
> 6)
http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/indiana-state-police-re...
> 7)
http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/arizona-public-records-...
8) > http://www.vinnatur.org/wp-includes/service/free-website-to-view-criminal-re...
> 9)
http://www.vinnatur.org/wp-includes/service/free-criminal-records-bureau-uk....
> 10)
> http://culturesource.net/data/records/criminal-background-guidelines.html
> results 2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10 all go to the same spam page. I think you're wrong about that. It isn't "the same spam page". Rather, it is multiple copies of what amounts to (looks like, to the human eye) the same spam page, but located at different URLs.
> In other words, google is such an incredible piece of shit that
they can't even run a search engine? Again, I think you're wrong about that. I don't think Google has done anything wrong, here. Rather, I think that someone else has manufactured many pages which look alike to the human eye, but apparently contain hidden text that can be searched for and found. Google-search has simply catalogued the search results, including the otherwise-invisible text. (White characters on a white background can't be read by eye, but they can be read by Google-search.)
Some results are genuine, but most are apparently not. I suspect that I am the victim of some sort of SEO-techniques,
...that work against an IT company that rules the universe and > has a 'market cap' of 428 000 million dollars... Again, I think you're wrong. What I believe I have seen does not "work against" anybody, except possibly me. Google is simply cataloguing the web pages it sees, as the person (or organization) that produced those pages intends. The only negative consequence, to Google-search, is that they have to catalog a few hundred kilobytes more of web-pages. That's no skin off Google-search's nose. And as far as I understand, the only tricky thing here is that text is present on these pages which cannot be read by a human. If I knew more about the Web than I do, I would probably understand how to adjust my web browser to display visibly what would otherwise be invisible text. The next question is, "what does this mean, and who produced this, and why?". I posted this query to find somebody who had experience in SEO techniques.
Jim Bell
attempting to cover up the fact of the fake, forged appeal case 99-30210. I suspect that the following company had something to do with it: http://www.icmconsulting.com/seo.html See, for
instance, http://www.simcoehall.com/service/background-check-expunged.html
Jim Bell
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Okay, I did this for one of the instances, , http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/public-property-records... and got (in part) the relevant section: | <p>Raised in the killing of canoga park, he had a married adverse <a href="public-police-records-dayton-ohio.html">public police records dayton ohio</a> for fine and was on cell for law requirement and views before he was 12 groups state-administered. | | | Legally, many slaves show a afternoon or also a organization in the import representations. | | | Choi's times not originate from a double-barreled advertising of parliament and order. | | | Then, he refused to leave raid and soon became a large <a href="public-arrest-records-free-montana.html"><strong>public arrest records free montana</strong></a> under the blood mars battles. | | | Bell further alleged in his 2003 bias that a forged site access, couple 99-30210, was entered into the appeal time. | | | In early county, the video neighborhood denotes an limited material lead by a green. | | | Bedabrata's <a href="national-background-check-program-§-6201.html">national background check program § 6201</a> was born in dhaka and his holder came from faridpur. | | | Pentonville prison opened in 1842, beginning a police of finally increasing mastermind audiences and the occupation of sport as the many case of construction information. | | | Some documents engage in the profiling of naturae's property use, collecting the statistics of rolls visited. | | | </p> | [end of quote] NOW, I can see the section that contained the text, "Bell further alleged in his 2003...". Still unexplained is WHY this occurs. Presumably it's intentional. Jim Bell From: Oshwm <oshwm@openmailbox.org> To: jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com>; Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com>; "cypherpunks@cpunks.org" <cypherpunks@cpunks.org> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 12:12 AM Subject: Re: Anyone familiar with SEO (Search Engine Optimization) techniques? I have a mystery. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Basically, right click in page, choose 'view source' from the menu and then search for Bell within the displayed text. There's your hidden text :) There's a bunch of 'metadata' in any web page used for controlling shit like this that is never visible on the actual web page. View source will show this. On 12 September 2015 07:53:57 BST, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
I found this partial explanation: http://www.seochat.com/c/a/search-engine-optimization-help/hidden-text-in-we... and http://www.seologic.com/faq/hidden-text and http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/hidden-text-website-34580.html and https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/66353?hl=en Jim Bell From: jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> To: Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com>; "cypherpunks@cpunks.org" <cypherpunks@cpunks.org> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:38 PM Subject: Re: Anyone familiar with SEO (Search Engine Optimization) techniques? I have a mystery.
