http://pastebin.com/Wy98Q3TJ --- Email filter update. This is a list with trolls, troublemakers and other nuts mostly on the security mailing lists. Since I filter those the discussion is much more civil. And with far less conspiracies. mk@dee.su nadim@nadim.cc adrelanos@riseup.net l@odewijk.nl rysiek@hackerspace.pl @koplitz.net jerzyma@interia.eu theusernameiwantistaken@gmail.com eugen@leitl.org ruiz@iit.edu anonymous.coward@posteo.de njloof@gmail.com vladimir.teplouhov@gmail.com joebtfsplk@gmx.com silentswede2@gmail.com elrippo@elrippoisland.net electromagnetize@gmail.com coderman@gmail.com data@kuketz.de joseph@josephholsten.com an0n102968@gmail.com torance.ca@gmail.com risko@csl.sri.com jamesdbell8@yahoo.com jamesd@echeque.com author@anonymousbitcoinbook.com ricardcolorado@gmail.com kattitov@yandex.com themindwaregroup@gmail.com dahal.saurav@gmail.com maimun.rizal@googlemail.com muhammed_gokce@hotmail.com unknown@pgpru.com juan.g71@gmail.com mark.mccarron@live.co.uk crypto@jpunix.net waywardgeek@gmail.com ideasbuenas@gmail.com zen@freedbms.net scott@arciszewski.me K.Chambers@openmailbox.org blade.vp2020@gmail.com davidvargas1@mac.com lakbk89@gmail.com maestro@openmailbox.org riley@openmailbox.org shiretoko@web.de adfeno@openmailbox.org amenex@amenex.com calmstorm@openmailbox.org chaosesqueteam@yahoo.com christian@priest.com davesamcdxv@openmailbox.org gary02121993@openmailbox.org golyn@openmailbox.org jabjabs@fastmail.com.au janosch.adams@runbox.com lakbk89@openmailbox.org lcerf@dcc.ufmg.br mail@jadedfs.net marioxcc.MT@yandex.com myself600@opmbx.org noordinaryspider@gmail.com onpon4@riseup.net rafi.panoyan@hotmail.fr rainteller@eemajine.com t8mf4nu6lizp@canaglie.net thunderstormpolska@o2.pl tomlukeywood@fastmail.co.uk a1716479@trbvm.com cyrus_the_great@riseup.net gnorcie@umail.iu.edu kevinsisco61784@gmail.com whonixqubes@riseup.net afalex169@gmail.com andre76@fastmail.fm a.krey@gmx.de komachi@openmailbox.org ATorUser@mail2tor.com vitteaymeric@gmail.com art.istom@yandex.ru list@sysfu.com patrick-mailinglists@whonix.org mike@confidantmail.org martink@posteo.de luisg@riseup.net lynX@time.to.get.psyced.org tor@tengu.ch dewaj@garlic.com grarpamp@gmail.com burdges@gmail.com KevinB@ruggedinbox.com ter.one.leeboi@hush.com lpwzi9i84@use.startmail.com adrienj@adrienj.com domenico.andreoli@linux.com isacdaavid@gmail.com leemalek@Safe-mail.net mbm@rlogin.net mirimir@riseup.net tlbean@tlbean.com tbiehn@gmail.com torbirdyfoo@ruggedinbox.com aiwanski@cox.net zolar1@hush.com twim@riseup.net hha4491@web.de watau@t-online.de tim@teamsammut.com when2plus2is5@riseup.net schoen@eff.org mraboqht@gmail.com iznogoud@neomailbox.ch akademiker1@googlemail.com alexiswattel@gmail.com 123bltc@gmail.com barberb@barberb.com ben@bentasker.co.uk blobby@openmailbox.org BM-2cUqBqHFVDHuY34ZcpL3PNgkpLUEEer8ev@bitmessage.ch cinaed.simson@gmail.com darlingsuzy444@gmail.com domi3821@gmail.com drhardy84@gmail.com micaroni@gmail.com jgoltz@mail.nih.gov goofyzrnssm@vfemail.net beatthebastards@inbox.com jancsika@yahoo.com JS733NknRj6J@protonmail.com libertas@mykolab.com marcoskehl@hotmail.com max.o.bond@gmail.com michaelballriseup@gmail.com nasunorahl@gmail.com naz@gassiep.com paul@crable.us paul.syverson@nrl.navy.mil rekha13102@iiitd.ac.in rishabn.uci@gmail.com social@sponsor-privacy.com teor2345@gmail.com thomaswhite@riseup.net ---end-cut--- [ this encountered through paste crawlers searching for email addrs; not always indicative of a spill it turns out! ] best regards,
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 01:59:51AM -0700, coderman wrote:
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Email filter update. This is a list with trolls, troublemakers and other nuts mostly on the security mailing lists. Since I filter those the discussion is much more civil. And with far less conspiracies.
How comes I am not on the list? Almost all internet users consider me troll AND/OR nut. btw, this list doesn't include spies and the like, right?
I'm on there ;) *shrug* On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 6:56 AM, Georgi Guninski <guninski@guninski.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 01:59:51AM -0700, coderman wrote:
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Email filter update. This is a list with trolls, troublemakers and other nuts mostly on the security mailing lists. Since I filter those the discussion is much more civil. And with far less conspiracies.
How comes I am not on the list?
Almost all internet users consider me troll AND/OR nut.
btw, this list doesn't include spies and the like, right?
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Dnia piątek, 23 października 2015 08:35:34 Travis Biehn pisze:
I'm on there ;)
Hi-five! -- Pozdrawiam, Michał "rysiek" Woźniak Zmieniam klucz GPG :: http://rys.io/pl/147 GPG Key Transition :: http://rys.io/en/147
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btw, this list doesn't include spies and the like, right?
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 01:59:51 -0700, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
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Email filter update. This is a list with trolls, troublemakers and other nuts mostly on the security mailing lists. Since I filter those the discussion is much more civil. And with far less conspiracies.
Pondering the meaning seeing as how OP's own email address is included in the list. Now that's meta-trolling if I ever dun seen it.
& eugen@leitl.org, notorious troll. On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Seth <list@sysfu.com> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 01:59:51 -0700, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
---
Email filter update. This is a list with trolls, troublemakers and other nuts mostly on the security mailing lists. Since I filter those the discussion is much more civil. And with far less conspiracies.
Pondering the meaning seeing as how OP's own email address is included in the list.
Now that's meta-trolling if I ever dun seen it.
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On October 23, 2015 9:15:49 AM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:
& eugen@leitl.org, notorious troll.
(I thought it was a joke/troll post & initially ignored it.) I noticed eugen, too! Wtf, codermange? Jim Fucking Bell is on there, but not Cari Machet. Riiight. -S
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Seth <list@sysfu.com> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 01:59:51 -0700, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
---
Email filter update. This is a list with trolls, troublemakers and other nuts mostly on the security mailing lists. Since I filter those the discussion is much more civil. And with far less conspiracies.
Pondering the meaning seeing as how OP's own email address is included in the list.
Now that's meta-trolling if I ever dun seen it.
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On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Shelley <shelley@misanthropia.org> wrote:
On October 23, 2015 9:15:49 AM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:
& eugen@leitl.org, notorious troll.
(I thought it was a joke/troll post & initially ignored it.)
I noticed eugen, too! Wtf, codermange?
