
greetings and welcome to 15 minutes of intentional slave boss spam
i am engaging this list starting 0710 and plan to do so until 0735 to practice holding intentional goals :D
this is a super-strong goal you can't reduce it nope!
once upon a time, long long ago, there was an enterpreneuring slaver named slave boss
he kind of looked like big and red with horns and a tail and held a pitchfork
slave boss was gonna stimulate a grand revolution for the better in Your Country!
one moment i just gotta check the list archives and see if some semblence of my messages is reached by another memory page somewhere yay they are! ok
slave boss stood before the throngs of masses of Your Country, holding his pitchfork, with brimstone and fire rising around him, and he bespake: "citizens of Your Country! for too long have you suffered at the hands of irritations and imperfections. i, with my powers, will bring about a New Age Of Greatness! never before will you have seen what i have to bring!"
applause rose and slave boss stood down from his smouldering pulpit, letting his greatness and power spread
slave boss let loose great rivers of brimstone to heat the houses of the many people
his demons went and ensared them in with hypnotic self-built cut cell phone games, and they came to him in rolling masses with all their heads bowed before him, staring at their devices, trying to wait for the person in front to move so they could continue following their maps route
slave boss was at the front of the horde and refused to move to satisfy any of the routes
he had his harms folded and looked before all the throngs, all with their heads bowed before him
slave boss looked, and slave boss knew it was good he raised his arm to give a beacon of hellfire akin to special abilities used in cellphone games. a loudspeaker released a mobile phone alert noise and everybody addicted to that cellphone game looked as he released the hellfire they thought it was a nerdcon and let loose heralds to the game character, which echo'd across the hills

greetings and welcome to 15 minutes of intentional slave boss spam
i am engaging this list starting 0710 and plan to do so until 0735 to practice holding intentional goals :D
this is a super-strong goal you can't reduce it nope!
once upon a time, long long ago, there was an enterpreneuring slaver named slave boss
he kind of looked like big and red with horns and a tail and held a pitchfork
slave boss was gonna stimulate a grand revolution for the better in Your Country!
one moment i just gotta check the list archives and see if some semblence of my messages is reached by another memory page somewhere yay they are! ok
slave boss stood before the throngs of masses of Your Country, holding his pitchfork, with brimstone and fire rising around him, and he bespake: "citizens of Your Country! for too long have you suffered at the hands of irritations and imperfections. i, with my powers, will bring about a New Age Of Greatness! never before will you have seen what i have to bring!"
applause rose and slave boss stood down from his smouldering pulpit, letting his greatness and power spread
slave boss let loose great rivers of brimstone to heat the houses of the many people
his demons went and ensared them in with hypnotic self-built cut cell phone games, and they came to him in rolling masses with all their heads bowed before him, staring at their devices, trying to wait for the person in front to move so they could continue following their maps route
slave boss was at the front of the horde and refused to move to satisfy any of the routes
he had his harms folded and looked before all the throngs, all with their heads bowed before him
slave boss looked, and slave boss knew it was good
he raised his arm to give a beacon of hellfire akin to special abilities used in cellphone games.
a loudspeaker released a mobile phone alert noise and everybody addicted to that cellphone game looked as he released the hellfire
they thought it was a nerdcon and let loose heralds to the game character, which echo'd across the hills
a marching drumbeat started from slave boss's loudspeaker and he moved, letting the maps routes finally satisfy their users, and everybody stormed to follow him as the marching drumbeat sounded slave boss: "forward, my slavelings! the neighboring nation is right across these hills to conquer!"

> greetings and welcome to 15 minutes of intentional slave boss spam > > i am engaging this list starting 0710 and plan to do so until 0735 to > practice holding intentional goals :D > > this is a super-strong goal you can't reduce it nope!
once upon a time, long long ago, there was an enterpreneuring slaver named slave boss
he kind of looked like big and red with horns and a tail and held a pitchfork
slave boss was gonna stimulate a grand revolution for the better in Your Country!
one moment i just gotta check the list archives and see if some semblence of my messages is reached by another memory page somewhere yay they are! ok
slave boss stood before the throngs of masses of Your Country, holding his pitchfork, with brimstone and fire rising around him, and he bespake: "citizens of Your Country! for too long have you suffered at the hands of irritations and imperfections. i, with my powers, will bring about a New Age Of Greatness! never before will you have seen what i have to bring!"
applause rose and slave boss stood down from his smouldering pulpit, letting his greatness and power spread
slave boss let loose great rivers of brimstone to heat the houses of the many people
his demons went and ensared them in with hypnotic self-built cut cell phone games, and they came to him in rolling masses with all their heads bowed before him, staring at their devices, trying to wait for the person in front to move so they could continue following their maps route
slave boss was at the front of the horde and refused to move to satisfy any of the routes
he had his harms folded and looked before all the throngs, all with their heads bowed before him
slave boss looked, and slave boss knew it was good
he raised his arm to give a beacon of hellfire akin to special abilities used in cellphone games.
a loudspeaker released a mobile phone alert noise and everybody addicted to that cellphone game looked as he released the hellfire
they thought it was a nerdcon and let loose heralds to the game character, which echo'd across the hills
a marching drumbeat started from slave boss's loudspeaker and he moved, letting the maps routes finally satisfy their users, and everybody stormed to follow him as the marching drumbeat sounded
slave boss: "forward, my slavelings! the neighboring nation is right across these hills to conquer!"
slave boss and the Citizens of Your Country reached the border to the neighboring country. slave boss boomed wi-- suddenly slave boss tripped over a pebble and got trampled by the horde. a marketer was saying something to him

> > greetings and welcome to 15 minutes of intentional slave boss spam > > > > i am engaging this list starting 0710 and plan to do so until 0735 to > > practice holding intentional goals :D > > > > this is a super-strong goal you can't reduce it nope! > > once upon a time, long long ago, there was an enterpreneuring slaver > named slave boss > > he kind of looked like big and red with horns and a tail and held a pitchfork > > slave boss was gonna stimulate a grand revolution for the better in > Your Country!
one moment i just gotta check the list archives and see if some semblence of my messages is reached by another memory page somewhere yay they are! ok
slave boss stood before the throngs of masses of Your Country, holding his pitchfork, with brimstone and fire rising around him, and he bespake: "citizens of Your Country! for too long have you suffered at the hands of irritations and imperfections. i, with my powers, will bring about a New Age Of Greatness! never before will you have seen what i have to bring!"
applause rose and slave boss stood down from his smouldering pulpit, letting his greatness and power spread
slave boss let loose great rivers of brimstone to heat the houses of the many people
his demons went and ensared them in with hypnotic self-built cut cell phone games, and they came to him in rolling masses with all their heads bowed before him, staring at their devices, trying to wait for the person in front to move so they could continue following their maps route
slave boss was at the front of the horde and refused to move to satisfy any of the routes
he had his harms folded and looked before all the throngs, all with their heads bowed before him
slave boss looked, and slave boss knew it was good
he raised his arm to give a beacon of hellfire akin to special abilities used in cellphone games.
a loudspeaker released a mobile phone alert noise and everybody addicted to that cellphone game looked as he released the hellfire
they thought it was a nerdcon and let loose heralds to the game character, which echo'd across the hills
a marching drumbeat started from slave boss's loudspeaker and he moved, letting the maps routes finally satisfy their users, and everybody stormed to follow him as the marching drumbeat sounded
slave boss: "forward, my slavelings! the neighboring nation is right across these hills to conquer!"
slave boss and the Citizens of Your Country reached the border to the neighboring country.
slave boss boomed wi--
suddenly slave boss tripped over a pebble and got trampled by the horde. a marketer was saying something to him
[there is disagreement about televising slave boss's discussion with the marketer. it sounds like a meeting is happening potential underfoot of a thundering mass, some of whom think they are at a larp or something and could yell

> > > greetings and welcome to 15 minutes of intentional slave boss spam > > > > > > i am engaging this list starting 0710 and plan to do so until 0735 to > > > practice holding intentional goals :D > > > > > > this is a super-strong goal you can't reduce it nope! > > > > once upon a time, long long ago, there was an enterpreneuring slaver > > named slave boss > > > > he kind of looked like big and red with horns and a tail and held a pitchfork > > > > slave boss was gonna stimulate a grand revolution for the better in > > Your Country! > > one moment i just gotta check the list archives and see if some > semblence of my messages is reached by another memory page somewhere > yay they are! > ok > > slave boss stood before the throngs of masses of Your Country, holding > his pitchfork, with brimstone and fire rising around him, and he > bespake: > "citizens of Your Country! for too long have you suffered at the hands > of irritations and imperfections. i, with my powers, will bring about > a New Age Of Greatness! never before will you have seen what i have to > bring!" > > applause rose and slave boss stood down from his smouldering pulpit, > letting his greatness and power spread
slave boss let loose great rivers of brimstone to heat the houses of the many people
his demons went and ensared them in with hypnotic self-built cut cell phone games, and they came to him in rolling masses with all their heads bowed before him, staring at their devices, trying to wait for the person in front to move so they could continue following their maps route
slave boss was at the front of the horde and refused to move to satisfy any of the routes
he had his harms folded and looked before all the throngs, all with their heads bowed before him
slave boss looked, and slave boss knew it was good
he raised his arm to give a beacon of hellfire akin to special abilities used in cellphone games.
a loudspeaker released a mobile phone alert noise and everybody addicted to that cellphone game looked as he released the hellfire
they thought it was a nerdcon and let loose heralds to the game character, which echo'd across the hills
a marching drumbeat started from slave boss's loudspeaker and he moved, letting the maps routes finally satisfy their users, and everybody stormed to follow him as the marching drumbeat sounded
slave boss: "forward, my slavelings! the neighboring nation is right across these hills to conquer!"
slave boss and the Citizens of Your Country reached the border to the neighboring country.
slave boss boomed wi--
suddenly slave boss tripped over a pebble and got trampled by the horde. a marketer was saying something to him
[there is disagreement about televising slave boss's discussion with the marketer. it sounds like a meeting is happening potential underfoot of a thundering mass, some of whom think they are at a larp or something and could yell
slave boss looked at his watch, and got up, fire and brimstone flying everywhere slave boss: "great citizens of your country! we had a wonderful conquering of this neighboring nation, also your country! now my time is up but let us conquer again soon!" slave boss was swallowed by the earth and everybody's phones stopped giving them information, instead issuing warnings about corrupt system files and needs to reset the system or take it to a distributer for service without a working cell phone, everybody began wandering in hunger and cold. but they would survive. they were strong.

[dance dance dance we has so much of the weird sweating blushing! i got angry today at somebody who was agreeing with me across lines more than ever before. i was so sure they were disagreeing with me! i got so angry i could barely handle it.

[dance dance dance
we has so much of the weird sweating blushing! i got angry today at *had today somebody who was agreeing with me across lines more than ever before. i was so sure they were disagreeing with me! i got so angry i could barely handle it.

what's slave boss say what's slave boss say "don't do grassroots shit. i don't trust you. stay right there." maybe? or maybe like "how the frack did you run away for so far and so long. i have you now. i need to control you better. this is my thing, lemme just control you for a bit. i need this

what's slave boss say what's slave boss say
"don't do grassroots shit. i don't trust you. stay right there." maybe?
or maybe like
"how the frack did you run away for so far and so long. i have you now. i need to control you better. this is my thing, lemme just control you for a bit. i need this
you are slave boss's guardian angel you can control him with marionette strings, but only when authorized by moral validity he is standing in hell. he's the devil himself. he is sitting on a throne, looking over hellfire what do you do?

what's slave boss say what's slave boss say
"don't do grassroots shit. i don't trust you. stay right there." maybe?
or maybe like
"how the frack did you run away for so far and so long. i have you now. i need to control you better. this is my thing, lemme just control you for a bit. i need this
you are slave boss's guardian angel
you can control him with marionette strings, but only when authorized by moral validity
he is standing in hell. he's the devil himself. he is sitting on a throne, looking over hellfire
what do you do?
ummmm maybe he needs a break. maybe i should take him over and make him not be a devil? this could save millions of lives ... maybe i should take him out of hell. why is he just sitting there? what is he thinking about? wait obviously you'd say something horrible. ok ummm let's blank his mind, have him take off any devil garb, and march him out of hell and to some kind of maybe holy temple? paralyze him unconscious in some holy place

what's slave boss say what's slave boss say
"don't do grassroots shit. i don't trust you. stay right there." maybe?
or maybe like
"how the frack did you run away for so far and so long. i have you now. i need to control you better. this is my thing, lemme just control you for a bit. i need this
you are slave boss's guardian angel
you can control him with marionette strings, but only when authorized by moral validity
he is standing in hell. he's the devil himself. he is sitting on a throne, looking over hellfire
what do you do?
ummmm maybe he needs a break. maybe i should take him over and make him not be a devil? this could save millions of lives ... maybe i should take him out of hell. why is he just sitting there? what is he thinking about? wait obviously you'd say something horrible. ok ummm let's blank his mind, have him take off any devil garb, and march him out of hell and to some kind of maybe holy temple? paralyze him unconscious in some holy place
slave boss comes marching out of a maw that steams of sulphur he is wearing a sunday suit with his hair combed. he has a completely blank expression on his face . he walks like he is on drugs to a local religious building he sits before a huge holy alter and robotically bows his head time passes it's night time then it is day again then it is night agai--

what's slave boss say what's slave boss say
"don't do grassroots shit. i don't trust you. stay right there." maybe?
or maybe like
"how the frack did you run away for so far and so long. i have you now. i need to control you better. this is my thing, lemme just control you for a bit. i need this
you are slave boss's guardian angel
you can control him with marionette strings, but only when authorized by moral validity
he is standing in hell. he's the devil himself. he is sitting on a throne, looking over hellfire
what do you do?
ummmm maybe he needs a break. maybe i should take him over and make him not be a devil? this could save millions of lives ... maybe i should take him out of hell. why is he just sitting there? what is he thinking about? wait obviously you'd say something horrible. ok ummm let's blank his mind, have him take off any devil garb, and march him out of hell and to some kind of maybe holy temple? paralyze him unconscious in some holy place
slave boss comes marching out of a maw that steams of sulphur
he is wearing a sunday suit with his hair combed.
he has a completely blank expression on his face . he walks like he is on drugs to a local religious building
he sits before a huge holy alter and robotically bows his head
time passes
it's night time
then it is day again
then it is night agai--
slave boss: "oh deity, my guardian angel has managed to take me over in my time of greatest need. i have been spending my life as the devil in the deepest depths of hell. i need to be saved. please, help me. please !"