From: Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 03:18:08 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
For those who can help, please do a Google search for 'Bell further alleged in his 2003'You will notice that there are MANY results that contain that phrase, but have something close to gibberish, before and after it.
>Weird. The search results I'm seeing (first page)
1) book titled "crypto anarchy" > 2) > http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/ridgefield-connecticut-p...
> 3) > http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/jail-records-vine.html
> 4) > http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/do-you-have-to-get-a-bac...
5) Jim's wikipedia article
> 6)
http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/indiana-state-police-re...
> 7)
http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/arizona-public-records-...
8) > http://www.vinnatur.org/wp-includes/service/free-website-to-view-criminal-re...
> 9)
http://www.vinnatur.org/wp-includes/service/free-criminal-records-bureau-uk....
> 10)
> http://culturesource.net/data/records/criminal-background-guidelines.html
> results 2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10 all go to the same spam page. I think you're wrong about that. It isn't "the same spam page". Rather, it is multiple copies of what amounts to (looks like, to the human eye) the same spam page, but located at different URLs.
> In other words, google is such an incredible piece of shit that
they can't even run a search engine? Again, I think you're wrong about that. I don't think Google has done anything wrong, here. Rather, I think that someone else has manufactured many pages which look alike to the human eye, but apparently contain hidden text that can be searched for and found. Google-search has simply catalogued the search results, including the otherwise-invisible text. (White characters on a white background can't be read by eye, but they can be read by Google-search.)
Some results are genuine, but most are apparently not. I suspect that I am the victim of some sort of SEO-techniques,
...that work against an IT company that rules the universe and > has a 'market cap' of 428 000 million dollars... Again, I think you're wrong. What I believe I have seen does not "work against" anybody, except possibly me. Google is simply cataloguing the web pages it sees, as the person (or organization) that produced those pages intends. The only negative consequence, to Google-search, is that they have to catalog a few hundred kilobytes more of web-pages. That's no skin off Google-search's nose. And as far as I understand, the only tricky thing here is that text is present on these pages which cannot be read by a human. If I knew more about the Web than I do, I would probably understand how to adjust my web browser to display visibly what would otherwise be invisible text. The next question is, "what does this mean, and who produced this, and why?". I posted this query to find somebody who had experience in SEO techniques.
Jim Bell
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 It looks to me like they have just taken snippets of info from various other texts (probably legal/law enforcement relates sites) to use to raise their profile on search engines. They seem to be advertising a service for doing background checks on people so these bits of text may help with matching the search terms used by people who are looking for that kind of service. On 12 September 2015 08:48:42 BST, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay, I did this for one of the instances, , http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/public-property-records... and got (in part) the relevant section:
| <p>Raised in the killing of canoga park, he had a married adverse <a href="public-police-records-dayton-ohio.html">public police records dayton ohio</a> for fine and was on cell for law requirement and views before he was 12 groups state-administered. | | | Legally, many slaves show a afternoon or also a organization in the import representations. | | | Choi's times not originate from a double-barreled advertising of parliament and order. | | | Then, he refused to leave raid and soon became a large <a href="public-arrest-records-free-montana.html"><strong>public arrest records free montana</strong></a> under the blood mars battles. | | | Bell further alleged in his 2003 bias that a forged site access, couple 99-30210, was entered into the appeal time. | | | In early county, the video neighborhood denotes an limited material lead by a green. | | | Bedabrata's <a href="national-background-check-program-§-6201.html">national background check program § 6201</a> was born in dhaka and his holder came from faridpur. | | | Pentonville prison opened in 1842, beginning a police of finally increasing mastermind audiences and the occupation of sport as the many case of construction information. | | | Some documents engage in the profiling of naturae's property use, collecting the statistics of rolls visited. | | | </p> |
[end of quote] NOW, I can see the section that contained the text, "Bell further alleged in his 2003...". Still unexplained is WHY this occurs. Presumably it's intentional. Jim Bell From: Oshwm <oshwm@openmailbox.org> To: jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com>; Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com>; "cypherpunks@cpunks.org" <cypherpunks@cpunks.org> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 12:12 AM Subject: Re: Anyone familiar with SEO (Search Engine Optimization) techniques? I have a mystery.