Jim Fucking Bell is on there, but not Cari Machet. Riiight.
-S
I'm going to start publishing my own list of trolls & crazies, full of the most high signal people on lists - to exclude the type of people who apply e-mail block lists from unknown sources from those conversations. -Travis
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Seth <list@sysfu.com> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 01:59:51 -0700, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
---
Email filter update. This is a list with trolls, troublemakers and other nuts mostly on the security mailing lists. Since I filter those the discussion is much more civil. And with far less conspiracies.
Pondering the meaning seeing as how OP's own email address is included in the list.
Now that's meta-trolling if I ever dun seen it.
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From: Shelley <shelley@misanthropia.org> On October 23, 2015 9:15:49 AM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:
& eugen@leitl.org, notorious troll.
(I thought it was a joke/troll post & initially ignored it.) I noticed eugen, too! Wtf, codermange? Jim Fucking Bell is on there, but not Cari Machet. Riiight.
I have arrived!!!! ("NO ONE expects Jim Bell!!!!") (with apologies to Monty Python) Jim Bell
On October 23, 2015 12:11:27 PM jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Shelley <shelley@misanthropia.org> On October 23, 2015 9:15:49 AM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:
& eugen@leitl.org, notorious troll.
(I thought it was a joke/troll post & initially ignored it.) I noticed eugen, too! Wtf, codermange? Jim Fucking Bell is on there, but not Cari Machet. Riiight.
I have arrived!!!! ("NO ONE expects Jim Bell!!!!") (with apologies to Monty Python) Jim Bell
Now we just have to figure out how to fit your name into the Inquisition song! -S
On 10/23/15, Shelley <shelley@misanthropia.org> wrote:
On October 23, 2015 9:15:49 AM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:
& eugen@leitl.org, notorious troll.
(I thought it was a joke/troll post & initially ignored it.)
I noticed eugen, too! Wtf, codermange?
Jim Fucking Bell is on there, but not Cari Machet. Riiight.
<faint echo from my Faint Echo Oh-shit-o-Meter> Shit! SHIIIIIT!!! Just KNEW I should have kept my VMs on separate monitors WITH separate keyboards. Oh shit .. Oh shit .. Oh shit ... <sound of creaking flaw boards oddly reminiscent of a terminally A D D youth rocking back and forth in apoplexy>
On 10/23/2015 10:21 AM, Shelley wrote:
On October 23, 2015 9:15:49 AM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:
& eugen@leitl.org, notorious troll.
(I thought it was a joke/troll post & initially ignored it.)
What makes you think that it's not?
I noticed eugen, too! Wtf, codermange?
What makes you think that it's coderman's list?
Jim Fucking Bell is on there, but not Cari Machet. Riiight.
Maybe that tells you something, maybe not. What set includes Jim Bell and Paul Syverson, but not Cari Machet? Nothing coherent comes to mind.
-S
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Seth <list@sysfu.com> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 01:59:51 -0700, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
---
Email filter update. This is a list with trolls, troublemakers and other nuts mostly on the security mailing lists. Since I filter those the discussion is much more civil. And with far less conspiracies.
Pondering the meaning seeing as how OP's own email address is included in the list.
Now that's meta-trolling if I ever dun seen it.
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Shelly seriously take a look at yourself and do a fucking self critique your fucking ego is just bent - straighten your father fucking self out and unless you can make some fucking comprehensive logical steps stfu On Oct 24, 2015 5:52 AM, "Mirimir" <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 10/23/2015 10:21 AM, Shelley wrote:
On October 23, 2015 9:15:49 AM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:
& eugen@leitl.org, notorious troll.
(I thought it was a joke/troll post & initially ignored it.)
What makes you think that it's not?
I noticed eugen, too! Wtf, codermange?
What makes you think that it's coderman's list?
Jim Fucking Bell is on there, but not Cari Machet. Riiight.
Maybe that tells you something, maybe not.
What set includes Jim Bell and Paul Syverson, but not Cari Machet?
Nothing coherent comes to mind.
-S
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Seth <list@sysfu.com> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 01:59:51 -0700, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
---
Email filter update. This is a list with trolls, troublemakers and other nuts mostly on
the
security mailing lists. Since I filter those the discussion is much more civil. And with far less conspiracies.
Pondering the meaning seeing as how OP's own email address is included in the list.
Now that's meta-trolling if I ever dun seen it.
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Is this a call to resolve an Oedipal impulse.. Or are you referring to some inner 'father' manifestation? -Travis On Sat, Oct 24, 2015, 9:20 AM Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:
Shelly seriously take a look at yourself and do a fucking self critique your fucking ego is just bent - straighten your father fucking self out and unless you can make some fucking comprehensive logical steps stfu On Oct 24, 2015 5:52 AM, "Mirimir" <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 10/23/2015 10:21 AM, Shelley wrote:
On October 23, 2015 9:15:49 AM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:
& eugen@leitl.org, notorious troll.
(I thought it was a joke/troll post & initially ignored it.)
What makes you think that it's not?
I noticed eugen, too! Wtf, codermange?
What makes you think that it's coderman's list?
Jim Fucking Bell is on there, but not Cari Machet. Riiight.
Maybe that tells you something, maybe not.
What set includes Jim Bell and Paul Syverson, but not Cari Machet?
Nothing coherent comes to mind.
-S
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Seth <list@sysfu.com> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 01:59:51 -0700, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
---
Email filter update. This is a list with trolls, troublemakers and other nuts mostly on
the
security mailing lists. Since I filter those the discussion is much more civil. And with far less conspiracies.
Pondering the meaning seeing as how OP's own email address is included in the list.
Now that's meta-trolling if I ever dun seen it.
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On October 24, 2015 9:01:17 AM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:
Is this a call to resolve an Oedipal impulse.. Or are you referring to some inner 'father' manifestation?
-Travis
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015, 9:20 AM Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:
Shelly seriously take a look at yourself and do a fucking self critique your fucking ego is just bent - straighten your father fucking self out and unless you can make some fucking comprehensive logical steps stfu
I hadn't seen this, Travis - thanks for the laugh! (I don't make a habit of publicizing my own sieve script filters, heh.) It reminds me of a certain Terrence & Phillip song from the South Park movie. It involved uncles, though. -S
On October 24, 2015 10:19:24 AM Razer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 10/24/2015 08:54 AM, Travis Biehn wrote:
Is this a call to resolve an Oedipal impulse..
0;o
Can I watch? Will it be livestreamed?
It may be presumptive of me to say so, but - Cari really isn't my type. (The feeling is probably mutual!) -S
Dear travis I am an anti feminist but i started feeling like a fucker saying mother fucker all the time and ao i decided to call out the patriarchy of saying mother fucker by saying father fucker which sounds really fucked up ... in turkey i am yelled at for saying mother fucker and have had too many conversations about it ... it is the worst thing you can say in turkish language Language is alive and i like to fuck it Anymore questions? On Oct 24, 2015 6:54 PM, "Travis Biehn" <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:
Is this a call to resolve an Oedipal impulse.. Or are you referring to some inner 'father' manifestation?
-Travis
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015, 9:20 AM Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:
Shelly seriously take a look at yourself and do a fucking self critique your fucking ego is just bent - straighten your father fucking self out and unless you can make some fucking comprehensive logical steps stfu On Oct 24, 2015 5:52 AM, "Mirimir" <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 10/23/2015 10:21 AM, Shelley wrote:
On October 23, 2015 9:15:49 AM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:
& eugen@leitl.org, notorious troll.