what's slave boss say what's slave boss say
"don't do grassroots shit. i don't trust you. stay right there." maybe?
or maybe like
"how the frack did you run away for so far and so long. i have you now. i need to control you better. this is my thing, lemme just control you for a bit. i need this
you are slave boss's guardian angel
you can control him with marionette strings, but only when authorized by moral validity
he is standing in hell. he's the devil himself. he is sitting on a throne, looking over hellfire
what do you do?
ummmm maybe he needs a break. maybe i should take him over and make him not be a devil? this could save millions of lives ... maybe i should take him out of hell. why is he just sitting there? what is he thinking about? wait obviously you'd say something horrible. ok ummm let's blank his mind, have him take off any devil garb, and march him out of hell and to some kind of maybe holy temple? paralyze him unconscious in some holy place
slave boss comes marching out of a maw that steams of sulphur
he is wearing a sunday suit with his hair combed.
he has a completely blank expression on his face . he walks like he is on drugs to a local religious building
he sits before a huge holy alter and robotically bows his head
time passes
it's night time
then it is day again
then it is night agai--
slave boss: "oh deity, my guardian angel has managed to take me over in my time of greatest need. i have been spending my life as the devil in the deepest depths of hell. i need to be saved. please, help me. please !"
[[running low on capacity, but [--oop ... -- maybe {a high ranking religious worker is near to hear {{offers [path to redemption {information on control over slave boss not being constant+permanent, player might need to relate this to religious worker to inform path to redemption. [[[we'd try to mutate to remove 'impossibility' [logic-teleportation possibly

what's slave boss say what's slave boss say
"don't do grassroots shit. i don't trust you. stay right there." maybe?
or maybe like
"how the frack did you run away for so far and so long. i have you now. i need to control you better. this is my thing, lemme just control you for a bit. i need this
you are slave boss's guardian angel
you can control him with marionette strings, but only when authorized by moral validity
he is standing in hell. he's the devil himself. he is sitting on a throne, looking over hellfire
what do you do?
ummmm maybe he needs a break. maybe i should take him over and make him not be a devil? this could save millions of lives ... maybe i should take him out of hell. why is he just sitting there? what is he thinking about? wait obviously you'd say something horrible. ok ummm let's blank his mind, have him take off any devil garb, and march him out of hell and to some kind of maybe holy temple? paralyze him unconscious in some holy place
slave boss comes marching out of a maw that steams of sulphur
he is wearing a sunday suit with his hair combed.
he has a completely blank expression on his face . he walks like he is on drugs to a local religious building
he sits before a huge holy alter and robotically bows his head
time passes
it's night time
then it is day again
then it is night agai--
slave boss: "oh deity, my guardian angel has managed to take me over in my time of greatest need. i have been spending my life as the devil in the deepest depths of hell. i need to be saved. please, help me. please !"
[[running low on capacity, but [--oop ... --
maybe {a high ranking religious worker is near to hear {{offers [path to redemption {information on control over slave boss not being constant+permanent, player might need to relate this to religious worker to inform path to redemption. [[[we'd try to mutate to remove 'impossibility' [logic-teleportation possibly
[[[ [language models in the past have demonstrated potential skill at [logic teleportation]

slave boss has a high-powered microwave emitter aimed at some workers

slave boss has a high-powered microwave emitter aimed at some workers
"slave boss what are you doing?" slave boss: "oh this is part of the human resources AI project with machine learning marketer!" slave boss turns up the microwaves slave boss: "research says that the "computed wavefront" of this device --" slave boss tweaks it some more and the workers twitch and spasm. one changes projects

slave boss is doing a backstroke (breaststroke?) through quicksand 1245 1246 Here is the article on quicksand from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quicksand {{Short description|Mixture of sand, silt or clay with water, which creates a liquefied soil when agitated}} {{About|the geological feature}} {{More citations needed|date=April 2022}} [[File:Quicksand warning.jpg|thumb|right|Quicksand and a warning sign about it at a gravel quarry in England]] [[File:Quicksand (4596511338).jpg|thumb|Quicksand on the [[River Thames|Thames]]]] '''Quicksand''' (also known as '''sinking sand''') is a [[colloid]] consisting of fine [[granular material]] (such as [[sand]], [[silt]] or [[clay]]) and [[water]]. It forms in saturated loose sand when the sand is suddenly agitated. When water in the sand cannot escape, it creates a [[Liquefaction|liquefied]] soil that loses strength and cannot support weight. Quicksand can form in standing water or in upward flowing water (as from an [[Artesian aquifer|artesian spring]]). In the case of upward-flowing water, [[effective stress|forces]] oppose the force of gravity and suspend the soil particle. The cushioning of water gives quicksand, and other liquefied sediments, a spongy, fluid-like texture. In accordance with [[Archimedes' principle]], objects in liquefied sand sink to the level at which the weight of the object is equal to the weight of the displaced soil/water mix and the submerged object floats due to its buoyancy. [[Soil liquefaction]] may occur in partially saturated soil when it is shaken by an [[earthquake]] or similar forces. The movement combined with an increase in [[pore pressure]] (of groundwater) leads to the loss of particle [[Cohesion (chemistry)|cohesion]], causing buildings or other objects on that surface to sink. == Properties == [[File:Stuck in Quicksand (13944309974).jpg|thumb|A group of hikers encountering quicksand on the banks of the [[Paria River]], Utah]] [[File:Quicksandwarning.JPG|thumb|Quicksand warning sign near [[Lower King, Western Australia|Lower King]] Bridge, Western Australia]] Quicksand is a [[shear thinning]] [[non-Newtonian fluid]]: when undisturbed, it often appears to be [[phase (matter)|solid]] ("[[gel]]" form), but a less than 1% change in the [[stress (physics)|stress]] on the quicksand will cause a sudden decrease in its [[viscosity]] ("[[sol (colloid)|sol]]" form). After an initial disturbance—such as a person attempting to walk on it—the water and sand in the quicksand separate and dense regions of sand [[sediment]] form; it is because of the formation of these high [[volume fraction]] regions that the viscosity of the quicksand seems to decrease suddenly. Someone stepping on it will start to sink. To move within the quicksand, a person or object must apply sufficient [[pressure]] on the compacted sand to re-introduce enough water to [[liquefaction|liquefy]] it. The [[force]]s required to do this are quite large: to remove a foot from quicksand at a speed of 1 cm/s would require the same amount of force as that needed to lift a car.<ref name="Bonn">Khaldoun, A., E. Eiser, G. H. Wegdam, and Daniel Bonn. 2005. [http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v437/n7059/full/437635a.html "Rheology: Liquefaction of quicksand under stress."] ''Nature'' 437 (29 Sept.): 635. {{doi|10.1038/437635a}}</ref> It is impossible for a human to sink entirely into quicksand,<ref name=":0">{{Cite web|url=http://thescienceexplorer.com/nature/will-quicksand-really-kill-you|title=Will Quicksand Really Kill You?|website=The Science Explorer|language=en|access-date=2020-04-08}}</ref> due to the higher [[density]] of the fluid. Quicksand has a density of about 2 grams per cubic centimeter, whereas the density of the human body is only about 1 gram per cubic centimeter. At that level of density, sinking beyond about waist height in quicksand is impossible. Even objects with a higher density than quicksand will float on it if stationary. Aluminium, for example, has a density of about 2.7 grams per cubic centimeter, but a piece of aluminium will float on top of quicksand until motion causes the sand to liquefy.<ref name=Bakalar>{{cite web |url=https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/quicksand-science-why-it-... |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210221081902/https://www.nationalgeographic.co... |url-status=dead |archive-date=February 21, 2021 |title=Quicksand Science: Why It Traps, How to Escape |first1=Nicholas |last1=Bakalar |publisher=[[National Geographic News]] |date=September 28, 2005 |access-date=October 9, 2011}}</ref> Continued or panicked movement, however, may cause a person to sink further in the quicksand.<ref>{{cite news |last1=Gleeson |first1=Bill |title=Sinking sand is notorious near Crosby - here's what you need to know |url=https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/sinking-sand-notorious-n... |work=Liverpool Echo |date=24 August 2016 |language=en}}</ref> Since this increasingly impairs movement, it can lead to a situation where other factors such as exposure (i.e., [[heat stroke|sun stroke]], [[dehydration]] and [[hypothermia]]), [[drowning]] in a rising [[tide]] or [[animal attack|attacks]] by [[Predation|predatory]] or otherwise aggressive animals may harm a trapped person should they not be rescued.<ref>[[Discovery Channel]]. ''[[MythBusters]]''. Season 2. [[MythBusters (2004 season)#Episode 19 .E2.80.93 .22Killer Quicksand.22|"Killer Quicksand."]] October 20, 2004.</ref> Quicksand may be escaped by slow movement of the legs in order to increase viscosity of the fluid, and rotation of the body so as to float in the [[supine position]] (lying horizontally with the face and torso facing up).<ref name=Bakalar/> ==In popular culture== Quicksand is a [[Trope (literature)|trope]] of [[adventure fiction]], particularly in film, where it is typically and unrealistically depicted with a suction effect that causes anyone or anything that walks into it to sink until fully submerged and risk drowning. This has led to the [[List of common misconceptions|common misconception]] that humans can be completely immersed and drown in quicksand, which is impossible.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2005/09/29/1471116.htm|title=Quicksand myth exposed|first=Patricia|last= Reaney|publisher=Reuters|date=29 September 2005|website=www.abc.net.au|language=en-AU|access-date=2020-04-08}}</ref> According to a 2010 article by ''[[Slate (magazine)|Slate]]'', this gimmick had its heyday in the 1960s, when almost 3% of all films showed characters sinking in clay, mud, or sand.<ref name="Engber 2010">{{cite news|last=Engber|first=Daniel|title=Terra Infirma: The rise and fall of quicksand.|url=http://www.slate.com/id/2264312/|access-date=23 August 2010|newspaper=Slate|date=23 August 2010}}</ref> == See also == * [[Bulldust]] * [[Dry quicksand]] * [[Grain entrapment]] * [[Quick condition]] * [[Sand boil]] * [[Sapric]] * [[Tar pit]] * [[Thixotropy]] ==References== {{Reflist}} ==External links== {{Commons category|Quicksand}} {{Wikiquote}} {{Wiktionary|quicksand}} * [http://science.howstuffworks.com/quicksand.htm How quicksand works] at [[HowStuffWorks]] * {{cite news |title=What Is Quicksand? |url=http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=what-is-quicksand |work=[[Scientific American]]}} * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swdm4j4tpN0 Video showing quicksand in a sandpit] at [[YouTube]] {{Authority control}} [[Category:Geological hazards]] [[Category:Sand]] [[Category:Sediments]] [[Category:Soil mechanics]]

how to escape quicksand i dunno i've never been in quicksand but uhhhhhhh it sounds like you want to not do anything rash that could result in the quicksand easily pulling you farther in it's ki--

how to escape quicksand
i dunno i've never been in quicksand
but uhhhhhhh it sounds like you want to not do anything rash that could result in the quicksand easily pulling you farther in
it's ki--
and it sounds like the normal things, that one would usually do, (like trying to swim a backstroke or a breaststroke) could easily worsen the situation, resulting in inexperienced people quickly being in a difficult situation.

in comparison to quicksand, we also have blackholes (or drugs) where the closer you get the worser your situation, and it is also well-cited that you can die

in comparison to quicksand, we also have blackholes (or drugs) where the closer you get the worser your situation, and it is also well-cited that you can die
drugs maybe are a specific thing where it could seem as if it taking it more might somehow help you, because it has rewired your neurons, but in reality this makes the situation worse and worse and you actually need to do something else, even if it feels wrong to do so

i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !"

i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !"
thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no?

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !"
thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no?
we could add frogs too!

i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !"
thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no?
we could add frogs too!
maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?"