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Basically, right click in page, choose 'view source' from the menu and then search for Bell within the displayed text.
There's your hidden text :)
There's a bunch of 'metadata' in any web page used for controlling shit like this that is never visible on the actual web page. View source will show this.
I found this partial explanation: http://www.seochat.com/c/a/search-engine-optimization-help/hidden-text-in-we... and http://www.seologic.com/faq/hidden-text and http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/hidden-text-website-34580.html and https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/66353?hl=en Jim Bell From: jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> To: Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com>; "cypherpunks@cpunks.org" <cypherpunks@cpunks.org> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:38 PM Subject: Re: Anyone familiar with SEO (Search Engine Optimization) techniques? I have a mystery.
From: Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 03:18:08 +0000 (UTC) jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
For those who can help, please do a Google search for 'Bell further alleged in his 2003'You will notice that there are MANY results
contain that phrase, but have something close to gibberish, before and after it.
>Weird. The search results I'm seeing (first page)
1) book titled "crypto anarchy" > 2) > http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/ridgefield-connecticut-p...
> 3) > http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/jail-records-vine.html
> 4) > http://www.snowcitycafe.com/assets/28115041/service/do-you-have-to-get-a-bac...
5) Jim's wikipedia article
> 6)
http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/indiana-state-police-re...
> 7)
http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/arizona-public-records-...
8) > http://www.vinnatur.org/wp-includes/service/free-website-to-view-criminal-re...
> 9)
http://www.vinnatur.org/wp-includes/service/free-criminal-records-bureau-uk....
> 10)
> http://culturesource.net/data/records/criminal-background-guidelines.html
> results 2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10 all go to the same spam page. I think you're wrong about that. It isn't "the same spam page". Rather, it is multiple copies of what amounts to (looks like, to the human eye) the same spam page, but located at different URLs.
> In other words, google is such an incredible piece of shit that
they can't even run a search engine? Again, I think you're wrong about that. I don't think Google has done anything wrong, here. Rather, I think that someone else has manufactured many pages which look alike to the human eye, but apparently contain hidden text that can be searched for and found. Google-search has simply catalogued the search results, including the otherwise-invisible text. (White characters on a white background can't be read by eye, but they can be read by Google-search.)
Some results are genuine, but most are apparently not. I suspect that I am the victim of some sort of SEO-techniques,
...that work against an IT company that rules the universe and > has a 'market cap' of 428 000 million dollars... Again, I think you're wrong. What I believe I have seen does not "work against" anybody, except possibly me. Google is simply cataloguing
web pages it sees, as the person (or organization) that produced those pages intends. The only negative consequence, to Google-search, is that they have to catalog a few hundred kilobytes more of web-pages. That's no skin off Google-search's nose. And as far as I understand, the only tricky thing here is that text is present on these pages which cannot be read by a human. If I knew more about the Web than I do, I would probably understand how to adjust my web browser to display visibly what would otherwise be invisible text. The next question is, "what does this mean, and who produced this, and why?". I posted
On 12 September 2015 07:53:57 BST, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote: that the this
query to find somebody who had experience in SEO techniques.
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On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 07:48:42AM +0000, jim bell wrote:
Okay, I did this for one of the instances, , http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/public-property-records... and got (in part) the relevant section:
Consider checking the source of the cached google page (if any). Website need not serve the same page to you and google. Also, IMHO if the text is obfuscated such a simple search might not work, not entirely sure. I _suspect_ something remotely similar to yours happened to me in the past.
On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 12:08:03 +0300 Georgi Guninski <guninski@guninski.com> wrote:
On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 07:48:42AM +0000, jim bell wrote:
Okay, I did this for one of the instances, , http://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/public-property-records... and got (in part) the relevant section:
Consider checking the source of the cached google page (if any). Website need not serve the same page to you and google.
yeah that seems to be the trick http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:aSXFrILkxm8J:buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-includes/service/public-property-records-fairbanks-alaska.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us the cached version does have Jim's search terms.
Also, IMHO if the text is obfuscated such a simple search might not work, not entirely sure.
I _suspect_ something remotely similar to yours happened to me in the past.
On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 06:23:05AM -0300, Juan wrote:
Consider checking the source of the cached google page (if any). Website need not serve the same page to you and google.
yeah that seems to be the trick
the cached version does have Jim's search terms.