(I thought it was a joke/troll post & initially ignored it.)
What makes you think that it's not?
I noticed eugen, too! Wtf, codermange?
What makes you think that it's coderman's list?
Jim Fucking Bell is on there, but not Cari Machet. Riiight.
Maybe that tells you something, maybe not.
What set includes Jim Bell and Paul Syverson, but not Cari Machet?
Nothing coherent comes to mind.
-S
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Seth <list@sysfu.com> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 01:59:51 -0700, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
http://pastebin.com/Wy98Q3TJ > > --- > > Email filter update. > This is a list with trolls, troublemakers and other nuts mostly on the > security mailing lists. Since I filter those the discussion is much > more civil. And with far less conspiracies. >
Pondering the meaning seeing as how OP's own email address is included in the list.
Now that's meta-trolling if I ever dun seen it.
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Cari, Your posts are way more coherent when you make an effort at using punctuation. Thanks so much for clarifying your point to the list. Warm regards, Travis On Sat, Oct 24, 2015, 1:44 PM Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear travis
I am an anti feminist but i started feeling like a fucker saying mother fucker all the time and ao i decided to call out the patriarchy of saying mother fucker by saying father fucker which sounds really fucked up ... in turkey i am yelled at for saying mother fucker and have had too many conversations about it ... it is the worst thing you can say in turkish language
Language is alive and i like to fuck it
Anymore questions? On Oct 24, 2015 6:54 PM, "Travis Biehn" <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:
Is this a call to resolve an Oedipal impulse.. Or are you referring to some inner 'father' manifestation?
-Travis
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015, 9:20 AM Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:
Shelly seriously take a look at yourself and do a fucking self critique your fucking ego is just bent - straighten your father fucking self out and unless you can make some fucking comprehensive logical steps stfu On Oct 24, 2015 5:52 AM, "Mirimir" <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 10/23/2015 10:21 AM, Shelley wrote:
On October 23, 2015 9:15:49 AM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:
& eugen@leitl.org, notorious troll.
(I thought it was a joke/troll post & initially ignored it.)
What makes you think that it's not?
I noticed eugen, too! Wtf, codermange?
What makes you think that it's coderman's list?
Jim Fucking Bell is on there, but not Cari Machet. Riiight.
Maybe that tells you something, maybe not.
What set includes Jim Bell and Paul Syverson, but not Cari Machet?
Nothing coherent comes to mind.
-S
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Seth <list@sysfu.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 01:59:51 -0700, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote: > > http://pastebin.com/Wy98Q3TJ >> >> --- >> >> Email filter update. >> This is a list with trolls, troublemakers and other nuts mostly on the >> security mailing lists. Since I filter those the discussion is much >> more civil. And with far less conspiracies. >> > > Pondering the meaning seeing as how OP's own email address is included in > the list. > > Now that's meta-trolling if I ever dun seen it. >
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On 10/24/2015 10:44 AM, Cari Machet wrote:
Dear travis
I am an anti feminist but i started feeling like a fucker saying mother fucker all the time and ao i decided to call out the patriarchy of saying mother fucker by saying father fucker which sounds really fucked up ... in turkey i am yelled at for saying mother fucker and have had too many conversations about it ... it is the worst thing you can say in turkish language
Language is alive and i like to fuck it
Anymore questions?
Yeah... Why "Fuck you"? Fucking is fun, stress reducing, and has so many other benefits, including monetary if you're so inclined. If you REALLY dislike someone it's more appropriate to say "UN-FUCK you!" RR
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/24/2015 03:29 PM, Razer wrote:
On 10/24/2015 10:44 AM, Cari Machet wrote:
Dear travis
I am an anti feminist but i started feeling like a fucker saying mother fucker all the time and ao i decided to call out the patriarchy of saying mother fucker by saying father fucker which sounds really fucked up ... in turkey i am yelled at for saying mother fucker and have had too many conversations about it ... it is the worst thing you can say in turkish language
Language is alive and i like to fuck it
Anymore questions?
Yeah... Why "Fuck you"? Fucking is fun, stress reducing, and has so many other benefits, including monetary if you're so inclined.
If you REALLY dislike someone it's more appropriate to say "UN-FUCK you!"
RR
Now y'all done set me off. Stand back, I'm a gonna RANT. I'm a think Cari would be right at home on the Group W bench, and I don't think anyone will call her "moral enough to join the Army and burn women kids houses and villages" after being listed as a troll and/or spammer on Cypherpunks. In the English language, every meaning of the word "fuck," except one, references violence or damage. I'm gonna fuck you up, he really got fucked over, they fucked us out of it, this fucking shit sucks. "Fuck you" is an expression of anger or challenge. Conversational use of the word "fuck" is commonplace in the military services and among economically and otherwise repressed minority populations, but much less so in "polite" society where all forms of routine violence are kept out of sight or at least have lace doilies on top of them. I have long held that the true meaning of "fuck" reflects a profound social psychosis, normalized through centuries of common usage and elaborate rationalizations, where sex IS violence. When the word "violence" is understood in the context of Anarchist or Libertarian ideology as "violation" of the personal integrity of another by force, deception or strategic subterfuge, numerous everyday examples of sexual assault, sexual repression and sexual exploitation come to mind. (Voice over, Eric Idle: "Now we see the violence inherent in the system!") I got no time for "Liberal Feminism" 'cause that word Liberal denotes a "loyal opposition" to Establishment institutions based on violence. Liberals complain politely to their rulers, and are kind to people they personally know, so it's not their fault if their path to personal comfort and security is paved with the bones of murdered children. The Women's Lib faction of the New Left complained rudely, and set their sights on personal power and dominance, vs. the mere comfort and security that their Liberal counterparts still aspire to: A "radical movement" with not one bad thing to say about mass murder as long as their favored team is doing it. The fall of Saigon and what came after provides a wonderful "teachable moment" in U.S. political history: A coalition of Pacifist using Joan Baez as their front man took out a full page ad in the Times, calling out Hanoi for carrying out massive purges in "south" Vietnam. A coalition of New Left groups using Hanoi Jane as their front man responded with a full page ad in the Times, calling out the Pacifists as counter-revolutionary running dogs and congratulating their comrades in arms overseas. I am an Emma Goldman and/or Simone de Beauvoir kind of feminist. I was apparently born to be an anarchist, and I like people, so this alignment is more or less inevitable. :o) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWLOovAAoJEDZ0Gg87KR0Lh90P+gIsAQxEkffTYxccy1LhG8wB 9I2W5tSgW1v+Umo6yKlVxfvzkxmTAXdSs4k0Xl9894yUDq8IWu7Bn1LeUZJSh+ph 8wIzqLRQnorTOZf7bX6uzmca5VW8cPnq09xD6OGAk1z2AkOid83BqVNUTKEtrz87 hfykVrETdeiSAkwUmgbSDyxuftsU9JHKYc8c3w9jEkzl+eJ3+xEON4JY1DQxvFsA WpWedYU4XEt+CRABQxQ5jYOUj16zlrzp/SDvNO3qVvPNANJQNkyA2/QnnzVbTMG2 +lkgU5t2/xH+He1HdxQNA/vnEFNG2jmnO0FP6g4RwpBYm4Hp0KYzXG0H0sR2AxH2 OEK8ZowfWGst/YAlkUC0nP6cuvHZaV4xC1BLoGXNPk2e23XqthZOAn8tcDYDfJW9 /Xa0I4bBrRvrP9liHuNFkoRt+o43x/NyYAt5rWwjsPDA68rFeB5uJo/LVEEfKOds gD6vMmH2L1r/nHH+/HBr9l45UaH8XcyIgH1NQ0uqH2xB1MbG05VHmMfwwEM/n5vy WuerS+M+gw+3i8AoYxTqIexa1rSPd6xlQXL+cQJPVyjZrEtPpggtaquIxXjMzedG lRW9BrA6U8xtgoEz+RTTgStU7BRcS+4Cpk2TzCeX35gd9TOj9mtJ+F/3PbY/OIiP Dsfq4kd/+eSPCPV00q1r =2Yoi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