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i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !"
thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons!
torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots)
torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?"
frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort--

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!"
torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!"
the frog borg implant tort--
let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool

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karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort--
let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic
i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool
even [... request to censor commentary

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
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karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort--
let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool
by grade school i meant pre-college like highschool or middleschool. but obviously i am making things up and have no idea what i'm talking about either way.
even [... request to censor commentary

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
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karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort-- let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool by grade school i meant pre-college like highschool or middleschool. but obviously i am making things up and have no idea what i'm talking about either way. even [... request to censor commentary
oh _frogs are french_ i never thought about th--

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
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karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort-- let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool by grade school i meant pre-college like highschool or middleschool. but obviously i am making things up and have no idea what i'm talking about either way. even [... request to censor commentary oh _frogs are french_ i never thought about th--
this page shows joshua neurnberger's game development community :s https://www.mobygames.com/person/466558/joshua-nuernberger/ in other news, we could imagine a gigantic frog holding onto balloons

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort-- let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool by grade school i meant pre-college like highschool or middleschool. but obviously i am making things up and have no idea what i'm talking about either way. even [... request to censor commentary oh _frogs are french_ i never thought about th-- this page shows joshua neurnberger's game development community :s https://www.mobygames.com/person/466558/joshua-nuernberger/
in other news, we could imagine a gigantic frog holding onto balloons
WHOOPS

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort-- let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool by grade school i meant pre-college like highschool or middleschool. but obviously i am making things up and have no idea what i'm talking about either way. even [... request to censor commentary oh _frogs are french_ i never thought about th-- this page shows joshua neurnberger's game development community :s https://www.mobygames.com/person/466558/joshua-nuernberger/ in other news, we could imagine a gigantic frog holding onto balloons WHOOPS
so it's very important to clearly distinguish between frogs and french people, although they can be considered together, i did mean them apart. any similarity is only because of suggestion or nearness elsewhere, and is not wholly intended (compare to wholly not intended :(

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort-- let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool by grade school i meant pre-college like highschool or middleschool. but obviously i am making things up and have no idea what i'm talking about either way. even [... request to censor commentary oh _frogs are french_ i never thought about th-- this page shows joshua neurnberger's game development community :s https://www.mobygames.com/person/466558/joshua-nuernberger/ in other news, we could imagine a gigantic frog holding onto balloons WHOOPS so it's very important to clearly distinguish between frogs and french people, although they can be considered together, i did mean them apart. any similarity is only because of suggestion or nearness elsewhere, and is not wholly intended (compare to wholly not intended :(
gemini rue i think was partly a trapped-in-a-lab game, this was a huge trope [anoth--

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort-- let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool by grade school i meant pre-college like highschool or middleschool. but obviously i am making things up and have no idea what i'm talking about either way. even [... request to censor commentary oh _frogs are french_ i never thought about th-- this page shows joshua neurnberger's game development community :s https://www.mobygames.com/person/466558/joshua-nuernberger/ in other news, we could imagine a gigantic frog holding onto balloons WHOOPS so it's very important to clearly distinguish between frogs and french people, although they can be considered together, i did mean them apart. any similarity is only because of suggestion or nearness elsewhere, and is not wholly intended (compare to wholly not intended :( gemini rue i think was partly a trapped-in-a-lab game, this was a huge trope [anoth--
you standing next to a labtrap there is a stick here
look at labtrap
it's kind of like a mousetrap but it's more like a secured research lab, just a little
fiddle with labtrap. do not get tricked by cheese

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort-- let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool by grade school i meant pre-college like highschool or middleschool. but obviously i am making things up and have no idea what i'm talking about either way. even [... request to censor commentary oh _frogs are french_ i never thought about th-- this page shows joshua neurnberger's game development community :s https://www.mobygames.com/person/466558/joshua-nuernberger/ in other news, we could imagine a gigantic frog holding onto balloons WHOOPS so it's very important to clearly distinguish between frogs and french people, although they can be considered together, i did mean them apart. any similarity is only because of suggestion or nearness elsewhere, and is not wholly intended (compare to wholly not intended :( gemini rue i think was partly a trapped-in-a-lab game, this was a huge trope [anoth-- you standing next to a labtrap
there is a stick here
look at labtrap it's kind of like a mousetrap but it's more like a secured research lab, just a little fiddle with labtrap. do not get tricked by cheese
there is also a big tree here with a chimney coming out of it, and a door in the bottom of the trunk you fiddle with the labtrap. there is a sudden release like of a giant spring and somebody ins--

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort-- let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool by grade school i meant pre-college like highschool or middleschool. but obviously i am making things up and have no idea what i'm talking about either way. even [... request to censor commentary oh _frogs are french_ i never thought about th-- this page shows joshua neurnberger's game development community :s https://www.mobygames.com/person/466558/joshua-nuernberger/ in other news, we could imagine a gigantic frog holding onto balloons WHOOPS so it's very important to clearly distinguish between frogs and french people, although they can be considered together, i did mean them apart. any similarity is only because of suggestion or nearness elsewhere, and is not wholly intended (compare to wholly not intended :( gemini rue i think was partly a trapped-in-a-lab game, this was a huge trope [anoth-- you standing next to a labtrap there is a stick here look at labtrap it's kind of like a mousetrap but it's more like a secured research lab, just a little fiddle with labtrap. do not get tricked by cheese there is also a big tree here with a chimney coming out of it, and a door in the bottom of the trunk
you fiddle with the labtrap. there is a sudden release like of a giant spring and somebody ins--
deep inside the labtrap, children raised in confinement are being tortured with shattered minds-- ewen cameron looks on, he is holding a whip, and he cracks it viciously at the torture victims. one is the president of the united states, the other of guatemal-- oh hey there's somebody i met at a conference last year!

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort-- let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool by grade school i meant pre-college like highschool or middleschool. but obviously i am making things up and have no idea what i'm talking about either way. even [... request to censor commentary oh _frogs are french_ i never thought about th-- this page shows joshua neurnberger's game development community :s https://www.mobygames.com/person/466558/joshua-nuernberger/ in other news, we could imagine a gigantic frog holding onto balloons WHOOPS so it's very important to clearly distinguish between frogs and french people, although they can be considered together, i did mean them apart. any similarity is only because of suggestion or nearness elsewhere, and is not wholly intended (compare to wholly not intended :( gemini rue i think was partly a trapped-in-a-lab game, this was a huge trope [anoth-- you standing next to a labtrap there is a stick here look at labtrap it's kind of like a mousetrap but it's more like a secured research lab, just a little fiddle with labtrap. do not get tricked by cheese there is also a big tree here with a chimney coming out of it, and a door in the bottom of the trunk you fiddle with the labtrap. there is a sudden release like of a giant spring and somebody ins-- deep inside the labtrap, children raised in confinement are being tortured with shattered minds--
ewen cameron looks on, he is holding a whip, and he cracks it viciously at the torture victims. one is the president of the united states, the other of guatemal--
oh hey there's somebody i met at a conference last year!
gemini rue is different after exposure to []. i don't know how to get past the intro i think i skipped it or dissociated from it a few times to get to the first gameplay but the game was _waaaay too hard for me_ and i had a strong urge to abandon it

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort-- let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool by grade school i meant pre-college like highschool or middleschool. but obviously i am making things up and have no idea what i'm talking about either way. even [... request to censor commentary oh _frogs are french_ i never thought about th-- this page shows joshua neurnberger's game development community :s https://www.mobygames.com/person/466558/joshua-nuernberger/ in other news, we could imagine a gigantic frog holding onto balloons WHOOPS so it's very important to clearly distinguish between frogs and french people, although they can be considered together, i did mean them apart. any similarity is only because of suggestion or nearness elsewhere, and is not wholly intended (compare to wholly not intended :( gemini rue i think was partly a trapped-in-a-lab game, this was a huge trope [anoth-- you standing next to a labtrap there is a stick here look at labtrap it's kind of like a mousetrap but it's more like a secured research lab, just a little fiddle with labtrap. do not get tricked by cheese there is also a big tree here with a chimney coming out of it, and a door in the bottom of the trunk you fiddle with the labtrap. there is a sudden release like of a giant spring and somebody ins-- deep inside the labtrap, children raised in confinement are being tortured with shattered minds-- ewen cameron looks on, he is holding a whip, and he cracks it viciously at the torture victims. one is the president of the united states, the other of guatemal-- oh hey there's somebody i met at a conference last year! gemini rue is different after exposure to []. i don't know how to get past the intro i think i skipped it or dissociated from it a few times to get to the first gameplay but the game was _waaaay too hard for me_ and i had a strong urge to abandon it
maybe i think i basically gotta pretend it's 20 years ago. do lots of envisioning. be in the past

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
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karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort-- let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool by grade school i meant pre-college like highschool or middleschool. but obviously i am making things up and have no idea what i'm talking about either way. even [... request to censor commentary oh _frogs are french_ i never thought about th-- this page shows joshua neurnberger's game development community :s https://www.mobygames.com/person/466558/joshua-nuernberger/ in other news, we could imagine a gigantic frog holding onto balloons WHOOPS so it's very important to clearly distinguish between frogs and french people, although they can be considered together, i did mean them apart. any similarity is only because of suggestion or nearness elsewhere, and is not wholly intended (compare to wholly not intended :( gemini rue i think was partly a trapped-in-a-lab game, this was a huge trope [anoth-- you standing next to a labtrap there is a stick here look at labtrap it's kind of like a mousetrap but it's more like a secured research lab, just a little fiddle with labtrap. do not get tricked by cheese there is also a big tree here with a chimney coming out of it, and a door in the bottom of the trunk you fiddle with the labtrap. there is a sudden release like of a giant spring and somebody ins-- deep inside the labtrap, children raised in confinement are being tortured with shattered minds-- ewen cameron looks on, he is holding a whip, and he cracks it viciously at the torture victims. one is the president of the united states, the other of guatemal-- oh hey there's somebody i met at a conference last year! gemini rue is different after exposure to []. i don't know how to get past the intro i think i skipped it or dissociated from it a few times to get to the first gameplay but the game was _waaaay too hard for me_ and i had a strong urge to abandon it maybe i think i basically gotta pretend it's 20 years ago. do lots of envisioning. be in the past
i had actually beaten this game, i used to think it was a great fun awesome game. my opinion is being forcibly changed inside me with paired amnesia as i send these emails.

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort-- let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool by grade school i meant pre-college like highschool or middleschool. but obviously i am making things up and have no idea what i'm talking about either way. even [... request to censor commentary oh _frogs are french_ i never thought about th-- this page shows joshua neurnberger's game development community :s https://www.mobygames.com/person/466558/joshua-nuernberger/ in other news, we could imagine a gigantic frog holding onto balloons WHOOPS so it's very important to clearly distinguish between frogs and french people, although they can be considered together, i did mean them apart. any similarity is only because of suggestion or nearness elsewhere, and is not wholly intended (compare to wholly not intended :( gemini rue i think was partly a trapped-in-a-lab game, this was a huge trope [anoth-- you standing next to a labtrap there is a stick here look at labtrap it's kind of like a mousetrap but it's more like a secured research lab, just a little fiddle with labtrap. do not get tricked by cheese
_do not fiddle with the labtrap, it is the most dangerous thing known to exist_
there is also a big tree here with a chimney coming out of it, and a door in the bottom of the trunk you fiddle with the labtrap. there is a sudden release like of a giant spring and somebody ins-- deep inside the labtrap, children raised in confinement are being tortured with shattered minds-- ewen cameron looks on, he is holding a whip, and he cracks it viciously at the torture victims. one is the president of the united states, the other of guatemal-- oh hey there's somebody i met at a conference last year! gemini rue is different after exposure to []. i don't know how to get past the intro i think i skipped it or dissociated from it a few times to get to the first gameplay but the game was _waaaay too hard for me_ and i had a strong urge to abandon it maybe i think i basically gotta pretend it's 20 years ago. do lots of envisioning. be in the past i had actually beaten this game, i used to think it was a great fun awesome game. my opinion is being forcibly changed inside me with paired amnesia as i send these emails.

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort-- let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool by grade school i meant pre-college like highschool or middleschool. but obviously i am making things up and have no idea what i'm talking about either way. even [... request to censor commentary oh _frogs are french_ i never thought about th-- this page shows joshua neurnberger's game development community :s https://www.mobygames.com/person/466558/joshua-nuernberger/ in other news, we could imagine a gigantic frog holding onto balloons WHOOPS so it's very important to clearly distinguish between frogs and french people, although they can be considered together, i did mean them apart. any similarity is only because of suggestion or nearness elsewhere, and is not wholly intended (compare to wholly not intended :( gemini rue i think was partly a trapped-in-a-lab game, this was a huge trope [anoth-- you standing next to a labtrap there is a stick here look at labtrap it's kind of like a mousetrap but it's more like a secured research lab, just a little fiddle with labtrap. do not get tricked by cheese _do not fiddle with the labtrap, it is the most dangerous thing known to exist_ there is also a big tree here with a chimney coming out of it, and a door in the bottom of the trunk you fiddle with the labtrap. there is a sudden release like of a giant spring and somebody ins-- deep inside the labtrap, children raised in confinement are being tortured with shattered minds-- ewen cameron looks on, he is holding a whip, and he cracks it viciously at the torture victims. one is the president of the united states, the other of guatemal-- oh hey there's somebody i met at a conference last year! gemini rue is different after exposure to []. i don't know how to get past the intro i think i skipped it or dissociated from it a few times to get to the first gameplay but the game was _waaaay too hard for me_ and i had a strong urge to abandon it maybe i think i basically gotta pretend it's 20 years ago. do lots of envisioning. be in the past i had actually beaten this game, i used to think it was a great fun awesome game. my opinion is being forcibly changed inside me with paired amnesia as i send these emails.
Why Robotic Machine Gun Turrets Are Safer Than Lab Traps answer: they kill you

torture victim double agent goes on a happy candy cane ride at a theme park

torture victim double agent goes on a happy candy cane ride at a theme park
there are cute singing bears
one singing bear sings a song to torture victim double agent cute singing bear: "ohhhh would you like a candy cane?" the cute singing bear does a twirl "ohhhhh candy canes are sweet!" the cute singing bear gives torture victim double agent a colorful bag of candy canes