Consider also searching on https://archive.org/. It "keeps history of some interwebz" with many snapshots overy time. Your URL doesn't appear archived AFAICT.
Perhaps the spam websites need to hide only text that is "real" in the eyes of Google. And "Bell further alleged in his 2003" is "real" because it is in a book. It could have been text out of any other book, but it turned out to be you. Like winning the lottery, but in reverse. Perhaps you could analyze strings of the other hidden text to see if they too are from "real" sources. I come up with this hypothesis because years back I used to write web advertisements for an ambulance chaser law firm. They gave me the original text, e.g., "If you or someone you care about has been injured in an 18-wheeler accident in Atlanta, blah blah" and I had to write it six hundred different ways, e.g. "If you or someone you love has been hurt in a big rig crash in Atlanta, blah blah" Each version became its own URL. The text of each had to be different, the law firm told me, or Google would notice the similarities and penalize the websites for being spam. It was a boring gig so I livened it up by writing in metric prose - one sentence here in trochees, another sentence there in anapests, etc. So "real" text is valuable. That leads me to wonder, like a science fiction writer, how we could take this to extremes. Which text is the most "real"? What might the consequences be of variations in the degree of lorem ipsum texts' reality? On 09/11/2015 10:18 PM, jim bell wrote:
For those who can help, please do a Google search for 'Bell further alleged in his 2003' You will notice that there are MANY results that contain that phrase, but have something close to gibberish, before and after it. Some results are genuine, but most are apparently not. I suspect that I am the victim of some sort of SEO-techniques, attempting to cover up the fact of the fake, forged appeal case 99-30210. I suspect that the following company had something to do with it: http://www.icmconsulting.com/seo.html See, for instance, http://www.simcoehall.com/service/background-check-expunged.html Jim Bell
On 12/09/15 12:48, jim bell wrote:
For those who can help, please do a Google search for 'Bell further alleged in his 2003' You will notice that there are MANY results that contain that phrase, but have something close to gibberish, before and after it. Some results are genuine, but most are apparently not. I suspect that I am the victim of some sort of SEO-techniques, attempting to cover up the fact of the fake, forged appeal case 99-30210. I suspect that the following company had something to do with it: http://www.icmconsulting.com/seo.html See, for instance, http://www.simcoehall.com/service/background-check-expunged.html Jim Bell
That doesn't look like applied SEO techiques rather than a nasty hack or some kind of ad-click fraud. These domains don't have an apparent relationship; maybe the owners of the piggybacked pages/domains have no idea what's going on. Not even the first domain on the following list: Name: instantcheckmate.net Address: 184.168.221.23 http://iplocationtools.com/184.168.221.23.html Registrant Name: Registration Private Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com Name: snowcitycafe.com Address: 50.112.255.20 http://iplocationtools.com/50.112.255.20.html Registrant Name: Anna Premo Registrant Organization: Snow City Cafe Name: buriedwithoutceremony.com Address: 72.18.132.73 http://iplocationtools.com/72.18.132.73.html Registrant Name: KEE SIAK CHAN Registrant Organization: EXABYTES NETWORK SDN BHD Name: vinnatur.org Address: 213.186.33.82 http://iplocationtools.com/213.186.33.82.html Registrant Name:Angiolino Maule Registrant Organization:Associazione Vinnatur Registrant Street: Via Biancara 14 Name: culturesource.net Address: 67.210.98.210 http://iplocationtools.com/67.210.98.210.html Registrant Name: DELLA PERRY Registrant Street: 1150 W 11TH AVE
On Sat, 2015-09-12 at 03:18 +0000, jim bell wrote:
For those who can help, please do a Google search for 'Bell further alleged in his 2003' You will notice that there are MANY results that contain that phrase, but have something close to gibberish, before and after it. Some results are genuine, but most are apparently not. I suspect that I am the victim of some sort of SEO-techniques, attempting to cover up the fact of the fake, forged appeal case 99-30210. I suspect that the following company had something to do with it: http://www.icmconsulting.com/seo.html See, for instance, http://www.simcoehall.com/service/background-check-expunged.html
I don't think they are targeting you. It looks like, for better or worse, that phrase and the case number have become part of some "boilerplate" SEO spam or "Lorem ipsum." Congratulations, I guess...? There are "sewer rat" SEO consultants/firms use highly questionable techniques to game Google, Bing, and other search engines. I get spam for them all the time via a contact form on a personal site I'm about to shut down. Obviously, they cannot read the notice I've put on the contact form page. The best defense against this is may be to better advertise what they are trying to drown out with the spam, either intentionally or not. As a practical matter, two of the most relevant pages are the top two results. Is there something else you want to be sure is out there in regards to this, besides what's said in Isaak Crofton's book and Wikipedia? -- Shawn K. Quinn <skquinn@rushpost.com>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/12/2015 09:07 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: [...]