There were no "Purges" in Vietnam. If you read ANY account of those alleged purges carefully what you'll discover is the article title says so, and the first paragraph says so, then the rest of the information is about the Laotian and Cambodian purges, which could have only happened with America's assistance in bringing (this will sound familiar) warlords who were willing to collude with the US to power in those countries. Don't drink the koolaid about the Vietnam War, and NEVER believe an alleged 'pacifist'. They DEPEND on you believing lies like "Vietnam - Purges" to continue the rationalizations that the US has EVER fought a 'righteous' international war. The pacifist need that belief as well, to to rationalize what was typically utterly ineffective action, if they ever really did anything at all, as the slaughter continued unabated for a decade or more. The US government is going to spend millions of dollars over the next decade to reinforce those myths too. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/28/the-pentagon-s-pathetic-vie... On 10/25/2015 07:41 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:
On 10/24/2015 03:29 PM, Razer wrote:
On 10/24/2015 10:44 AM, Cari Machet wrote:
Dear travis
I am an anti feminist but i started feeling like a fucker saying mother fucker all the time and ao i decided to call out the patriarchy of saying mother fucker by saying father fucker which sounds really fucked up ... in turkey i am yelled at for saying mother fucker and have had too many conversations about it ... it is the worst thing you can say in turkish language
Language is alive and i like to fuck it
Anymore questions?
Yeah... Why "Fuck you"? Fucking is fun, stress reducing, and has so many other benefits, including monetary if you're so inclined.
If you REALLY dislike someone it's more appropriate to say "UN-FUCK you!"
RR
Now y'all done set me off. Stand back, I'm a gonna RANT.
I'm a think Cari would be right at home on the Group W bench, and I don't think anyone will call her "moral enough to join the Army and burn women kids houses and villages" after being listed as a troll and/or spammer on Cypherpunks.
In the English language, every meaning of the word "fuck," except one, references violence or damage. I'm gonna fuck you up, he really got fucked over, they fucked us out of it, this fucking shit sucks. "Fuck you" is an expression of anger or challenge. Conversational use of the word "fuck" is commonplace in the military services and among economically and otherwise repressed minority populations, but much less so in "polite" society where all forms of routine violence are kept out of sight or at least have lace doilies on top of them.
I have long held that the true meaning of "fuck" reflects a profound social psychosis, normalized through centuries of common usage and elaborate rationalizations, where sex IS violence. When the word "violence" is understood in the context of Anarchist or Libertarian ideology as "violation" of the personal integrity of another by force, deception or strategic subterfuge, numerous everyday examples of sexual assault, sexual repression and sexual exploitation come to mind. (Voice over, Eric Idle: "Now we see the violence inherent in the system!")
I got no time for "Liberal Feminism" 'cause that word Liberal denotes a "loyal opposition" to Establishment institutions based on violence. Liberals complain politely to their rulers, and are kind to people they personally know, so it's not their fault if their path to personal comfort and security is paved with the bones of murdered children.
The Women's Lib faction of the New Left complained rudely, and set their sights on personal power and dominance, vs. the mere comfort and security that their Liberal counterparts still aspire to: A "radical movement" with not one bad thing to say about mass murder as long as their favored team is doing it.
The fall of Saigon and what came after provides a wonderful "teachable moment" in U.S. political history: A coalition of Pacifist using Joan Baez as their front man took out a full page ad in the Times, calling out Hanoi for carrying out massive purges in "south" Vietnam. A coalition of New Left groups using Hanoi Jane as their front man responded with a full page ad in the Times, calling out the Pacifists as counter-revolutionary running dogs and congratulating their comrades in arms overseas.
I am an Emma Goldman and/or Simone de Beauvoir kind of feminist. I was apparently born to be an anarchist, and I like people, so this alignment is more or less inevitable.
:o)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/25/2015 11:32 AM, Razer wrote:
There were no "Purges" in Vietnam.
IIRC there were, though of course not on a scale to rival Pol Pot & Co. However, that's beside the point: I was talking about Amerikan politics, not Asian history. :o) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWLPwzAAoJEDZ0Gg87KR0LSjEP/iwHMhkFcvN/b45Qrsk7RnYl qY4tFJbnS/ZSrqkm9eocuuHIg/8+D/rrEmINd++c3izkXI2UnnWcTpyaHx+W5VjC lP9h9CFFVIhmfxz1dZJAPE0I0QqlCMue+DCJZl+n2Wkh2dus5Y2klwzEOVdmWsNj ZE8Hs1joyz64dA8PKejcVtGgzDM2nXLRdMQ8xARb6mcIX5dZeRIMggMbe5V0vHrl HQcswqMcEXsWSxO/cx2aLRoLK4j5x8DQQum9j4j1K5CfvDsK2xZKnY9sTfyMrL7Z DSjp5JjKgxw0WubcqLJ9odWCLrVH9qKVVz28iES47de9tUyoQ47vzyoYFPTTxSQL xUqUhGqIOieGPbQ4QNAf0ftEF+qucmwKGEhZWfg+ZYWTu94tLdrQDQfQD3ER2U+o WrRQZWgEOLdEP16XknLAzQQQeoTXyrB+GwUY165Uj0QMvRle8fv4TAWgw7hmlH+g /SXYz7La/LZYiyenu2UZJJn+S0ZgbLeAL+wNOZEKpjBwd1TGSdjFi6XJiDIsnopu TEFBaXEZ5eK8DPwjVsZCXVEbNd4Rsu6x39f9ps/uFMdOwLn2UC30hNXvkTiaY4K1 ETxSuxamlaA1N684T1KEd3fNQegIxhqcRkA473zhpIIwf1rhhNRImChdnrsYWnAQ MYv+ibZ9KcFp7D/T3aF6 =ETZ8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 10/25/2015 08:58 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:
On 10/25/2015 11:32 AM, Razer wrote:
There were no "Purges" in Vietnam.
IIRC there were, though of course not on a scale to rival Pol Pot & Co. However, that's beside the point: I was talking about Amerikan politics, not Asian history.
:o)
I'm SURE the citizens of Vietnam took good care of their traitors... To the best of my knowledge there were never any government organized purges. What angry citizens might have done to Special Forces installed "Provincial Governments" and errant unfortunate ARVN soldiers does NOT qualify as a purge. What Amerika did to it's labor unionists in the early 1900s does though. America's politics DEPEND on the belief in "Righteous wars" and I'm here to say The US has NEVER fought one. It's a myth.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/25/2015 12:21 PM, Razer wrote:
On 10/25/2015 08:58 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:
On 10/25/2015 11:32 AM, Razer wrote:
There were no "Purges" in Vietnam.