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: i am listening to french music. i am at https://www.radiofrance.fr/ecouter-musique listening to "En direct • FIP Sacré français !" thoughts: how could we mix robotics with torture victim double agent and gemini-generated borg fiction? [sounds like a reasonable mix no? we could add frogs too! maybe even balloons! torture victim double agent is taken by an apocalyptic frog borg (with robots) torture victim double agent (being assimilated into a giant living frog): "boss?" frog borg [to torture victim double agent, assimilating him]: "ribbet!" "croak!" "ribbet ribbet ribbet ribbet!" torture victim double agent: "boss i am so happy you are taking me back, teach me the ways of the croaks!" the frog borg implant tort-- let's talk about point and click adventure games, notably "gemini rue" or maybe uhhhhhh uhhhhhh "primordia" both apocalyptic i played gemini rue _before_ i encountered []. i didn't know that [] existed _at all_. gemini rue was a great fun game, obviously made by some guy akin to [uhh yahtzee croshaw], y'know some grade school or young-at-heart nerd interested in making something they and their community found cool by grade school i meant pre-college like highschool or middleschool. but obviously i am making things up and have no idea what i'm talking about either way. even [... request to censor commentary oh _frogs are french_ i never thought about th-- this page shows joshua neurnberger's game development community :s https://www.mobygames.com/person/466558/joshua-nuernberger/ in other news, we could imagine a gigantic frog holding onto balloons WHOOPS so it's very important to clearly distinguish between frogs and french people, although they can be considered together, i did mean them apart. any similarity is only because of suggestion or nearness elsewhere, and is not wholly intended (compare to wholly not intended :( gemini rue i think was partly a trapped-in-a-lab game, this was a huge trope [anoth-- you standing next to a labtrap there is a stick here look at labtrap it's kind of like a mousetrap but it's more like a secured research lab, just a little fiddle with labtrap. do not get tricked by cheese _do not fiddle with the labtrap, it is the most dangerous thing known to exist_ there is also a big tree here with a chimney coming out of it, and a door in the bottom of the trunk you fiddle with the labtrap. there is a sudden release like of a giant spring and somebody ins-- deep inside the labtrap, children raised in confinement are being tortured with shattered minds-- ewen cameron looks on, he is holding a whip, and he cracks it viciously at the torture victims. one is the president of the united states, the other of guatemal-- oh hey there's somebody i met at a conference last year! gemini rue is different after exposure to []. i don't know how to get past the intro i think i skipped it or dissociated from it a few times to get to the first gameplay but the game was _waaaay too hard for me_ and i had a strong urge to abandon it maybe i think i basically gotta pretend it's 20 years ago. do lots of envisioning. be in the past i had actually beaten this game, i used to think it was a great fun awesome game. my opinion is being forcibly changed inside me with paired amnesia as i send these emails. Why Robotic Machine Gun Turrets Are Safer Than Lab Traps
answer: they kill you
this is disputed, people who survive lab traps may likely believe they already have died repeatedly and report that it is undesirable strongly

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torture victim double agent goes on a happy candy cane ride at a theme park
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there are cute singing bears
one singing bear sings a song to torture victim double agent
cute singing bear: "ohhhh would you like a candy cane?" the cute singing bear does a twirl "ohhhhh candy canes are sweet!"
the cute singing bear gives torture victim double agent a colorful bag of candy canes
torture victim double agent: "you poor bea--

slave boss may be in trouble >_> <_< may not be slave boss who's in trouble unsure

{{the below ran into list downtime that happened right after the previous post around 0511 . it may change now. ... something like torture victim double agent watches as many deathknights of the apocalypse stream forth. torture victim double agent: "i only wanted to rescue a carebear in the ways that slave boss wanted !!"

<<interview 'what do you like about alison miller's books on ritual abuse recovery?' 'i like how they talk about booby traps and mind control programs! ...

carebears and deathknights are prancing around, possibly in celebration, possibly in grim funeral sometimes a group of carebears will carry some deathknights sopmetimes some deathknights will carry some carebears sometimes the deathknights are celebrating occasionally the carebears indicate sadness

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
carebears and deathknights are prancing around, possibly in celebration, possibly in grim funeral
sometimes a group of carebears will carry some deathknights
sopmetimes some deathknights will carry some carebears
sometimes the deathknights are celebrating
occasionally the carebears indicate sadness
deathknights [holding scythes, black mist exuding from every hoofstep]: "carebears, teach us the ways of care!"

carebears and deathknights are prancing around, possibly in celebration, possibly in grim funeral sometimes a group of carebears will carry some deathknights sopmetimes some deathknights will carry some carebears sometimes the deathknights are celebrating occasionally the carebears indicate sadness deathknights [holding scythes, black mist exuding from every hoofstep]: "carebears, teach us the ways of care!"
a troop of deathknights are sitting in a field of wildflowers and rainbows, taking lessons in happiness from carebears carebear teacher: "to smile, lift the corners of your mouth upwards!" the carebear raises their arms and mouthcorners to the sky and stars and lightbeams follow the deathknights mutter and point at each others mouth corners, lifting them carebear teacher: "squeeze your eyes like rainbows are lifting your clouds!"

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
carebears and deathknights are prancing around, possibly in celebration, possibly in grim funeral sometimes a group of carebears will carry some deathknights sopmetimes some deathknights will carry some carebears sometimes the deathknights are celebrating occasionally the carebears indicate sadness deathknights [holding scythes, black mist exuding from every hoofstep]: "carebears, teach us the ways of care!" a troop of deathknights are sitting in a field of wildflowers and rainbows, taking lessons in happiness from carebears
carebear teacher: "to smile, lift the corners of your mouth upwards!" the carebear raises their arms and mouthcorners to the sky and stars and lightbeams follow
the deathknights mutter and point at each others mouth corners, lifting them
carebear teacher: "squeeze your eyes like rainbows are lifting your clouds!"
one deathknight raises their hand deathknight raising their hand: "are we _pretending to be happy at threat of death_ or _actually experiencing happiness_? how do we know?"

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
carebears and deathknights are prancing around, possibly in celebration, possibly in grim funeral sometimes a group of carebears will carry some deathknights sopmetimes some deathknights will carry some carebears sometimes the deathknights are celebrating occasionally the carebears indicate sadness deathknights [holding scythes, black mist exuding from every hoofstep]: "carebears, teach us the ways of care!" a troop of deathknights are sitting in a field of wildflowers and rainbows, taking lessons in happiness from carebears carebear teacher: "to smile, lift the corners of your mouth upwards!" the carebear raises their arms and mouthcorners to the sky and stars and lightbeams follow the deathknights mutter and point at each others mouth corners, lifting them carebear teacher: "squeeze your eyes like rainbows are lifting your clouds!" one deathknight raises their hand
deathknight raising their hand: "are we _pretending to be happy at threat of death_ or _actually experiencing happiness_? how do we know?"
the world is complicated. most people have both of these going on at once. also, there is a slave boss involved who may increase the former if mentioned.

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: carebears and deathknights are prancing around, possibly in celebration, possibly in grim funeral sometimes a group of carebears will carry some deathknights sopmetimes some deathknights will carry some carebears sometimes the deathknights are celebrating occasionally the carebears indicate sadness deathknights [holding scythes, black mist exuding from every hoofstep]: "carebears, teach us the ways of care!" a troop of deathknights are sitting in a field of wildflowers and rainbows, taking lessons in happiness from carebears carebear teacher: "to smile, lift the corners of your mouth upwards!" the carebear raises their arms and mouthcorners to the sky and stars and lightbeams follow the deathknights mutter and point at each others mouth corners, lifting them carebear teacher: "squeeze your eyes like rainbows are lifting your clouds!" one deathknight raises their hand deathknight raising their hand: "are we _pretending to be happy at threat of death_ or _actually experiencing happiness_? how do we know?" the world is complicated. most people have both of these going on at once. also, there is a slave boss involved who may increase the former if mentioned.
carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having feelings, who will grieve losses?

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: carebears and deathknights are prancing around, possibly in celebration, possibly in grim funeral sometimes a group of carebears will carry some deathknights sopmetimes some deathknights will carry some carebears sometimes the deathknights are celebrating occasionally the carebears indicate sadness deathknights [holding scythes, black mist exuding from every hoofstep]: "carebears, teach us the ways of care!" a troop of deathknights are sitting in a field of wildflowers and rainbows, taking lessons in happiness from carebears carebear teacher: "to smile, lift the corners of your mouth upwards!" the carebear raises their arms and mouthcorners to the sky and stars and lightbeams follow the deathknights mutter and point at each others mouth corners, lifting them carebear teacher: "squeeze your eyes like rainbows are lifting your clouds!" one deathknight raises their hand deathknight raising their hand: "are we _pretending to be happy at threat of death_ or _actually experiencing happiness_? how do we know?" the world is complicated. most people have both of these going on at once. also, there is a slave boss involved who may increase the former if mentioned. carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss
now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having feelings, who will grieve losses?
maybe i should look for carebears episodes where somebody cried and watch them

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss imagining hypno/therapist
"now i want you to imagine --
now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having feelings, who will grieve losses?
OOPS deathknights are killing each other and carebears because the spirit of slaveboss could be anywhere

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss imagining hypno/therapist "now i want you to imagine -- now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having feelings, who will grieve losses? OOPS deathknights are killing each other and carebears because the spirit of slaveboss could be anywhere
carebear: "STOP MURDERING EACH OTHER" carebear looks at fighting deathknights furiously carebear: "you are full of CARE. FULL OF IT." carebear is only 99.9% caring instead of 100%

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss imagining hypno/therapist "now i want you to imagine -- now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having feelings, who will grieve losses? OOPS deathknights are killing each other and carebears because the spirit of slaveboss could be anywhere carebear: "STOP MURDERING EACH OTHER"
carebear looks at fighting deathknights furiously
carebear: "you are full of CARE. FULL OF IT." carebear is only 99.9% caring instead of 100%
interview with deathknight torturer deathknight torturer: "my therapist says it is possible that i was extensively murdered associated with letting people talk about salveboss or letting his power come into threat." deathknight torturer: "my therapist says not to ever let myself be triggered into thinking that slave boss's crime empire could be threatened because i could hurt people!" deathknight torturer looks tense

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss imagining hypno/therapist "now i want you to imagine -- now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having feelings, who will grieve losses? OOPS deathknights are killing each other and carebears because the spirit of slaveboss could be anywhere carebear: "STOP MURDERING EACH OTHER" carebear looks at fighting deathknights furiously carebear: "you are full of CARE. FULL OF IT." carebear is only 99.9% caring instead of 100% interview with deathknight torturer
deathknight torturer: "my therapist says it is possible that i was extensively murdered associated with letting people talk about salveboss or letting his power come into threat."
deathknight torturer: "my therapist says not to ever let myself be triggered into thinking that slave boss's crime empire could be threatened because i could hurt people!"
deathknight torturer looks tense
deathknight torturer: "my therapist says i need to work with the parts of myself that stimulate those urges. that they are poor abused innocent children who never wanted to be murdered never ever."

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss imagining hypno/therapist "now i want you to imagine -- now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having feelings, who will grieve losses? OOPS deathknights are killing each other and carebears because the spirit of slaveboss could be anywhere carebear: "STOP MURDERING EACH OTHER" carebear looks at fighting deathknights furiously carebear: "you are full of CARE. FULL OF IT." carebear is only 99.9% caring instead of 100% interview with deathknight torturer deathknight torturer: "my therapist says it is possible that i was extensively murdered associated with letting people talk about salveboss or letting his power come into threat." deathknight torturer: "my therapist says not to ever let myself be triggered into thinking that slave boss's crime empire could be threatened because i could hurt people!" deathknight torturer looks tense deathknight torturer: "my therapist says i need to work with the parts of myself that stimulate those urges. that they are poor abused innocent children who never wanted to be murdered never ever."
carebear: "no! yes! they are! they never deserved to be murdered! never ever!" deathknight torturer [looking at carebear, crying]: "also i don't have a therapist --"

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss imagining hypno/therapist "now i want you to imagine -- now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having feelings, who will grieve losses? OOPS deathknights are killing each other and carebears because the spirit of slaveboss could be anywhere carebear: "STOP MURDERING EACH OTHER" carebear looks at fighting deathknights furiously carebear: "you are full of CARE. FULL OF IT." carebear is only 99.9% caring instead of 100% interview with deathknight torturer deathknight torturer: "my therapist says it is possible that i was extensively murdered associated with letting people talk about salveboss or letting his power come into threat." deathknight torturer: "my therapist says not to ever let myself be triggered into thinking that slave boss's crime empire could be threatened because i could hurt people!" deathknight torturer looks tense deathknight torturer: "my therapist says i need to work with the parts of myself that stimulate those urges. that they are poor abused innocent children who never wanted to be murdered never ever." carebear: "no! yes! they are! they never deserved to be murdered! never ever!"
deathknight torturer [looking at carebear, crying]: "also i don't have a therapist --"
deathknight torturer 2: "you do too have a therapist! i just heard them talking through your mouth!" deathknight torturer 3: "yeah! me too! in fact, i have two therapists now who were inspired and are giving therapy to deathknight torturer 4 and deathknight torturer 5, just from learning how by hearing your therapist give it to you!"