The best defense against this is may be to better advertise what they are trying to drown out with the spam, either intentionally or not.
Exactly. Google employs two contractors with an army of humans to review websites for "quality". Among other things they check for keyword stuffing, hidden text irrelevant to the site's content, etc.; on discovery, offending sites are de-rated and "sandboxed" so that only searches for the exact URL of the offender's site appear in Google search results. But an SEO contractor with hundreds of totally ignorant clients (i.e., hundreds of clients) can spread a well paid (or personal grudge based) suppression campaign like the one described across hundreds of domains to keep the spam alive and working. The distribution of "search spam" that is referenced here could be bad luck - some sleazy SEO contractor cut and pasted the text just because it was natural language and contained specific terms relevant to some of their customers' sites. Or, and IMO more likely, someone contracted to have the info in question removed from the Internet by poisoning search indexes. Either way, if you put up a web page that has the relevant text in it, that page should rise above the irrelevant crap in search results within a couple of months. The specific search terms you want to become findable should be included in an H1 header at or near the top of the page, and in the first paragraph. Naming an image on the page to include these words is an undocumented but effective trick. The same words and phrases should be included in the "description" meta-tag field of the page header. (The "keywords" meta-tag is ignored by search engines that use natural language analysis to categorize pages, i.e. all search engines today .) For best results, ask folks on THIS list (and elsewhere) to go out of their way to put links to your own counter-attacking page on their own websites, with search terms that have been poisoned by the SEO contractor as the visible text of the hyperlink. Links on a half dozen pages with Google page ranks of 2 or above can work wonders. Much as I hate to say this, setting up a Google Analytics account and adding their tracking code to your counter-attack page is a good idea, because pages with the analytics.js code will get crawled and indexed faster. People who "care about privacy" won't be affected because their browsers won't download or execute the javascript. A saboteur who has to hide his weaponized text from human website visitors (and the "owners" of the websites used) can't compete against well formed, visible text on pages that have lots of inbound links from "real" websites. Google is very up front about how most of their page indexing and ranking protocols work: http://www.google.com/webmasters/docs/search-engine-optimization-sta rter-guide.pdf :o) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJV9oKEAAoJEDZ0Gg87KR0LawwQAKyWsrRyYyg6DjrcFGD3lyPD Onk52V5NQAHTxEwcpxWk8u2K03V+onvQTFrbXgX7Fb84d5TEihsqsYnCb935C3nM goCQipskeIgpQ3+I0pe0AkvlcpYbyGATwYUPgKuquI6DDHMbjsGG/YnIXkc0GoY1 +rdmVqfOExWdlYndRjqUU7BlCNbemvn4M7jjkLhxzVYz2ZtgPj5PNztNltUXA+V/ y10th8tB6VTcXC4dUhZErm+gKycuvvGkRCXg3yZrW12I/siUoyTekSE5PtpYE0dg y6I0i9xmSrHS3XQ5VPwfXWbBHq+FLI3ClZORluxXmxkatWGXs0I7xoF3An8/tckK Poiayp4KyR3YDySDVjTT+WRmLRc6DDtq7AQmoQTS9WUd3Mtyw1QR+uOUc8MIYC6n tTpV8dByA1ps0Km8MVZ0qluxJNgeBSte0APCojzgJFJemEXjX1O1TXBC6O26iJyl 1QK0RsJE4RvqaL0qXgXDLhW2/UZPro20t0iHfP/W9xqP0L7GREA2fmFwq9xgW7W3 vh6Nr/YdU8A5KcXuZbVbUXEMrRy3w3e0xs4vUxeNel5d1ruqKHU+tvDJSLTqKsL0 zhS8UQsCW2Bv6jsX3UBhLZZEvGXjEGVidmYZedL9R9jMFADaeLpfnQ7eeDAlQHX5 V0a2kjTkWTvKjP6gKHfq =7USE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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