IIRC there were, though of course not on a scale to rival Pol Pot & Co. However, that's beside the point: I was talking about Amerikan politics, not Asian history.
:o)
I'm SURE the citizens of Vietnam took good care of their traitors... To the best of my knowledge there were never any government organized purges. What angry citizens might have done to Special Forces installed "Provincial Governments" and errant unfortunate ARVN soldiers does NOT qualify as a purge. What Amerika did to it's labor unionists in the early 1900s does though. America's politics DEPEND on the belief in "Righteous wars" and I'm here to say The US has NEVER fought one. It's a myth.
War is public murder for private profit. I don't know of any counter-examples. Again we are up against a collective psychosis, normalized by a long history of public acceptance and elaborate rationalizations. Sometimes one sees Bad Guys vs. Worse Guys, but whenever it's Guys vs. Guys the best that can be accomplished is some amount of damage control. Everyone who takes up arms to settle the disputes of their rulers and de facto owners is a traitor to the human race as a whole. The "fog of war" has another name, propaganda, and all sides of every armed conflict write press releases to establish that their only motive is "necessary self defence," or the currently popular "responsibility to protect others." The other side of every armed conflict always started it, and the regular folks on the other side of that border deserve whatever happens to them because they failed to stop it. Too much factual information about war results in large numbers of people banding together to have a go at kicking the war machine to pieces. So never mind that "ain't gonna study war no more" crap; study the fuck out of war and encourage others to do likewise. :o/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWLROSAAoJEDZ0Gg87KR0LHiIP/RF+b27++6Y878biYXq9Rm3l ESPaQjmQ19B/o2TUPaWeqKdtxqpOburrzcVgqOLMxbOUn+JSIEkUkUghKTLprw+2 yU4jsILPI+vKMDJu0KO6zguQ2y4zh8/zqpppvXr1teUsgUlS5e1uWpq8R/YFWGT4 3lyftjCNnaGioWWsKLDqf2nx8DfczJ8vTo0qHAW5hJ+q8AZOtkksueRiOq1ghw9S zPBiBwKP7mRCL3kRa81sYmPZ5aDRAwE2TlQvw/Obixu3mSqzg/KGBV4FF2Ghd3DO FB8dZtD5g5bCfLIkZ3mivJ24pnBGgAIR+rWlxKSiaKC0qJBqli+dF8/rTJmPh4j7 Hng1DSGntLkXKKyg/DTsusyq3pSl5zVUQoPSX13/61sOkCPI+Rwlfy+rK5ebnmoF UN6Oq7/hgNNDNa+dE79rchWHG7A0dTdykhRpjFvUn4DddnPKfEMQzev+U1l/V7/S 9iqSzUtFItCtTeoYrPcgoB67TRs7kuUoZWrIHKZPPW3LuteKptcAp+bWAZiFfl+W Cg8npNxgFi/9Lzrp1O59etU9hmKpT97sD5FVXVTKA2aYdkx6N5yV4NJnmuoMxYNO Rb0LGZEUt/BpsHZzv5yxfpZJxvdzYtA0WqXEjvJCzYSNSTx9NWmpxK5kaqNu77ik p8+JRFhqUNJDCULbZIpk =ile9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
War is public murder for private profit. ... Everyone who takes up arms to settle the disputes of their rulers and de facto owners is a traitor to the human race as a whole. ... The "fog of war" has another name, propaganda
This. (Oh fuck, there I go fucking up my oneliner score again, might as well throw in a few fucks for good measure, as if I give a fuck, at least this next fuck from some other fucker might count as one more fuck to the good, lol...)
study the fuck out of war and encourage others to do likewise.
On October 25, 2015 11:07:13 AM grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
War is public murder for private profit. ... Everyone who takes up arms to settle the disputes of their rulers and de facto owners is a traitor to the human race as a whole. ... The "fog of war" has another name, propaganda
This.
+2
(Oh fuck, there I go fucking up my oneliner score again, might as well throw in a few fucks for good measure, as if I give a fuck, at least this next fuck from some other fucker might count as one more fuck to the good, lol...)
+1 more fuck, given for the greater good! (Seriously: I zoned out of that thread, but your points above are spot on and deserve to be QFT for other tl;dr such as myself.) -a netiquette offendatrix
On 10/25/2015 12:00 PM, grarpamp wrote:
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
War is public murder for private profit. ... Everyone who takes up arms to settle the disputes of their rulers and de facto owners is a traitor to the human race as a whole. ... The "fog of war" has another name, propaganda
This.
Yes, that!
(Oh fuck, there I go fucking up my oneliner score again, might as well throw in a few fucks for good measure, as if I give a fuck, at least this next fuck from some other fucker might count as one more fuck to the good, lol...)
study the fuck out of war and encourage others to do likewise.
So anarchists in fucking spain took up tanks ... and palestine ... buchunin organized serious shit -not sure if the human race is all that actually so... being an anti speciest and anti-anthropocentric i dont really see the level diffrrentiation as much as others I am totally clear that i can not engage empathy if i have such judgements about armed struggle to call it counter revolutionary ... should the spanish had committed mass suicide ... should the palestinians ? Math is a factor we only have so many functionalities to work with and until these functionalities are expanded more thru serious fucking profound massive work it cannot be different People are working to expand functionalities now and doing amazing work but there are many ways to dismantle the state i cannot shove one way into oblivion in my mind because i dont know everything so... each frame is different and to me respecting anothers frame is fucking anarchism and without the respect of the other aspect anarchy would be too weak or what would it even be? Not sure why you have to write specifically about me steve On Oct 26, 2015 3:34 AM, "Mirimir" <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 10/25/2015 12:00 PM, grarpamp wrote:
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
War is public murder for private profit. ... Everyone who takes up arms to settle the disputes of their rulers and de facto owners is a traitor to the human race as a whole. ... The "fog of war" has another name, propaganda
This.
Yes, that!
(Oh fuck, there I go fucking up my oneliner score again, might as well throw in a few fucks for good measure, as if I give a fuck, at least this next fuck from some other fucker might count as one more fuck to the good, lol...)
study the fuck out of war and encourage others to do likewise.
On 10/25/2015 05:08 PM, Cari Machet wrote: <SNIP>
I am totally clear that i can not engage empathy if i have such judgements about armed struggle to call it counter revolutionary ... should the spanish had committed mass suicide ... should the palestinians ? Math is a factor we only have so many functionalities to work with and until these functionalities are expanded more thru serious fucking profound massive work it cannot be different
People are working to expand functionalities now and doing amazing work but there are many ways to dismantle the state i cannot shove one way into oblivion in my mind because i dont know everything so... each frame is different and to me respecting anothers frame is fucking anarchism and without the respect of the other aspect anarchy would be too weak or what would it even be?
I make my own decisions about fighting. I read "settle the disputes of their rulers and de facto owners" to mean fighting for them, out of loyalty, fear or whatever. That's distinct from fighting against them. More generally, I believe in nonaggression, and self defense.