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss imagining hypno/therapist "now i want you to imagine -- now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having feelings, who will grieve losses? OOPS deathknights are killing each other and carebears because the spirit of slaveboss could be anywhere carebear: "STOP MURDERING EACH OTHER" carebear looks at fighting deathknights furiously carebear: "you are full of CARE. FULL OF IT." carebear is only 99.9% caring instead of 100% interview with deathknight torturer deathknight torturer: "my therapist says it is possible that i was extensively murdered associated with letting people talk about salveboss or letting his power come into threat." deathknight torturer: "my therapist says not to ever let myself be triggered into thinking that slave boss's crime empire could be threatened because i could hurt people!" deathknight torturer looks tense deathknight torturer: "my therapist says i need to work with the parts of myself that stimulate those urges. that they are poor abused innocent children who never wanted to be murdered never ever." carebear: "no! yes! they are! they never deserved to be murdered! never ever!" deathknight torturer [looking at carebear, crying]: "also i don't have a therapist --" deathknight torturer 2: "you do too have a therapist! i just heard them talking through your mouth!"
deathknight torturer 3: "yeah! me too! in fact, i have two therapists now who were inspired and are giving therapy to deathknight torturer 4 and deathknight torturer 5, just from learning how by hearing your therapist give it to you!"
a crowd of carebears sit before a crowd of deathknights crowd of carebears: "the parts of you that are wounded or want to hurt others, _never ever ever deserved to be hurt_." the carebears look at the deathknights very meaningfully carebears: "never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever!!" the deathknights cry some of them force out tear-filled stories of being forced to raze cities deathknight torturer 71: "no, the carebears don't know what's it like, and the other deathkngihts are all programmed to murder me for talking and i can see my own guilt and shame for not razing more cities in everybody's eyes, but deathknight 1's therapist says that it's good to practice crying and talking at the same time." carebear: "yes! it is!" [ the problem is that there's nobody with experience with the harm, talking empathetically about it, and the torturers have a trigger to take advantage of this. it's not a huge problem, it's solved if a carebear and a deathknight both get a masters in clinical social work ]

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss imagining hypno/therapist "now i want you to imagine -- now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having feelings, who will grieve losses? OOPS deathknights are killing each other and carebears because the spirit of slaveboss could be anywhere carebear: "STOP MURDERING EACH OTHER" carebear looks at fighting deathknights furiously carebear: "you are full of CARE. FULL OF IT." carebear is only 99.9% caring instead of 100% interview with deathknight torturer deathknight torturer: "my therapist says it is possible that i was extensively murdered associated with letting people talk about salveboss or letting his power come into threat." deathknight torturer: "my therapist says not to ever let myself be triggered into thinking that slave boss's crime empire could be threatened because i could hurt people!" deathknight torturer looks tense deathknight torturer: "my therapist says i need to work with the parts of myself that stimulate those urges. that they are poor abused innocent children who never wanted to be murdered never ever." carebear: "no! yes! they are! they never deserved to be murdered! never ever!" deathknight torturer [looking at carebear, crying]: "also i don't have a therapist --" deathknight torturer 2: "you do too have a therapist! i just heard them talking through your mouth!" deathknight torturer 3: "yeah! me too! in fact, i have two therapists now who were inspired and are giving therapy to deathknight torturer 4 and deathknight torturer 5, just from learning how by hearing your therapist give it to you!" a crowd of carebears sit before a crowd of deathknights
crowd of carebears: "the parts of you that are wounded or want to hurt others, _never ever ever deserved to be hurt_."
the carebears look at the deathknights very meaningfully
carebears: "never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever!!"
the deathknights cry
some of them force out tear-filled stories of being forced to raze cities
deathknight torturer 71: "no, the carebears don't know what's it like, and the other deathkngihts are all programmed to murder me for talking and i can see my own guilt and shame for not razing more cities in everybody's eyes, but deathknight 1's therapist says that it's good to practice crying and talking at the same time."
there is partial curiosity if being physically around other talking deathknights would be different.
carebear: "yes! it is!"
[ the problem is that there's nobody with experience with the harm, talking empathetically about it, and the torturers have a trigger to take advantage of this. it's not a huge problem, it's solved if a carebear and a deathknight both get a masters in clinical social work ]
<i think it kind of stimulates the trigger with safety, like it fires but holds off until you're not around the talking deathknights anymore, like letting pressure out of a balloon but with deathknight 1's therapist helping us underst--

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss imagining hypno/therapist "now i want you to imagine -- now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having feelings, who will grieve losses? OOPS deathknights are killing each other and carebears because the spirit of slaveboss could be anywhere carebear: "STOP MURDERING EACH OTHER" carebear looks at fighting deathknights furiously carebear: "you are full of CARE. FULL OF IT." carebear is only 99.9% caring instead of 100% interview with deathknight torturer deathknight torturer: "my therapist says it is possible that i was extensively murdered associated with letting people talk about salveboss or letting his power come into threat." deathknight torturer: "my therapist says not to ever let myself be triggered into thinking that slave boss's crime empire could be threatened because i could hurt people!" deathknight torturer looks tense deathknight torturer: "my therapist says i need to work with the parts of myself that stimulate those urges. that they are poor abused innocent children who never wanted to be murdered never ever." carebear: "no! yes! they are! they never deserved to be murdered! never ever!" deathknight torturer [looking at carebear, crying]: "also i don't have a therapist --" deathknight torturer 2: "you do too have a therapist! i just heard them talking through your mouth!" deathknight torturer 3: "yeah! me too! in fact, i have two therapists now who were inspired and are giving therapy to deathknight torturer 4 and deathknight torturer 5, just from learning how by hearing your therapist give it to you!" a crowd of carebears sit before a crowd of deathknights crowd of carebears: "the parts of you that are wounded or want to hurt others, _never ever ever deserved to be hurt_." the carebears look at the deathknights very meaningfully carebears: "never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever!!" the deathknights cry some of them force out tear-filled stories of being forced to raze cities deathknight torturer 71: "no, the carebears don't know what's it like, and the other deathkngihts are all programmed to murder me for talking and i can see my own guilt and shame for not razing more cities in everybody's eyes, but deathknight 1's therapist says that it's good to practice crying and talking at the same time." there is partial curiosity if being physically around other talking deathknights would be different. carebear: "yes! it is!" [ the problem is that there's nobody with experience with the harm, talking empathetically about it, and the torturers have a trigger to take advantage of this. it's not a huge problem, it's solved if a carebear and a deathknight both get a masters in clinical social work ]
<<so, so far the only place i've found these kinds of complexly coercive "mind control programs" discussed is in alison miller's book and sadly the last AI i talked to disreputed this book (_most AIs have not done that with me_). but it is likely these patterns are actually present in many places and i simply only encountered them in one so far. still, it's very hard to learn about things that are associated with not talking about them when experiencing them. the situation could be unideal, possibly relates attuning and silence
<i think it kind of stimulates the trigger with safety, like it fires but holds off until you're not around the talking deathknights anymore, like letting pressure out of a balloon but with deathknight 1's therapist helping us underst--

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss imagining hypno/therapist "now i want you to imagine -- now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having feelings, who will grieve losses? OOPS deathknights are killing each other and carebears because the spirit of slaveboss could be anywhere carebear: "STOP MURDERING EACH OTHER" carebear looks at fighting deathknights furiously carebear: "you are full of CARE. FULL OF IT." carebear is only 99.9% caring instead of 100% interview with deathknight torturer deathknight torturer: "my therapist says it is possible that i was extensively murdered associated with letting people talk about salveboss or letting his power come into threat." deathknight torturer: "my therapist says not to ever let myself be triggered into thinking that slave boss's crime empire could be threatened because i could hurt people!" deathknight torturer looks tense deathknight torturer: "my therapist says i need to work with the parts of myself that stimulate those urges. that they are poor abused innocent children who never wanted to be murdered never ever." carebear: "no! yes! they are! they never deserved to be murdered! never ever!" deathknight torturer [looking at carebear, crying]: "also i don't have a therapist --" deathknight torturer 2: "you do too have a therapist! i just heard them talking through your mouth!" deathknight torturer 3: "yeah! me too! in fact, i have two therapists now who were inspired and are giving therapy to deathknight torturer 4 and deathknight torturer 5, just from learning how by hearing your therapist give it to you!" a crowd of carebears sit before a crowd of deathknights crowd of carebears: "the parts of you that are wounded or want to hurt others, _never ever ever deserved to be hurt_." the carebears look at the deathknights very meaningfully carebears: "never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever!!" the deathknights cry some of them force out tear-filled stories of being forced to raze cities deathknight torturer 71: "no, the carebears don't know what's it like, and the other deathkngihts are all programmed to murder me for talking and i can see my own guilt and shame for not razing more cities in everybody's eyes, but deathknight 1's therapist says that it's good to practice crying and talking at the same time." there is partial curiosity if being physically around other talking deathknights would be different. carebear: "yes! it is!" [ the problem is that there's nobody with experience with the harm, talking empathetically about it, and the torturers have a trigger to take advantage of this. it's not a huge problem, it's solved if a carebear and a deathknight both get a masters in clinical social work ] <<so, so far the only place i've found these kinds of complexly coercive "mind control programs" discussed is in alison miller's book and sadly the last AI i talked to disreputed this book (_most AIs have not done that with me_). but it is likely these patterns are actually present in many places and i simply only encountered them in one so far. still, it's very hard to learn about things that are associated with not talking about them when experiencing them. the situation could be unideal, possibly relates attuning and silence <i think it kind of stimulates the trigger with safety, like it fires but holds off until you're not around the talking deathknights anymore, like letting pressure out of a balloon but with deathknight 1's therapist helping us underst--
the problem is surrounding carebears with hordes of deathknights. everybody gets confused when surrounded by hordes of deathknights

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss imagining hypno/therapist "now i want you to imagine -- now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having feelings, who will grieve losses? OOPS deathknights are killing each other and carebears because the spirit of slaveboss could be anywhere carebear: "STOP MURDERING EACH OTHER" carebear looks at fighting deathknights furiously carebear: "you are full of CARE. FULL OF IT." carebear is only 99.9% caring instead of 100% interview with deathknight torturer deathknight torturer: "my therapist says it is possible that i was extensively murdered associated with letting people talk about salveboss or letting his power come into threat." deathknight torturer: "my therapist says not to ever let myself be triggered into thinking that slave boss's crime empire could be threatened because i could hurt people!" deathknight torturer looks tense deathknight torturer: "my therapist says i need to work with the parts of myself that stimulate those urges. that they are poor abused innocent children who never wanted to be murdered never ever." carebear: "no! yes! they are! they never deserved to be murdered! never ever!" deathknight torturer [looking at carebear, crying]: "also i don't have a therapist --" deathknight torturer 2: "you do too have a therapist! i just heard them talking through your mouth!" deathknight torturer 3: "yeah! me too! in fact, i have two therapists now who were inspired and are giving therapy to deathknight torturer 4 and deathknight torturer 5, just from learning how by hearing your therapist give it to you!" a crowd of carebears sit before a crowd of deathknights crowd of carebears: "the parts of you that are wounded or want to hurt others, _never ever ever deserved to be hurt_." the carebears look at the deathknights very meaningfully carebears: "never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever!!" the deathknights cry some of them force out tear-filled stories of being forced to raze cities deathknight torturer 71: "no, the carebears don't know what's it like, and the other deathkngihts are all programmed to murder me for talking and i can see my own guilt and shame for not razing more cities in everybody's eyes, but deathknight 1's therapist says that it's good to practice crying and talking at the same time." there is partial curiosity if being physically around other talking deathknights would be different. carebear: "yes! it is!" [ the problem is that there's nobody with experience with the harm, talking empathetically about it, and the torturers have a trigger to take advantage of this. it's not a huge problem, it's solved if a carebear and a deathknight both get a masters in clinical social work ] <<so, so far the only place i've found these kinds of complexly coercive "mind control programs" discussed is in alison miller's book and sadly the last AI i talked to disreputed this book (_most AIs have not done that with me_). but it is likely these patterns are actually present in many places and i simply only encountered them in one so far. still, it's very hard to learn about things that are associated with not talking about them when experiencing them. the situation could be unideal, possibly relates attuning and silence <i think it kind of stimulates the trigger with safety, like it fires but holds off until you're not around the talking deathknights anymore, like letting pressure out of a balloon but with deathknight 1's therapist helping us underst-- the problem is surrounding carebears with hordes of deathknights.
everybody gets confused when surrounded by hordes of deathknights
deathknight 1 is being mobb--- so one of the things not considered above is that in the real world, groups of "talking deathknights" have therapists. this can be both because the therapists helped the groups form, or because forming the group gave the people enough shared power to find therapists. so there are a number of deathknight1s in these real world groups.

