Scientists Run For Office (alongside Cpunks)
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 9:29 PM, Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
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Much on that stream including... https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/01/thanks-to-trump-scientis... Prof. Smith Goes to Washington In response to the new president’s stances on a range of issues, more scientists are preparing to run for political office. Darren Hauck / Getty For American science, the next four years look to be challenging. The newly inaugurated President Trump, and many of his Cabinet picks, have repeatedly cast doubt upon the reality of human-made climate change, questioned the repeatedly proven safety of vaccines. Since the inauguration, the administration has already frozen grants and contracts by the Environmental Protection Agency and gagged researchers at the US Department of Agriculture. Many scientists are asking themselves: What can I do? And the answer from a newly formed group called 314 Action is: Get elected. The organization, named after the first three digits of pi, is a political action committee that was created to support scientists in running for office. It’s the science version of Emily’s List, which focuses on pro-choice female candidates, or VoteVets, which backs war veterans. “A lot of scientists traditionally feel that science is above politics but we’re seeing that politics is not above getting involved in science,” says founder Shaughnessy Naughton. “We’re losing, and the only way to stop that is to get more people with scientific backgrounds at the table.” .........
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 02:39:55 -0500 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
the administration has already frozen grants and contracts
I doubt that's true. It would be great if those worthless scumbags and parasites, sorry I mean, Divine Scientists, didn't get 'paid' or didn't get any stolen funds, but it won't really happen. On the other hand I'm sure that the True Anarchists of this list, people like the rayzer, are horrified by the idea of The State not investing enough Resources on True Science.
by the Environmental Protection Agency and gagged researchers at the US Department of Agriculture.
Many scientists are asking themselves: What can I do?
And the answer from a newly formed group called 314 Action is: Get elected.
The organization, named after the first three digits of pi, is a political action committee that was created to support scientists in running for office. It’s the science version of Emily’s List, which focuses on pro-choice female candidates, or VoteVets, which backs war veterans. “A lot of scientists traditionally feel that science is above politics but we’re seeing that politics is not above getting involved in science,” says founder Shaughnessy Naughton. “We’re losing, and the only way to stop that is to get more people with scientific backgrounds at the table.” .........
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 05:11:25AM -0300, Juan wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 02:39:55 -0500 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
the administration has already frozen grants and contracts
I doubt that's true. It would be great if those worthless scumbags and parasites, sorry I mean, Divine Scientists, didn't get 'paid' or didn't get any stolen funds, but it won't really happen.
On the other hand I'm sure that the True Anarchists of this list, people like the rayzer, are horrified by the idea of The State not investing enough Resources on True Science.
Oh he'd probably suggest "murder on sight" of those particular scientists on a side of the debate he disagrees with ;/ Nothing like promoting murder of political dissidents ... on an alt-think "punks" mailing list.
/Nothing like promoting murder of political dissidents ... on an alt-think "punks" mailing list./
There I go digging through my JUNK mail again and seeing ignorant pieces of shit spewing Alt-think... Jeez. There's something alt about being reactionary? I did not know. Fascism isn't politics. It's a half-baked ideology based on REACTION to the tide of progressive social changes by governments... opposition to progress, as most of Uberto Eco's treatise on Fascism's eternal traits alludes, and as such Fascists can never be "political dissidents" because their 'dissidence' changes to suit whatever offends them about a given society at a given time. Like rats blocked by a new piece of building structure they can't chew through squeaking madly in the walls, that no one hears... until the filthy creatures poke their heads out of some hole, so the cat, who could hear it, can chomp it's lice infested head off. I want to be (have been) that cat... Rr On 01/26/2017 12:54 AM, the New Zealand SShitbird wrote:
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 05:11:25AM -0300, Argentine Spewing Scumbird wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 02:39:55 -0500 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
the administration has already frozen grants and contracts I doubt that's true. It would be great if those worthless scumbags and parasites, sorry I mean, Divine Scientists, didn't get 'paid' or didn't get any stolen funds, but it won't really happen.