Not sure why you have to write specifically about me steve On Oct 26, 2015 3:34 AM, "Mirimir" <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 10/25/2015 12:00 PM, grarpamp wrote:
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
War is public murder for private profit. ... Everyone who takes up arms to settle the disputes of their rulers and de facto owners is a traitor to the human race as a whole. ... The "fog of war" has another name, propaganda
This.
Yes, that!
(Oh fuck, there I go fucking up my oneliner score again, might as well throw in a few fucks for good measure, as if I give a fuck, at least this next fuck from some other fucker might count as one more fuck to the good, lol...)
study the fuck out of war and encourage others to do likewise.
BTW, Vietnam did NOT 'win the war'. In the early 1990s I was listening on shortwave to a relatively rare and very weak signaled Voice of Vietnam broadcast in English (target nation unknown). Through the fade and static I was able to discern that the presentation in progress was an infomercial attempting to garner business for the recently rebuilt and de-mined port of Haiphong. They got the business alright. The destruction of Vietnam's infrastructure had the long term effect of driving them into the hands of their former enemies just to survive... Vietnam: From National Liberation to Trans-Pacific Vassal http://dissidentvoice.org/2015/10/vietnam-from-national-liberation-to-trans-... On 10/25/2015 10:38 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:
On 10/25/2015 12:21 PM, Razer wrote:
On 10/25/2015 08:58 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:
On 10/25/2015 11:32 AM, Razer wrote:
There were no "Purges" in Vietnam.
IIRC there were, though of course not on a scale to rival Pol Pot & Co. However, that's beside the point: I was talking about Amerikan politics, not Asian history.
:o)
I'm SURE the citizens of Vietnam took good care of their traitors... To the best of my knowledge there were never any government organized purges. What angry citizens might have done to Special Forces installed "Provincial Governments" and errant unfortunate ARVN soldiers does NOT qualify as a purge. What Amerika did to it's labor unionists in the early 1900s does though. America's politics DEPEND on the belief in "Righteous wars" and I'm here to say The US has NEVER fought one. It's a myth.
War is public murder for private profit. I don't know of any counter-examples. Again we are up against a collective psychosis, normalized by a long history of public acceptance and elaborate rationalizations. Sometimes one sees Bad Guys vs. Worse Guys, but whenever it's Guys vs. Guys the best that can be accomplished is some amount of damage control. Everyone who takes up arms to settle the disputes of their rulers and de facto owners is a traitor to the human race as a whole.
The "fog of war" has another name, propaganda, and all sides of every armed conflict write press releases to establish that their only motive is "necessary self defence," or the currently popular "responsibility to protect others." The other side of every armed conflict always started it, and the regular folks on the other side of that border deserve whatever happens to them because they failed to stop it.
Too much factual information about war results in large numbers of people banding together to have a go at kicking the war machine to pieces. So never mind that "ain't gonna study war no more" crap; study the fuck out of war and encourage others to do likewise.
:o/
On 10/25/15, Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
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On 10/25/2015 12:21 PM, Razer wrote:
On 10/25/2015 08:58 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:
On 10/25/2015 11:32 AM, Razer wrote:
There were no "Purges" in Vietnam.
IIRC there were, though of course not on a scale to rival Pol Pot & Co. However, that's beside the point: I was talking about Amerikan politics, not Asian history.
:o)
I'm SURE the citizens of Vietnam took good care of their traitors... To the best of my knowledge there were never any government organized purges. What angry citizens might have done to Special Forces installed "Provincial Governments" and errant unfortunate ARVN soldiers does NOT qualify as a purge. What Amerika did to it's labor unionists in the early 1900s does though. America's politics DEPEND on the belief in "Righteous wars" and I'm here to say The US has NEVER fought one. It's a myth.
War is public murder for private profit. I don't know of any counter-examples. Again we are up against a collective psychosis, normalized by a long history of public acceptance and elaborate rationalizations. Sometimes one sees Bad Guys vs. Worse Guys, but whenever it's Guys vs. Guys the best that can be accomplished is some amount of damage control. Everyone who takes up arms to settle the disputes of their rulers and de facto owners is a traitor to the human race as a whole.
The challenge is how to spread such a meme effectively, powerfully. Then perhaps there'd be a hope that people would take up arms against their owners, or at least in defence of their families (I've posted the post Hurricane Katrina illegal weapons confiscations by federal military - no one, NO ONE failed to give up their arms (although TBH I cannot of course speak to those who denied they had any guns in their respective home - would love to see some true stories of humans with spines, balls and ovaries!)) And since Credit River Decision, no judge will take up a ruling against the banks. And since the machine gun slaughter of the early unionists, as you hint at above, all unions have fallen to infiltration/ corruption in relatively short order. FUCK it's a fucked up world! Juan, PLEASE tell me there's a better one somewhere, somehow?
The "fog of war" has another name, propaganda, and all sides of every armed conflict write press releases to establish that their only motive is "necessary self defence," or the currently popular "responsibility to protect others." The other side of every armed conflict always started it, and the regular folks on the other side of that border deserve whatever happens to them because they failed to stop it.
Too much factual information about war results in large numbers of people banding together to have a go at kicking the war machine to pieces. So never mind that "ain't gonna study war no more" crap; study the fuck out of war and encourage others to do likewise.
ACK! Fuck the fucken war cause that fucken fucker's a fucking fucked up death fest of evil. Z
I do agree with steve that the use of the word fuck is a exploitation or degradation of sex/love which is not that great We need new words There have been psyche tests on using swear words ... that is benificial to the psyche as a sort of release ... some fri3nds of mine that are autistic find using them to be really helpful but which words using is important I have 2 friends that had a giant fight about this very thing - one woman was dutch one american - the dutch hated that the new yorker said fuck and the new yorker hated and argued against the dutch woman using the word cunt - which is very common in dutch culture - the giant fight was the demise of their friendship The dutch stated using fuck was degrading to love The new yorker stated using cunt was degrading to women The dutch said degrading love was far worse than degrading women <3 On Oct 26, 2015 4:48 AM, "Zenaan Harkness" <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
On 10/25/15, Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
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On 10/25/2015 12:21 PM, Razer wrote:
On 10/25/2015 08:58 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:
On 10/25/2015 11:32 AM, Razer wrote:
There were no "Purges" in Vietnam.
IIRC there were, though of course not on a scale to rival Pol Pot & Co. However, that's beside the point: I was talking about Amerikan politics, not Asian history.
:o)
I'm SURE the citizens of Vietnam took good care of their traitors... To the best of my knowledge there were never any government organized purges. What angry citizens might have done to Special Forces installed "Provincial Governments" and errant unfortunate ARVN soldiers does NOT qualify as a purge. What Amerika did to it's labor unionists in the early 1900s does though. America's politics DEPEND on the belief in "Righteous wars" and I'm here to say The US has NEVER fought one. It's a myth.
War is public murder for private profit. I don't know of any counter-examples. Again we are up against a collective psychosis, normalized by a long history of public acceptance and elaborate rationalizations. Sometimes one sees Bad Guys vs. Worse Guys, but whenever it's Guys vs. Guys the best that can be accomplished is some amount of damage control. Everyone who takes up arms to settle the disputes of their rulers and de facto owners is a traitor to the human race as a whole.
The challenge is how to spread such a meme effectively, powerfully.
Then perhaps there'd be a hope that people would take up arms against their owners, or at least in defence of their families (I've posted the post Hurricane Katrina illegal weapons confiscations by federal military - no one, NO ONE failed to give up their arms (although TBH I cannot of course speak to those who denied they had any guns in their respective home - would love to see some true stories of humans with spines, balls and ovaries!))