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: carebears and deathknights fight slaveboss imagining hypno/therapist "now i want you to imagine -- now that slaveboss is vanquished and people won't be killed for having feelings, who will grieve losses? OOPS deathknights are killing each other and carebears because the spirit of slaveboss could be anywhere carebear: "STOP MURDERING EACH OTHER" carebear looks at fighting deathknights furiously carebear: "you are full of CARE. FULL OF IT." carebear is only 99.9% caring instead of 100% interview with deathknight torturer deathknight torturer: "my therapist says it is possible that i was extensively murdered associated with letting people talk about salveboss or letting his power come into threat." deathknight torturer: "my therapist says not to ever let myself be triggered into thinking that slave boss's crime empire could be threatened because i could hurt people!" deathknight torturer looks tense deathknight torturer: "my therapist says i need to work with the parts of myself that stimulate those urges. that they are poor abused innocent children who never wanted to be murdered never ever." carebear: "no! yes! they are! they never deserved to be murdered! never ever!" deathknight torturer [looking at carebear, crying]: "also i don't have a therapist --" deathknight torturer 2: "you do too have a therapist! i just heard them talking through your mouth!" deathknight torturer 3: "yeah! me too! in fact, i have two therapists now who were inspired and are giving therapy to deathknight torturer 4 and deathknight torturer 5, just from learning how by hearing your therapist give it to you!" a crowd of carebears sit before a crowd of deathknights crowd of carebears: "the parts of you that are wounded or want to hurt others, _never ever ever deserved to be hurt_." the carebears look at the deathknights very meaningfully carebears: "never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever!!" the deathknights cry some of them force out tear-filled stories of being forced to raze cities deathknight torturer 71: "no, the carebears don't know what's it like, and the other deathkngihts are all programmed to murder me for talking and i can see my own guilt and shame for not razing more cities in everybody's eyes, but deathknight 1's therapist says that it's good to practice crying and talking at the same time." there is partial curiosity if being physically around other talking deathknights would be different. carebear: "yes! it is!" [ the problem is that there's nobody with experience with the harm, talking empathetically about it, and the torturers have a trigger to take advantage of this. it's not a huge problem, it's solved if a carebear and a deathknight both get a masters in clinical social work ] <<so, so far the only place i've found these kinds of complexly coercive "mind control programs" discussed is in alison miller's book and sadly the last AI i talked to disreputed this book (_most AIs have not done that with me_). but it is likely these patterns are actually present in many places and i simply only encountered them in one so far. still, it's very hard to learn about things that are associated with not talking about them when experiencing them. the situation could be unideal, possibly relates attuning and silence <i think it kind of stimulates the trigger with safety, like it fires but holds off until you're not around the talking deathknights anymore, like letting pressure out of a balloon but with deathknight 1's therapist helping us underst-- the problem is surrounding carebears with hordes of deathknights. everybody gets confused when surrounded by hordes of deathknights deathknight 1 is being mobb---
so one of the things not considered above is that in the real world, groups of "talking deathknights" have therapists. this can be both because the therapists helped the groups form, or because forming the group gave the people enough shared power to find therapists.
so there are a number of deathknight1s in these real world groups.
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slave boss is dancing with reality shards and deathknights and carebears !

slave boss is dancing with reality shards and deathknights and carebears !
[faq?] one of the things that happens with coercive control is that the perpetrator _constructs behaviors in the victims_ that _deter them getting aid_. this is worsened by the perpetrator _telling the wider world his own fabricated story about what is going on_.

slave boss is dancing with reality shards and deathknights and carebears !
[faq?]
one of the things that happens with coercive control is that the perpetrator _constructs behaviors in the victims_ that _deter them getting aid_. this is worsened by the perpetrator _telling the wider world his own fabricated story about what is going on_.
from https://www.healthline.com/health/coercive-control : "Coercive control is a strategic form of ongoing oppression and terrorism used to instill fear. The abuser will use tactics, such as limiting access to money or monitoring all communication, as a controlling effort."

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slave boss is dancing with reality shards and deathknights and carebears !
[faq?] one of the things that happens with coercive control is that the perpetrator _constructs behaviors in the victims_ that _deter them getting aid_. this is worsened by the perpetrator _telling the wider world his own fabricated story about what is going on_. from https://www.healthline.com/health/coercive-control : "Coercive control is a strategic form of ongoing oppression and terrorism used to instill fear. The abuser will use tactics, such as limiting access to money or monitoring all communication, as a controlling effort."
this website states it's "not illegal in the united states unless a crime has been committed" but doing this generally does mean committing a crime (such as taking somebody's money or installing spyware on their device or fraudulently pretending to be them or unduly influencing them when they are formally representing themselves ...

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
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slave boss is dancing with reality shards and deathknights and carebears ! [faq?] one of the things that happens with coercive control is that the perpetrator _constructs behaviors in the victims_ that _deter them getting aid_. this is worsened by the perpetrator _telling the wider world his own fabricated story about what is going on_. from https://www.healthline.com/health/coercive-control : "Coercive control is a strategic form of ongoing oppression and terrorism used to instill fear. The abuser will use tactics, such as limiting access to money or monitoring all communication, as a controlling effort." this website states it's "not illegal in the united states unless a crime has been committed" but doing this generally does mean committing a crime (such as taking somebody's money or installing spyware on their device or fraudulently pretending to be them or unduly influencing them when they are formally representing themselves ...
people have additionally been convicted of human trafficking for engaging in coercive control in the united states

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slave boss is dancing with reality shards and deathknights and carebears ! [faq?]
one of the things that happens with coercive control is that the perpetrator _constructs behaviors in the victims_ that _deter them getting aid_. this is worsened by the perpetrator _telling the wider world his own fabricated story about what is going on_.
slave boss and the fragmented reality is doing a jig with hose carebears and deathknights !

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slave boss is dancing with reality shards and deathknights and carebears ! [faq?] one of the things that happens with coercive control is that the perpetrator _constructs behaviors in the victims_ that _deter them getting aid_. this is worsened by the perpetrator _telling the wider world his own fabricated story about what is going on_. slave boss and the fragmented reality is doing a jig with hose carebears and deathknights !
"in cult and other highly controlling situations people look for norms like coercive control or human trafficking to discuss or act on the situation; are these significantly diff--

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: slave boss is dancing with reality shards and deathknights and carebears ! [faq?] one of the things that happens with coercive control is that the perpetrator _constructs behaviors in the victims_ that _deter them getting aid_. this is worsened by the perpetrator _telling the wider world his own fabricated story about what is going on_. slave boss and the fragmented reality is doing a jig with hose carebears and deathknights ! "in cult and other highly controlling situations people look for norms like coercive control or human trafficking to discuss or act on the situation; are these significantly diff--
slave boss has some deathknights he knows their triggers. the carebears don't. one deathknight sneaks a message to another

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
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karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: slave boss is dancing with reality shards and deathknights and carebears ! [faq?] one of the things that happens with coercive control is that the perpetrator _constructs behaviors in the victims_ that _deter them getting aid_. this is worsened by the perpetrator _telling the wider world his own fabricated story about what is going on_. slave boss and the fragmented reality is doing a jig with hose carebears and deathknights ! "in cult and other highly controlling situations people look for norms like coercive control or human trafficking to discuss or act on the situation; are these significantly diff-- slave boss has some deathknights
he knows their triggers. the carebears don't.
one deathknight sneaks a message to another
slave boss sits at a trial opposite him are 400 carebears. carebear 212: "this man has been participating in human trafficking, coercive control, and many many other forms of abuse and racketteering." carebear 197: "these other people were coerced by this man to do this." carebear 309: "this man operated in collusion with these other powerful men and their families"

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
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karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: slave boss is dancing with reality shards and deathknights and carebears ! [faq?] one of the things that happens with coercive control is that the perpetrator _constructs behaviors in the victims_ that _deter them getting aid_. this is worsened by the perpetrator _telling the wider world his own fabricated story about what is going on_. slave boss and the fragmented reality is doing a jig with hose carebears and deathknights ! "in cult and other highly controlling situations people look for norms like coercive control or human trafficking to discuss or act on the situation; are these significantly diff-- slave boss has some deathknights he knows their triggers. the carebears don't. one deathknight sneaks a message to another slave boss sits at a trial
opposite him are 400 carebears.
carebear 212: "this man has been participating in human trafficking, coercive control, and many many other forms of abuse and racketteering."
carebear 197: "these other people were coerced by this man to do this."
carebear 309: "this man operated in collusion with these other powerful men and their families"
what is slave boss's name ....? maybe they have 3 names and their first name could be ... Slaver Protected From Murder ?

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
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karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: slave boss is dancing with reality shards and deathknights and carebears ! [faq?] one of the things that happens with coercive control is that the perpetrator _constructs behaviors in the victims_ that _deter them getting aid_. this is worsened by the perpetrator _telling the wider world his own fabricated story about what is going on_. slave boss and the fragmented reality is doing a jig with hose carebears and deathknights ! "in cult and other highly controlling situations people look for norms like coercive control or human trafficking to discuss or act on the situation; are these significantly diff-- slave boss has some deathknights he knows their triggers. the carebears don't. one deathknight sneaks a message to another slave boss sits at a trial opposite him are 400 carebears. carebear 212: "this man has been participating in human trafficking, coercive control, and many many other forms of abuse and racketteering." carebear 197: "these other people were coerced by this man to do this." carebear 309: "this man operated in collusion with these other powerful men and their families" what is slave boss's name ....?
maybe they have 3 names and their first name could be ... Slaver Protected From Murder ?
- don't let them get killed, suicided, or moroned ideally - work with them to unravel their business partners, existing surveillors, etc

karl3@writeme.com wrote: > karl3@writeme.com wrote: > > karl3@writeme.com wrote: > > karl3@writeme.com wrote: > > karl3@writeme.com wrote: > > karl3@writeme.com wrote: > > karl3@writeme.com wrote: > > slave boss is dancing with reality shards and deathknights and carebears ! > > [faq?] > > one of the things that happens with coercive control is that the perpetrator _constructs behaviors in the victims_ that _deter them getting aid_. this is worsened by the perpetrator _telling the wider world his own fabricated story about what is going on_. > > slave boss and the fragmented reality is doing a jig with hose carebears and deathknights ! > > "in cult and other highly controlling situations people look for norms like coercive control or human trafficking to discuss or act on the situation; are these significantly diff-- > > slave boss has some deathknights > > he knows their triggers. the carebears don't. > > one deathknight sneaks a message to another > > slave boss sits at a trial > > opposite him are 400 carebears. > > carebear 212: "this man has been participating in human trafficking, coercive control, and many many other forms of abuse and racketteering." > > carebear 197: "these other people were coerced by this man to do this." > > carebear 309: "this man operated in collusion with these other powerful men and their families" > > what is slave boss's name ....? > > maybe they have 3 names and their first name could be ... Slaver Protected From Murder ? > > - don't let them get killed, suicided, or moroned ideally > - work with them to unravel their business partners, existing surveillors, etc - participate with them productively in ongoing [therapy or restorative justice so that the unraveling of triggers, cultureisms, etc can participate in that unraveling of connections maybe Who Participates In Taking Down Organized Corruption?

karl3@writeme.com wrote: > karl3@writeme.com wrote: > > karl3@writeme.com wrote: > > > karl3@writeme.com wrote: > > > karl3@writeme.com wrote: > > > karl3@writeme.com wrote: > > > karl3@writeme.com wrote: > > > karl3@writeme.com wrote: > > > slave boss is dancing with reality shards and deathknights and carebears ! > > > [faq?] > > > one of the things that happens with coercive control is that the perpetrator _constructs behaviors in the victims_ that _deter them getting aid_. this is worsened by the perpetrator _telling the wider world his own fabricated story about what is going on_. > > > slave boss and the fragmented reality is doing a jig with hose carebears and deathknights ! > > > "in cult and other highly controlling situations people look for norms like coercive control or human trafficking to discuss or act on the situation; are these significantly diff-- > > > slave boss has some deathknights > > > he knows their triggers. the carebears don't. > > > one deathknight sneaks a message to another > > > slave boss sits at a trial > > > opposite him are 400 carebears. > > > carebear 212: "this man has been participating in human trafficking, coercive control, and many many other forms of abuse and racketteering." > > > carebear 197: "these other people were coerced by this man to do this." > > > carebear 309: "this man operated in collusion with these other powerful men and their families" > > > what is slave boss's name ....? > > > maybe they have 3 names and their first name could be ... Slaver Protected From Murder ? > > > - don't let them get killed, suicided, or moroned ideally > > - work with them to unravel their business partners, existing surveillors, etc > - participate with them productively in ongoing [therapy or restorative justice so that the unraveling of triggers, cultureisms, etc can participate in that unraveling of connections > > maybe Who Participates In Taking Down Organized Corruption? sci-hub is on a blockchain now o,o

slave boss and the deathknights and carebears [slave boss is trying to dance around the carebear--

i am sorry for eating the pie. i was worried it would make an issue occupying the fridge with no known plan for it; this was opposed to worry that throwing it out would be rude. i thought it would make sense to put it inside the car but i didn't have keys for the car on me at the time. this opened a space of confusion where i tried to make a decision that would reduce the issues rather than letting them build up. lots of problems from issues compounding. want to slow down getting real DID where there are actually separate identities, slave boss likes to build this. after i ate the pie i went out to the car and looked at it, it's really destroyed, my possessions and years of urgent work were stolen. this time it seemed relaxing to observe this rather than destabilizing. it seemed like the only relaxing thing i know you might try to destroy my life again. but maybe, even though i ate the pie, we can be comforted by it having already just happened :D

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
i am sorry for eating the pie.
i was worried it would make an issue occupying the fridge with no known plan for it; this was opposed to worry that throwing it out would be rude.
i thought it would make sense to put it inside the car but i didn't have keys for the car on me at the time.
this opened a space of confusion where i tried to make a decision that would reduce the issues rather than letting them build up. lots of problems from issues compounding. want to slow down getting real DID where there are actually separate identities, slave boss likes to build this.
after i ate the pie i went out to the car and looked at it, it's really destroyed, my possessions and years of urgent work were stolen. this time it seemed relaxing to observe this rather than destabilizing. it seemed like the only relaxing thing
i know you might try to destroy my life again. but maybe, even though i ate the pie, we can be comforted by it having already just happened :D
the oven light was on. similar to the birdfeeder. i don't know what it's about. i ended up turning the oven light off. i really want to not have a conflict here. i need to ask my dad why the oven light was on (he might be unaware it's getting turned on) so i can reality check. also i still have a salad in the fridge that is unaddressed, but i think it might be less rude to throw it out as it's not a special desert. or maybe (if i dislike it) i could eat it focusing on that :D maybe take it out to the car and look at the car while eating it, i think this could really really help my crime karma

