On 01/26/2017 08:44 AM, John Newman wrote:

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 07:43:10AM -0800, Razer wrote:

/Nothing like promoting murder of political dissidents ... on an
alt-think "punks" mailing list./

There I go digging through my JUNK mail again and seeing ignorant pieces
of shit spewing

Alt-think... Jeez. There's something alt about being reactionary? I did
not know.

Fascism isn't politics. It's a half-baked ideology based on REACTION to
the tide of progressive social changes by governments... opposition to
progress,  as most of Uberto Eco's treatise on Fascism's eternal traits

Ever read Umberto's novel "Focault's Pendelum"? I know you are into the
Illuminatus Trilogy, based on some past quotes you've posted, it's got a
similar vibe.. its a great fucking book!

I haven't despite the fact people keep recommending it. Mostly due to my seeming obsession with current events reading and digging the truth 'pepper' of the news 'fly feces'. Top of the list. Planning a trip to the Rocky Mountains this summer. Then East to visit some old Music/Radical friends on the East Coast ... may be a good time.


His ur-fascism treatise is great, and actually seems to me to be 
hilariously on-point with the current political situation.. a couple
of his points -

"The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is
an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by
definition."

"One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the
appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an
economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened
by the pressure of lower social groups."

Hehehe... Crisis IS business as usual for Capitalism. America has been experiencing "Disaster Capitalism" for decades now but the citizens are a lttle slow to understand it's intended to be that way by the economic elite. It takes time to break people badly enough to be desperate for an authoritarian totalitarian who will 'fix things' for them.

".. root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot,
possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged. The
easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia. But the plot
must also come from the inside: Jews are usually the best target because
they have the advantage of being at the same time inside and outside"

see: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/

Thanks for the link! For the longest time the full article wasn't available online at NYRB . Just a synopsis. It appears they've relented.

PDF for your collection here: http://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_ur-fascism.pdf

Rr

alludes, and as such Fascists can never be "political dissidents"
because their 'dissidence' changes to suit whatever offends them about a
given society at a given time.

Like rats blocked by a new piece of building structure they can't chew
through squeaking madly in the walls, that no one hears... until the
filthy creatures poke their heads out of some hole, so the cat, who
could hear it, can chomp it's lice infested head off.

I want to be (have been) that cat...

Rr


On 01/26/2017 12:54 AM, the New Zealand SShitbird wrote:

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 05:11:25AM -0300, Argentine Spewing Scumbird wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 02:39:55 -0500
grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:

the administration has already frozen grants and
contracts

	I doubt that's true. It would be great if those worthless
	scumbags and parasites, sorry I mean, Divine Scientists, didn't
	get 'paid' or didn't get any stolen funds, but it won't
	really happen.

	On the other hand I'm sure that the True Anarchists of this
	list, people like the rayzer, are horrified by the idea of 
	The State not investing enough Resources on True Science.

Oh he'd probably suggest "murder on sight" of those particular
scientists on a side of the debate he disagrees with ;/

Nothing like promoting murder of political dissidents ...
on an alt-think "punks" mailing list.