And since Credit River Decision, no judge will take up a ruling against the banks.
And since the machine gun slaughter of the early unionists, as you hint at above, all unions have fallen to infiltration/ corruption in relatively short order.
FUCK it's a fucked up world! Juan, PLEASE tell me there's a better one somewhere, somehow?
The "fog of war" has another name, propaganda, and all sides of every armed conflict write press releases to establish that their only motive is "necessary self defence," or the currently popular "responsibility to protect others." The other side of every armed conflict always started it, and the regular folks on the other side of that border deserve whatever happens to them because they failed to stop it.
Too much factual information about war results in large numbers of people banding together to have a go at kicking the war machine to pieces. So never mind that "ain't gonna study war no more" crap; study the fuck out of war and encourage others to do likewise.
ACK! Fuck the fucken war cause that fucken fucker's a fucking fucked up death fest of evil. Z
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 03:25:47AM +0200, Cari Machet wrote:
I do agree with steve that the use of the word fuck is a exploitation or degradation of sex/love which is not that great
We need new words
Hm, is is "let rhinoceroses and hedgehogs fuck X" degradation of sex/love? AFAIK some Serbian curses using "fuck" border with criminal threats or worse.
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 10/23/2015 10:21 AM, Shelley wrote:
On October 23, 2015 9:15:49 AM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:
& eugen@leitl.org, notorious troll.
(I thought it was a joke/troll post & initially ignored it.)
What makes you think that it's not?
I noticed eugen, too! Wtf, codermange?
What makes you think that it's coderman's list?
Jim Fucking Bell is on there, but not Cari Machet. Riiight.
Maybe that tells you something, maybe not.
What set includes Jim Bell and Paul Syverson, but not Cari Machet?
Nothing coherent comes to mind.
As far as I've seen, Cari doesn't spread posts to crypto-specific mailing lists. This is a decent list of people to plonk if you're a cryptography researcher trying to keep up with the state of the art without being bombarded by tangential political in-fighting and vanity posts. If you do want to opt into the latter, you'd join cpunks. Mark
On October 24, 2015 7:21:27 AM Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a decent list of people to plonk if you're a cryptography researcher trying to keep up with the state of the art without being bombarded by tangential political in-fighting and vanity posts. If you do want to opt into the latter, you'd join cpunks.
Mark
And yet, here you are ;) It's okay, we have ample space to accommodate you here in the gutter. -S
On 24/10/15 16:02, Shelley wrote:
On October 24, 2015 7:21:27 AM Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a decent list of people to plonk if you're a cryptography researcher trying to keep up with the state of the art without being bombarded by tangential political in-fighting and vanity posts. If you do want to opt into the latter, you'd join cpunks.
Mark
And yet, here you are ;) It's okay, we have ample space to accommodate you here in the gutter.
I'm sticking with the gutter, much more interesting and has a bunch of people who give a fuck rather than being on the 'right' lists to prop up their career, cunts :D
-S
On October 24, 2015 8:28:08 AM oshwm <oshwm@openmailbox.org> wrote:
On 24/10/15 16:02, Shelley wrote:
On October 24, 2015 7:21:27 AM Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a decent list of people to plonk if you're a cryptography researcher trying to keep up with the state of the art without being bombarded by tangential political in-fighting and vanity posts. If you do want to opt into the latter, you'd join cpunks.
Mark
And yet, here you are ;) It's okay, we have ample space to accommodate you here in the gutter.
I'm sticking with the gutter, much more interesting and has a bunch of people who give a fuck rather than being on the 'right' lists to prop up their career, cunts :D
+1! I like your attitude, oshwm. Come sit in my corner of the gutter any time! -S
I am in love with you oshwm you are too smart On Oct 24, 2015 6:27 PM, "oshwm" <oshwm@openmailbox.org> wrote:
On 24/10/15 16:02, Shelley wrote:
On October 24, 2015 7:21:27 AM Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a decent list of people to plonk if you're a cryptography researcher trying to keep up with the state of the art without being bombarded by tangential political in-fighting and vanity posts. If you do want to opt into the latter, you'd join cpunks.
Mark
And yet, here you are ;) It's okay, we have ample space to accommodate you here in the gutter.
I'm sticking with the gutter, much more interesting and has a bunch of people who give a fuck rather than being on the 'right' lists to prop up their career, cunts :D
-S
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/24/2015 01:47 PM, Cari Machet wrote:
I am in love with you oshwm you are too smart
Always room for one more on the Group W bench. :D
On Oct 24, 2015 6:27 PM, "oshwm" <oshwm@openmailbox.org <mailto:oshwm@openmailbox.org>> wrote:
On October 24, 2015 7:21:27 AM Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com <mailto:marksteward@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is a decent list of people to plonk if you're a cryptography researcher trying to keep up with the state of the art without being bombarded by tangential political in-fighting and vanity
On 24/10/15 16:02, Shelley wrote: posts. If
you do want to opt into the latter, you'd join cpunks.
Mark
And yet, here you are ;) It's okay, we have ample space to accommodate you here in the gutter.
I'm sticking with the gutter, much more interesting and has a bunch of people who give a fuck rather than being on the 'right' lists to prop up their career, cunts :D
-S
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On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 15:13:35 +0100 Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com> wrote:
As far as I've seen, Cari doesn't spread posts to crypto-specific mailing lists.
So why block her.
This is a decent list of people to plonk if you're a cryptography researcher
So if you're a crypto 'researcher' (more than likely some kind of state parasite) you'd block the capo of the tor mafia, syverson? He's on the list too. People don't seem to have noticed. coderman's list doesn't make sense - and obviously it's not 'his' blocking list since he is on the list as well. coderman could have explained where the fuck the list came from, but he didn't and still doesn't. whoever put that list together is fairly retarded anyway.
trying to keep up with the state of the art without being bombarded by tangential political in-fighting and vanity posts. If you do want to opt into the latter, you'd join cpunks.
Mark
On 10/24/15, Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 15:13:35 +0100 Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com> wrote:
As far as I've seen, Cari doesn't spread posts to crypto-specific mailing lists.
So why block her.
This is a decent list of people to plonk if you're a cryptography researcher
So if you're a crypto 'researcher' (more than likely some kind of state parasite) you'd block the capo of the tor mafia, syverson? He's on the list too. People don't seem to have noticed.
coderman's list doesn't make sense - and obviously it's not 'his' blocking list since he is on the list as well.
coderman could have explained where the fuck the list came from, but he didn't and still doesn't.
whoever put that list together is fairly retarded anyway.
The post might be viewed as a successful boundary test exercise - 'can the folks at cpunks decide a deigned demonic deeming of a suggested sanctioned speech suppression block list?' The answer in this instance appears to be some oedipal intercourse.
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 15:13:35 +0100 Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com> wrote:
As far as I've seen, Cari doesn't spread posts to crypto-specific mailing lists.
So why block her.
She's not on the list.
This is a decent list of people to plonk if you're a cryptography researcher
So if you're a crypto 'researcher' (more than likely some kind of state parasite) you'd block the capo of the tor mafia, syverson? He's on the list too. People don't seem to have noticed.
It's one person's plonk list. Why insist that it agree with you?
coderman's list doesn't make sense - and obviously it's not 'his' blocking list since he is on the list as well.
coderman could have explained where the fuck the list came from, but he didn't and still doesn't.