On the other hand I'm sure that the True Anarchists of this list, people like the rayzer, are horrified by the idea of The State not investing enough Resources on True Science. Oh he'd probably suggest "murder on sight" of those particular scientists on a side of the debate he disagrees with ;/
Nothing like promoting murder of political dissidents ... on an alt-think "punks" mailing list.
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 07:43:10AM -0800, Razer wrote:
/Nothing like promoting murder of political dissidents ... on an alt-think "punks" mailing list./
There I go digging through my JUNK mail again and seeing ignorant pieces of shit spewing
Alt-think... Jeez. There's something alt about being reactionary? I did not know.
Fascism isn't politics. It's a half-baked ideology based on REACTION to the tide of progressive social changes by governments... opposition to progress, as most of Uberto Eco's treatise on Fascism's eternal traits
Ever read Umberto's novel "Focault's Pendelum"? I know you are into the Illuminatus Trilogy, based on some past quotes you've posted, it's got a similar vibe.. its a great fucking book! His ur-fascism treatise is great, and actually seems to me to be hilariously on-point with the current political situation.. a couple of his points - "The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition." "One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups." ".. root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia. But the plot must also come from the inside: Jews are usually the best target because they have the advantage of being at the same time inside and outside" see: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/
alludes, and as such Fascists can never be "political dissidents" because their 'dissidence' changes to suit whatever offends them about a given society at a given time.
Like rats blocked by a new piece of building structure they can't chew through squeaking madly in the walls, that no one hears... until the filthy creatures poke their heads out of some hole, so the cat, who could hear it, can chomp it's lice infested head off.
I want to be (have been) that cat...
Rr
On 01/26/2017 12:54 AM, the New Zealand SShitbird wrote:
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 05:11:25AM -0300, Argentine Spewing Scumbird wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 02:39:55 -0500 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
the administration has already frozen grants and contracts I doubt that's true. It would be great if those worthless scumbags and parasites, sorry I mean, Divine Scientists, didn't get 'paid' or didn't get any stolen funds, but it won't really happen.
On the other hand I'm sure that the True Anarchists of this list, people like the rayzer, are horrified by the idea of The State not investing enough Resources on True Science. Oh he'd probably suggest "murder on sight" of those particular scientists on a side of the debate he disagrees with ;/
Nothing like promoting murder of political dissidents ... on an alt-think "punks" mailing list.
-- John
On 01/26/2017 08:44 AM, John Newman wrote:
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 07:43:10AM -0800, Razer wrote:
/Nothing like promoting murder of political dissidents ... on an alt-think "punks" mailing list./ There I go digging through my JUNK mail again and seeing ignorant pieces of shit spewing
Alt-think... Jeez. There's something alt about being reactionary? I did not know.
Fascism isn't politics. It's a half-baked ideology based on REACTION to the tide of progressive social changes by governments... opposition to progress, as most of Uberto Eco's treatise on Fascism's eternal traits Ever read Umberto's novel "Focault's Pendelum"? I know you are into the Illuminatus Trilogy, based on some past quotes you've posted, it's got a similar vibe.. its a great fucking book!
I haven't despite the fact people keep recommending it. Mostly due to my seeming obsession with current events reading and digging the truth 'pepper' of the news 'fly feces'. Top of the list. Planning a trip to the Rocky Mountains this summer. Then East to visit some old Music/Radical friends on the East Coast ... may be a good time.
His ur-fascism treatise is great, and actually seems to me to be hilariously on-point with the current political situation.. a couple of his points -
"The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition."
"One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups."
Hehehe... Crisis IS business as usual for Capitalism. America has been experiencing "Disaster Capitalism" for decades now but the citizens are a lttle slow to understand it's intended to be that way by the economic elite. It takes time to break people badly enough to be desperate for an authoritarian totalitarian who will 'fix things' for them.
".. root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia. But the plot must also come from the inside: Jews are usually the best target because they have the advantage of being at the same time inside and outside"
Thanks for the link! For the longest time the full article wasn't available online at NYRB . Just a synopsis. It appears they've relented. PDF for your collection here: http://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_ur-fascism.pdf Rr
alludes, and as such Fascists can never be "political dissidents" because their 'dissidence' changes to suit whatever offends them about a given society at a given time.