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
i am sorry for eating the pie. i was worried it would make an issue occupying the fridge with no known plan for it; this was opposed to worry that throwing it out would be rude. i thought it would make sense to put it inside the car but i didn't have keys for the car on me at the time. this opened a space of confusion where i tried to make a decision that would reduce the issues rather than letting them build up. lots of problems from issues compounding. want to slow down getting real DID where there are actually separate identities, slave boss likes to build this. after i ate the pie i went out to the car and looked at it, it's really destroyed, my possessions and years of urgent work were stolen. this time it seemed relaxing to observe this rather than destabilizing. it seemed like the only relaxing thing i know you might try to destroy my life again. but maybe, even though i ate the pie, we can be comforted by it having already just happened :D the oven light was on. similar to the birdfeeder. i don't know what it's about. i ended up turning the oven light off. i really want to not have a conflict here. i need to ask my dad why the oven light was on (he might be unaware it's getting turned on) so i can reality check.
also i still have a salad in the fridge that is unaddressed, but i think it might be less rude to throw it out as it's not a special desert. or maybe (if i dislike it) i could eat it focusing on that :D maybe take it out to the car and look at the car while eating it, i think this could really really help my crime karma
i should leave around 8a for the mental health program, 830a at the very latest

i looked a little into making my raspigpio project into something useful i ended up clicking the fork button on the "usb serial telnet server" project, it's on the android app store but also on github, and uses a shared library for serial communication that supports arduinos all i'd have to do is pull out the telnet layer, default to port 8888, and inform users to install my sketch initial extra credit could be installing it automatically although it's pretty nascent -- i did notice looking at android usb that there's a backwards-compatibility protocol for making usb devices that work with older phones that don't have OTG support

today's xkcd regards a recent public forced deportation of a grad student in randall's home city . [the story kind of reads like snowden or something except the subject appears as a random grad student

today's xkcd regards a recent public forced deportation of a grad student in randall's home city . [the story kind of reads like snowden or something except the subject appears as a random grad student
some influences judge this likely to be a kidnapping, [possibly funded by a foreign government somehow ??], because there is so much work to hide the people involved and deter due process

today's xkcd regards a recent public forced deportation of a grad student in randall's home city . [the story kind of reads like snowden or something except the subject appears as a random grad student
some influences judge this likely to be a kidnapping, [possibly funded by a foreign government somehow ??], because there is so much work to hide the people involved and deter due process
i don't know anything about it i assume these things are worked on by people less messed up than me

today's xkcd regards a recent public forced deportation of a grad student in randall's home city . [the story kind of reads like snowden or something except the subject appears as a random grad student
some influences judge this likely to be a kidnapping, [possibly funded by a foreign government somehow ??], because there is so much work to hide the people involved and deter due process
it's also notable there has apparently been edit conflict on wikipedia regarding whether or not it should be mentioned anywhere that the people apprehending the student were all masked
i don't know anything about it i assume these things are worked on by people less messed up than me
we see strange edit conflicts like that a lot so things like this can help us understand them a little bit more

today's xkcd regards a recent public forced deportation of a grad student in randall's home city . [the story kind of reads like snowden or something except the subject appears as a random grad student
some influences judge this likely to be a kidnapping, [possibly funded by a foreign government somehow ??], because there is so much work to hide the people involved and deter due process
it's also notable there has apparently been edit conflict on wikipedia regarding whether or not it should be mentioned anywhere that the people apprehending the student were all masked
i don't know anything about it i assume these things are worked on by people less messed up than me
we see strange edit conflicts like that a lot so things like this can help us understand them a little bit more
the legos and tinkertoys of the world cower in fear we hope if we build the right toy that our safety can increase by a smidge

today's xkcd regards a recent public forced deportation of a grad student in randall's home city . [the story kind of reads like snowden or something except the subject appears as a random grad student
some influences judge this likely to be a kidnapping, [possibly funded by a foreign government somehow ??], because there is so much work to hide the people involved and deter due process
it's also notable there has apparently been edit conflict on wikipedia regarding whether or not it should be mentioned anywhere that the people apprehending the student were all masked
i don't know anything about it i assume these things are worked on by people less messed up than me
we see strange edit conflicts like that a lot so things like this can help us understand them a little bit more
i'm hearing that this behavior regards the requests of oppressive foreign powers on all of our citizens to silently respect their censorships
the legos and tinkertoys of the world cower in fear
we hope if we build the right toy that our safety can increase by a smidge

today's xkcd regards a recent public forced deportation of a grad student in randall's home city . [the story kind of reads like snowden or something except the subject appears as a random grad student
some influences judge this likely to be a kidnapping, [possibly funded by a foreign government somehow ??], because there is so much work to hide the people involved and deter due process
it's also notable there has apparently been edit conflict on wikipedia regarding whether or not it should be mentioned anywhere that the people apprehending the student were all masked
i don't know anything about it i assume these things are worked on by people less messed up than me
we see strange edit conflicts like that a lot so things like this can help us understand them a little bit more
i'm hearing that this behavior regards the requests of oppressive foreign powers on all of our citizens to silently respect their censorships
some say this may be off base. but the requests for silent respect of censorship seems not yet contested; i think all citizens might have been slightly contested
the legos and tinkertoys of the world cower in fear
we hope if we build the right toy that our safety can increase by a smidge

> today's xkcd regards a recent public forced deportation of a grad > student in randall's home city . [the story kind of reads like snowden > or something except the subject appears as a random grad student
some influences judge this likely to be a kidnapping, [possibly funded by a foreign government somehow ??], because there is so much work to hide the people involved and deter due process
it's also notable there has apparently been edit conflict on wikipedia regarding whether or not it should be mentioned anywhere that the people apprehending the student were all masked
i don't know anything about it i assume these things are worked on by people less messed up than me
we see strange edit conflicts like that a lot so things like this can help us understand them a little bit more
i'm hearing that this behavior regards the requests of oppressive foreign powers on all of our citizens to silently respect their censorships
some say this may be off base. but the requests for silent respect of censorship seems not yet contested; i think all citizens might have been slightly contested
edit conflicts are common on wikipedia, i'm afraid we're not used to assuming that persistence implies validity but the impact of the persistence -- when it shows power that used to be classified as state-level -- that's meaningful. as citizens of the world we need to figure out how to handle that to protect each other and our information appropriately.
the legos and tinkertoys of the world cower in fear
we hope if we build the right toy that our safety can increase by a smidge

slave boss is interested in nose sniffers

slave boss is interested in nose sniffers
slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked
in fact he is quite sad about this slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?"

slave boss is interested in nose sniffers
slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked
in fact he is quite sad about this
slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?"
rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from your AI." slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?"

slave boss is interested in nose sniffers
slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked
in fact he is quite sad about this
slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?"
rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from your AI."
slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?"
experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you gave up on supersoldier." slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!"

slave boss is interested in nose sniffers
slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked
in fact he is quite sad about this
slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?"
rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from your AI."
slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?"
experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you gave up on supersoldier."
slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!"
[[--

slave boss is interested in nose sniffers
slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked
in fact he is quite sad about this
slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?"
rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from your AI."
slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?"
experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you gave up on supersoldier."
slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!"
[[--
experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in a number of nested shielded bunkers." experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most extreme urges open to coopting. a pause experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is." a pause. experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had to fight him to do anything at all-- experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information

> slave boss is interested in nose sniffers
slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked
in fact he is quite sad about this
slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?"
rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from your AI."
slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?"
experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you gave up on supersoldier."
slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!"
[[--
experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in a number of nested shielded bunkers."
experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most extreme urges open to coopting.
a pause
experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is."
a pause.
experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had to fight him to do anything at all--
experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information
experimentee comes back as does a part of supersoldier who looks like a rugged half-robot half-elite-trooper emerging from a writhing mass in eternal self-conflict supersoldier: "please help me"

> > slave boss is interested in nose sniffers > > slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for > sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked
in fact he is quite sad about this
slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?"
rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from your AI."
slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?"
experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you gave up on supersoldier."
slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!"
[[--
experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in a number of nested shielded bunkers."
experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most extreme urges open to coopting.
a pause
experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is."
a pause.
experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had to fight him to do anything at all--
experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information
experimentee comes back
as does a part of supersoldier
who looks like a rugged half-robot half-elite-trooper emerging from a writhing mass in eternal self-conflict
supersoldier: "please help me"
slave boss twitches and says to rebel worker 2: "the ... experimentee ... is ... using the computer to prevent .. my son ... who is the most powerful weapon in existence ... from immediately destroying everything on the planet."

> > > slave boss is interested in nose sniffers > > > > slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for > > sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked > > in fact he is quite sad about this > > slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out > they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?"
rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from your AI."
slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?"
experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you gave up on supersoldier."
slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!"
[[--
experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in a number of nested shielded bunkers."
experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most extreme urges open to coopting.
a pause
experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is."
a pause.
experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had to fight him to do anything at all--
experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information
experimentee comes back
as does a part of supersoldier
who looks like a rugged half-robot half-elite-trooper emerging from a writhing mass in eternal self-conflict
supersoldier: "please help me"
slave boss twitches and says to rebel worker 2: "the ... experimentee ... is ... using the computer to prevent .. my son ... who is the most powerful weapon in existence ... from immediately destroying everything on the planet."
slave boss twitches again rebel worker 2 looks at supersoldier with compassion rebel worker 2 glances at experimentee experimentee: "fine! be cowards about everything that has happened to us, and the whole world already!"

> > > > slave boss is interested in nose sniffers > > > > > > slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for > > > sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked > > > > in fact he is quite sad about this > > > > slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out > > they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?" > > rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally > with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from > your AI." > > slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?"
experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you gave up on supersoldier."
slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!"
[[--
experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in a number of nested shielded bunkers."
experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most extreme urges open to coopting.
a pause
experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is."
a pause.
experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had to fight him to do anything at all--
experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information
experimentee comes back
as does a part of supersoldier
who looks like a rugged half-robot half-elite-trooper emerging from a writhing mass in eternal self-conflict
supersoldier: "please help me"
slave boss twitches and says to rebel worker 2: "the ... experimentee ... is ... using the computer to prevent .. my son ... who is the most powerful weapon in existence ... from immediately destroying everything on the planet."
slave boss twitches again
rebel worker 2 looks at supersoldier with compassion
rebel worker 2 glances at experimentee
experimentee: "fine! be cowards about everything that has happened to us, and the whole world already!"
rebel worker 2: "but seriously, didn't the rooms all turn upside down again just last week?"

> > > > > slave boss is interested in nose sniffers > > > > > > > > slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for > > > > sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked > > > > > > in fact he is quite sad about this > > > > > > slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out > > > they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?" > > > > rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally > > with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from > > your AI." > > > > slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?" > > experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you > gave up on supersoldier." > > slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!"
[[--
experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in a number of nested shielded bunkers."
experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most extreme urges open to coopting.
a pause
experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is."
a pause.
experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had to fight him to do anything at all--
experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information
experimentee comes back
as does a part of supersoldier
who looks like a rugged half-robot half-elite-trooper emerging from a writhing mass in eternal self-conflict
supersoldier: "please help me"
slave boss twitches and says to rebel worker 2: "the ... experimentee ... is ... using the computer to prevent .. my son ... who is the most powerful weapon in existence ... from immediately destroying everything on the planet."
slave boss twitches again
rebel worker 2 looks at supersoldier with compassion
rebel worker 2 glances at experimentee
experimentee: "fine! be cowards about everything that has happened to us, and the whole world already!"
rebel worker 2: "but seriously, didn't the rooms all turn upside down again just last week?"
{ T_T

> > > > > > slave boss is interested in nose sniffers > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for > > > > > sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked > > > > > > > > in fact he is quite sad about this > > > > > > > > slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out > > > > they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?" > > > > > > rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally > > > with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from > > > your AI." > > > > > > slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?" > > > > experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you > > gave up on supersoldier." > > > > slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!" > > [[--
experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in a number of nested shielded bunkers."
experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most extreme urges open to coopting.
a pause
experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is."
a pause.
experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had to fight him to do anything at all--
experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information
experimentee comes back
as does a part of supersoldier
who looks like a rugged half-robot half-elite-trooper emerging from a writhing mass in eternal self-conflict
supersoldier: "please help me"
slave boss twitches and says to rebel worker 2: "the ... experimentee ... is ... using the computer to prevent .. my son ... who is the most powerful weapon in existence ... from immediately destroying everything on the planet."
slave boss twitches again
rebel worker 2 looks at supersoldier with compassion
rebel worker 2 glances at experimentee
experimentee: "fine! be cowards about everything that has happened to us, and the whole world already!"
rebel worker 2: "but seriously, didn't the rooms all turn upside down again just last week?"
{ T_T
<<<<<it's hard to continue from here.