He did, at the bottom of the original post. Mark
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 20:57:05 +0100 Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 15:13:35 +0100 Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com> wrote:
As far as I've seen, Cari doesn't spread posts to crypto-specific mailing lists.
So why block her.
She's not on the list.
You're right. My mistake.
coderman's list doesn't make sense - and obviously it's not 'his' blocking list since he is on the list as well.
coderman could have explained where the fuck the list came from, but he didn't and still doesn't.
He did, at the bottom of the original post.
And you're right again. So the list is just some random, nonsensical list, author unknown. (I, like Cari, don't post to any crypto list except this one and tor-talk. I'd guess then, the author is some tor-bot from tor-talk...except, what kind of retard would join tor-talk and block syverson?? LOL) J.
Mark
Fuck in this context means work with or shift ... now that shellys fucked up shit has made it so that my name has been massively over used and all my orifices have been inspected can we stop writing the word cari Read buckminster fuller and actually comprehend it then talk to me about my fucking writing form k?... get back to me in 5 or so years after reading bucky On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 20:57:05 +0100 Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 15:13:35 +0100 Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com> wrote:
As far as I've seen, Cari doesn't spread posts to crypto-specific mailing lists.
So why block her.
She's not on the list.
You're right. My mistake.
coderman's list doesn't make sense - and obviously it's not 'his' blocking list since he is on the list as well.
coderman could have explained where the fuck the list came from, but he didn't and still doesn't.
He did, at the bottom of the original post.
And you're right again. So the list is just some random, nonsensical list, author unknown. (I, like Cari, don't post to any crypto list except this one and tor-talk. I'd guess then, the author is some tor-bot from tor-talk...except, what kind of retard would join tor-talk and block syverson?? LOL) J.
Mark
"Fuck" is a VERY useful word. You can even construct a complete sentence with adjective, noun, adverb and verb from it: " ...fucking fucker’s fucking fucked." http://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n21/letters#letter4 ...which is all well and good if you're a motor pool mechanic in her majesty's army during WWII. RR On 10/24/2015 01:58 PM, Cari Machet wrote:
Fuck in this context means work with or shift ... now that shellys fucked up shit has made it so that my name has been massively over used and all my orifices have been inspected can we stop writing the word cari
Read buckminster fuller and actually comprehend it then talk to me about my fucking writing form k?... get back to me in 5 or so years after reading bucky
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 20:57:05 +0100 Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com <mailto:marksteward@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com <mailto:juan.g71@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 15:13:35 +0100 Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com <mailto:marksteward@gmail.com>> wrote:
As far as I've seen, Cari doesn't spread posts to crypto-specific mailing lists.
So why block her.
She's not on the list.
You're right. My mistake.
coderman's list doesn't make sense - and obviously it's not 'his' blocking list since he is on the list as well.
coderman could have explained where the fuck the list came from, but he didn't and still doesn't.
He did, at the bottom of the original post.
And you're right again. So the list is just some random, nonsensical list, author unknown.
(I, like Cari, don't post to any crypto list except this one and tor-talk. I'd guess then, the author is some tor-bot from tor-talk...except, what kind of retard would join tor-talk and block syverson?? LOL)
J.
Mark
On October 24, 2015 2:41:32 PM Razer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
"Fuck" is a VERY useful word. You can even construct a complete sentence with adjective, noun, adverb and verb from it:
" ...fucking fucker’s fucking fucked."
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n21/letters#letter4
...which is all well and good if you're a motor pool mechanic in her majesty's army during WWII.
RR
When I lived in Manhattan, I overheard the phrase "Fuck you, ya fuckin' fuck!" used more than a few times (usually having to do with traffic!) Fuck can be a useful word, I use it myself. But the language is so vast; creative insults are so much more satisfying, imho. -S
Dnia sobota, 24 października 2015 14:52:10 Shelley pisze:
When I lived in Manhattan, I overheard the phrase "Fuck you, ya fuckin' fuck!" used more than a few times (usually having to do with traffic!)
Fuck can be a useful word, I use it myself. But the language is so vast; creative insults are so much more satisfying, imho.
Use it loudly and proudly! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26UA578yQ5g -- Pozdrawiam, Michał "rysiek" Woźniak Zmieniam klucz GPG :: http://rys.io/pl/147 GPG Key Transition :: http://rys.io/en/147
LOL On Oct 25, 2015 12:43 AM, "Razer" <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
"Fuck" is a VERY useful word. You can even construct a complete sentence with adjective, noun, adverb and verb from it:
" ...fucking fucker’s fucking fucked."
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n21/letters#letter4
...which is all well and good if you're a motor pool mechanic in her majesty's army during WWII.
RR
On 10/24/2015 01:58 PM, Cari Machet wrote:
Fuck in this context means work with or shift ... now that shellys fucked up shit has made it so that my name has been massively over used and all my orifices have been inspected can we stop writing the word cari
Read buckminster fuller and actually comprehend it then talk to me about my fucking writing form k?... get back to me in 5 or so years after reading bucky
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 20:57:05 +0100 Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com <mailto:marksteward@gmail.com>>
wrote:
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Juan <juan.g71@gmail.com <mailto:juan.g71@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 15:13:35 +0100 Mark Steward <marksteward@gmail.com <mailto:marksteward@gmail.com>> wrote:
As far as I've seen, Cari doesn't spread posts to crypto-specific mailing lists.
So why block her.
She's not on the list.
You're right. My mistake.
coderman's list doesn't make sense - and obviously it's not 'his' blocking list since he is on the list as well.
coderman could have explained where the fuck the list came from, but he didn't and still doesn't.
He did, at the bottom of the original post.
And you're right again. So the list is just some random, nonsensical list, author unknown.
(I, like Cari, don't post to any crypto list except this one and tor-talk. I'd guess then, the author is some tor-bot from tor-talk...except, what kind of retard would join tor-talk and block syverson?? LOL)
J.
Mark
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 09:09:51 -0700, Travis Biehn <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:
& eugen@leitl.org, notorious troll.
Werd. At least have the common decency to break the address list down into each respective 'nut' 'crank' and 'troll' category, or maybe tag them accordingly if deserving of more than one label. Some people...
On 10/23/2015 09:50 AM, Seth wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 01:59:51 -0700, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
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Email filter update. This is a list with trolls, troublemakers and other nuts mostly on the security mailing lists. Since I filter those the discussion is much more civil. And with far less conspiracies.
Pondering the meaning seeing as how OP's own email address is included in the list.
Maybe coderman was just alerting us to the list.
Now that's meta-trolling if I ever dun seen it.
What's interesting maybe is what list members are not on the list. Georgi Guninski is not, but he's a fine upstanding nut ;)
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 01:59:51 -0700 coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
l@odewijk.nl rysiek@hackerspace.pl
paul.syverson@nrl.navy.mil
lolwut
no one reads anymore? [ not even to skip to the TL;DR. ... ] On 10/23/15, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
http://pastebin.com/Wy98Q3TJ ... ---end-cut---
[ this encountered through paste crawlers searching for email addrs; not always indicative of a spill it turns out! ]
spillage == data spills. specifically, if alerted to a spill with your info. P.S. tools to navigate through digital detritus, like this list, requisite for modern communication without overload. start today! :) best regards,
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