Like rats blocked by a new piece of building structure they can't chew through squeaking madly in the walls, that no one hears... until the filthy creatures poke their heads out of some hole, so the cat, who could hear it, can chomp it's lice infested head off.
I want to be (have been) that cat...
Rr
On 01/26/2017 12:54 AM, the New Zealand SShitbird wrote:
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 05:11:25AM -0300, Argentine Spewing Scumbird wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 02:39:55 -0500 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
the administration has already frozen grants and contracts I doubt that's true. It would be great if those worthless scumbags and parasites, sorry I mean, Divine Scientists, didn't get 'paid' or didn't get any stolen funds, but it won't really happen.
On the other hand I'm sure that the True Anarchists of this list, people like the rayzer, are horrified by the idea of The State not investing enough Resources on True Science. Oh he'd probably suggest "murder on sight" of those particular scientists on a side of the debate he disagrees with ;/
Nothing like promoting murder of political dissidents ... on an alt-think "punks" mailing list.
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 07:43:10 -0800 Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
Fascism isn't politics. It's a half-baked ideology based on REACTION to the tide of progressive social changes by governments...
Fascism is the political system that created people like you. As a jew-kristian americunt you are a poster child for fascism. No wonder your main activiy here is to parrot US military propaganda. Notice also how you show your true colors every two sentences you spew. "tide of progressive social changes by governments" It's nice to know that your Anarchistic Progressive State is actually Progressive. No doubt you are the Master of Practical Americunt Anarchy. The bigger the 'progressive' state...the closer we are to marxist prophecy eh?
opposition to progress, as most of Uberto Eco's treatise on Fascism's eternal traits alludes,
Eco's 'treatise' was lovely. A typical example of an european 'progressive' opportunist licking the boots of his americunt fascist masters. Bottom line from eco : the italian fascists were not really bad (mussolini was a socialist after all), and when they realized that the americunts were the good fascists, they switched sides =)
and as such Fascists can never be "political dissidents"
and that's why fascists always parrot what the military tell them to parrot. Like , you know, when Real Arab Terrists attack your heimland rayzer.
because their 'dissidence' changes to suit whatever offends them about a given society at a given time.
Like rats blocked by a new piece of building structure they can't chew through squeaking madly in the walls, that no one hears... until the filthy creatures poke their heads out of some hole, so the cat, who could hear it, can chomp it's lice infested head off.
I want to be (have been) that cat...
Rr
On 01/26/2017 12:54 AM, the New Zealand SShitbird wrote:
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 05:11:25AM -0300, Argentine Spewing Scumbird wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 02:39:55 -0500 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
the administration has already frozen grants and contracts I doubt that's true. It would be great if those worthless scumbags and parasites, sorry I mean, Divine Scientists, didn't get 'paid' or didn't get any stolen funds, but it won't really happen.
On the other hand I'm sure that the True Anarchists of this list, people like the rayzer, are horrified by the idea of The State not investing enough Resources on True Science. Oh he'd probably suggest "murder on sight" of those particular scientists on a side of the debate he disagrees with ;/
Nothing like promoting murder of political dissidents ... on an alt-think "punks" mailing list.
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 02:39:55AM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/01/thanks-to-trump-scientis...
Prof. Smith Goes to Washington
In response to the new president’s stances on a range of issues, more scientists are preparing to run for political office.
Looks like someone going by the name Donald J. Trump made them look like amateurs: https://www.scribd.com/document/337471737/Proof-of-the-Riemann-Hypothesis-ut... Proof of the Riemann Hypothesis utilizing the theory of Alternative Facts Donald J. Trump January 24, 2017 Abstract Conway’s powerful theory of Alternative Facts can render many difficult problems tractable. Here we demonstrate the power of AF to prove the Riemann Hypothesis, one of the most important unsolved problems in mathematics. We further suggest applications of AF to other challenging unsolved problems such as the zero-equals-one conjecture (which is also true) and the side-counting problem of the circle. We determine the circle to have exactly 11 unique sides
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