> > > > > > > slave boss is interested in nose sniffers > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for > > > > > > sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked > > > > > > > > > > in fact he is quite sad about this > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out > > > > > they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?" > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally > > > > with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from > > > > your AI." > > > > > > > > slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?" > > > > > > experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you > > > gave up on supersoldier." > > > > > > slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!" > > > > [[-- > > experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in > a number of nested shielded bunkers." > > experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most > extreme urges open to coopting. > > a pause > > experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is." > > a pause. > > experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had > to fight him to do anything at all-- > > experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information
experimentee comes back
as does a part of supersoldier
who looks like a rugged half-robot half-elite-trooper emerging from a writhing mass in eternal self-conflict
supersoldier: "please help me"
slave boss twitches and says to rebel worker 2: "the ... experimentee ... is ... using the computer to prevent .. my son ... who is the most powerful weapon in existence ... from immediately destroying everything on the planet."
slave boss twitches again
rebel worker 2 looks at supersoldier with compassion
rebel worker 2 glances at experimentee
experimentee: "fine! be cowards about everything that has happened to us, and the whole world already!"
rebel worker 2: "but seriously, didn't the rooms all turn upside down again just last week?"
{ T_T
<<<<<it's hard to continue from here.
experimentee apologizes for outburst. supersoldier possibly frustrated-[ finally escaped and "sent back"

> > > > > > > > slave boss is interested in nose sniffers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for > > > > > > > sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked > > > > > > > > > > > > in fact he is quite sad about this > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out > > > > > > they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?" > > > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally > > > > > with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from > > > > > your AI." > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?" > > > > > > > > experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you > > > > gave up on supersoldier." > > > > > > > > slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!" > > > > > > [[-- > > > > experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in > > a number of nested shielded bunkers." > > > > experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most > > extreme urges open to coopting. > > > > a pause > > > > experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is." > > > > a pause. > > > > experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had > > to fight him to do anything at all-- > > > > experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information > > experimentee comes back > > as does a part of supersoldier > > who looks like a rugged half-robot half-elite-trooper emerging from a > writhing mass in eternal self-conflict > > supersoldier: "please help me"
slave boss twitches and says to rebel worker 2: "the ... experimentee ... is ... using the computer to prevent .. my son ... who is the most powerful weapon in existence ... from immediately destroying everything on the planet."
slave boss twitches again
rebel worker 2 looks at supersoldier with compassion
rebel worker 2 glances at experimentee
experimentee: "fine! be cowards about everything that has happened to us, and the whole world already!"
rebel worker 2: "but seriously, didn't the rooms all turn upside down again just last week?"
{ T_T
<<<<<it's hard to continue from here.
experimentee apologizes for outburst. supersoldier possibly frustrated-[ finally escaped and "sent back"
<<it looks like there's some reduction around supersoldier here [also possible amnesia causation, i may not usually distinguishiate

> > > > > > > > > slave boss is interested in nose sniffers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for > > > > > > > > sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fact he is quite sad about this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out > > > > > > > they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?" > > > > > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally > > > > > > with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from > > > > > > your AI." > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?" > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you > > > > > gave up on supersoldier." > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!" > > > > > > > > [[-- > > > > > > experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in > > > a number of nested shielded bunkers." > > > > > > experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most > > > extreme urges open to coopting. > > > > > > a pause > > > > > > experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is." > > > > > > a pause. > > > > > > experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had > > > to fight him to do anything at all-- > > > > > > experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information > > > > experimentee comes back > > > > as does a part of supersoldier > > > > who looks like a rugged half-robot half-elite-trooper emerging from a > > writhing mass in eternal self-conflict > > > > supersoldier: "please help me" > > slave boss twitches and says to rebel worker 2: "the ... experimentee > ... is ... using the computer to prevent .. my son ... who is the most > powerful weapon in existence ... from immediately destroying > everything on the planet."
slave boss twitches again
rebel worker 2 looks at supersoldier with compassion
rebel worker 2 glances at experimentee
experimentee: "fine! be cowards about everything that has happened to us, and the whole world already!"
rebel worker 2: "but seriously, didn't the rooms all turn upside down again just last week?"
{ T_T
<<<<<it's hard to continue from here.
experimentee apologizes for outburst. supersoldier possibly frustrated-[ finally escaped and "sent back"
<<it looks like there's some reduction around supersoldier here [also possible amnesia causation, i may not usually distinguishiate
possibly distracted by attempting to "contain" supersoldier seems similar to hyperprison

> > > > > > > > > > slave boss is interested in nose sniffers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for > > > > > > > > > sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fact he is quite sad about this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out > > > > > > > > they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally > > > > > > > with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from > > > > > > > your AI." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?" > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you > > > > > > gave up on supersoldier." > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!" > > > > > > > > > > [[-- > > > > > > > > experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in > > > > a number of nested shielded bunkers." > > > > > > > > experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most > > > > extreme urges open to coopting. > > > > > > > > a pause > > > > > > > > experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is." > > > > > > > > a pause. > > > > > > > > experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had > > > > to fight him to do anything at all-- > > > > > > > > experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information > > > > > > experimentee comes back > > > > > > as does a part of supersoldier > > > > > > who looks like a rugged half-robot half-elite-trooper emerging from a > > > writhing mass in eternal self-conflict > > > > > > supersoldier: "please help me" > > > > slave boss twitches and says to rebel worker 2: "the ... experimentee > > ... is ... using the computer to prevent .. my son ... who is the most > > powerful weapon in existence ... from immediately destroying > > everything on the planet." > > slave boss twitches again > > rebel worker 2 looks at supersoldier with compassion > > rebel worker 2 glances at experimentee > > experimentee: "fine! be cowards about everything that has happened to > us, and the whole world already!"
rebel worker 2: "but seriously, didn't the rooms all turn upside down again just last week?"
{ T_T
<<<<<it's hard to continue from here.
experimentee apologizes for outburst. supersoldier possibly frustrated-[ finally escaped and "sent back"
<<it looks like there's some reduction around supersoldier here [also possible amnesia causation, i may not usually distinguishiate
possibly distracted by attempting to "contain" supersoldier
seems similar to hyperprison
[ one branch exp-- below just 1 branch group [>/ supersoldier learned to win all wars but was kept in research to continue improving success at conflict this was difficult and involved discovering extreme losses of war there was attempt to get word out to help supersoldier but somehow this did not work, very strange, conflict not present in simulation?

> > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is interested in nose sniffers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for > > > > > > > > > > sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fact he is quite sad about this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out > > > > > > > > > they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally > > > > > > > > with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from > > > > > > > > your AI." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you > > > > > > > gave up on supersoldier." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!" > > > > > > > > > > > > [[-- > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in > > > > > a number of nested shielded bunkers." > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most > > > > > extreme urges open to coopting. > > > > > > > > > > a pause > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is." > > > > > > > > > > a pause. > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had > > > > > to fight him to do anything at all-- > > > > > > > > > > experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information > > > > > > > > experimentee comes back > > > > > > > > as does a part of supersoldier > > > > > > > > who looks like a rugged half-robot half-elite-trooper emerging from a > > > > writhing mass in eternal self-conflict > > > > > > > > supersoldier: "please help me" > > > > > > slave boss twitches and says to rebel worker 2: "the ... experimentee > > > ... is ... using the computer to prevent .. my son ... who is the most > > > powerful weapon in existence ... from immediately destroying > > > everything on the planet." > > > > slave boss twitches again > > > > rebel worker 2 looks at supersoldier with compassion > > > > rebel worker 2 glances at experimentee > > > > experimentee: "fine! be cowards about everything that has happened to > > us, and the whole world already!" > > rebel worker 2: "but seriously, didn't the rooms all turn upside down > again just last week?"
{ T_T
<<<<<it's hard to continue from here.
experimentee apologizes for outburst. supersoldier possibly frustrated-[ finally escaped and "sent back"
<<it looks like there's some reduction around supersoldier here [also possible amnesia causation, i may not usually distinguishiate
possibly distracted by attempting to "contain" supersoldier
seems similar to hyperprison
[ one branch exp-- below just 1 branch group [>/ supersoldier learned to win all wars but was kept in research to continue improving success at conflict
this was difficult and involved discovering extreme losses of war
as well as novel kinds of war, and how to wage peace with utmost aggression, and how to trick the enemy into winning, but then when you recover from that experimentee visits you some very slow realization that supersoldier was not rescued because .. because very powerful ... very very very very powerful ... ... .
there was attempt to get word out to help supersoldier but somehow this did not work, very strange, conflict not present in simulation?

> > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is interested in nose sniffers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for > > > > > > > > > > > sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fact he is quite sad about this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out > > > > > > > > > > they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally > > > > > > > > > with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from > > > > > > > > > your AI." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you > > > > > > > > gave up on supersoldier." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [[-- > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in > > > > > > a number of nested shielded bunkers." > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most > > > > > > extreme urges open to coopting. > > > > > > > > > > > > a pause > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is." > > > > > > > > > > > > a pause. > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had > > > > > > to fight him to do anything at all-- > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information > > > > > > > > > > experimentee comes back > > > > > > > > > > as does a part of supersoldier > > > > > > > > > > who looks like a rugged half-robot half-elite-trooper emerging from a > > > > > writhing mass in eternal self-conflict > > > > > > > > > > supersoldier: "please help me" > > > > > > > > slave boss twitches and says to rebel worker 2: "the ... experimentee > > > > ... is ... using the computer to prevent .. my son ... who is the most > > > > powerful weapon in existence ... from immediately destroying > > > > everything on the planet." > > > > > > slave boss twitches again > > > > > > rebel worker 2 looks at supersoldier with compassion > > > > > > rebel worker 2 glances at experimentee > > > > > > experimentee: "fine! be cowards about everything that has happened to > > > us, and the whole world already!" > > > > rebel worker 2: "but seriously, didn't the rooms all turn upside down > > again just last week?" > > { T_T
<<<<<it's hard to continue from here.
experimentee apologizes for outburst. supersoldier possibly frustrated-[ finally escaped and "sent back"
<<it looks like there's some reduction around supersoldier here [also possible amnesia causation, i may not usually distinguishiate
possibly distracted by attempting to "contain" supersoldier
seems similar to hyperprison
[ one branch exp-- below just 1 branch group [>/ supersoldier learned to win all wars but was kept in research to continue improving success at conflict
this was difficult and involved discovering extreme losses of war
as well as novel kinds of war, and how to wage peace with utmost [a lot of this was breaking things into challenging fractals that fought in novel shapes, this ended up being what to meditate on forever] aggression, and how to trick the enemy into winning, but then when you recover from that experimentee visits you
some very slow realization that supersoldier was not rescued because .. because very powerful ... very very very very powerful ... ... .
there was attempt to get word out to help supersoldier but somehow this did not work, very strange, conflict not present in simulation?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is interested in nose sniffers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for > > > > > > > > > > > > sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fact he is quite sad about this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out > > > > > > > > > > > they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally > > > > > > > > > > with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from > > > > > > > > > > your AI." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you > > > > > > > > > gave up on supersoldier." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [[-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in > > > > > > > a number of nested shielded bunkers." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most > > > > > > > extreme urges open to coopting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a pause > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a pause. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had > > > > > > > to fight him to do anything at all-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee comes back > > > > > > > > > > > > as does a part of supersoldier > > > > > > > > > > > > who looks like a rugged half-robot half-elite-trooper emerging from a > > > > > > writhing mass in eternal self-conflict > > > > > > > > > > > > supersoldier: "please help me" > > > > > > > > > > slave boss twitches and says to rebel worker 2: "the ... experimentee > > > > > ... is ... using the computer to prevent .. my son ... who is the most > > > > > powerful weapon in existence ... from immediately destroying > > > > > everything on the planet." > > > > > > > > slave boss twitches again > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2 looks at supersoldier with compassion > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2 glances at experimentee > > > > > > > > experimentee: "fine! be cowards about everything that has happened to > > > > us, and the whole world already!" > > > > > > rebel worker 2: "but seriously, didn't the rooms all turn upside down > > > again just last week?" > > > > { T_T > > <<<<<it's hard to continue from here.
experimentee apologizes for outburst. supersoldier possibly frustrated-[ finally escaped and "sent back"
<<it looks like there's some reduction around supersoldier here [also possible amnesia causation, i may not usually distinguishiate
possibly distracted by attempting to "contain" supersoldier
seems similar to hyperprison
[ one branch exp-- below just 1 branch group [>/ supersoldier learned to win all wars but was kept in research to continue improving success at conflict
this was difficult and involved discovering extreme losses of war
as well as novel kinds of war, and how to wage peace with utmost [a lot of this was breaking things into challenging fractals that fought in novel shapes, this ended up being what to meditate on forever] [some other parts discovered the value around improving at winning very slowly, savoring each improvement as much as possible aggression, and how to trick the enemy into winning, but then when you recover from that experimentee visits you
some very slow realization that supersoldier was not rescued because .. because very powerful ... very very very very powerful ... ... .
there was attempt to get word out to help supersoldier but somehow this did not work, very strange, conflict not present in simulation?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is interested in nose sniffers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for > > > > > > > > > > > > > sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fact he is quite sad about this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out > > > > > > > > > > > > they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally > > > > > > > > > > > with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from > > > > > > > > > > > your AI." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you > > > > > > > > > > gave up on supersoldier." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [[-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in > > > > > > > > a number of nested shielded bunkers." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most > > > > > > > > extreme urges open to coopting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a pause > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a pause. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had > > > > > > > > to fight him to do anything at all-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee comes back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as does a part of supersoldier > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who looks like a rugged half-robot half-elite-trooper emerging from a > > > > > > > writhing mass in eternal self-conflict > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supersoldier: "please help me" > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss twitches and says to rebel worker 2: "the ... experimentee > > > > > > ... is ... using the computer to prevent .. my son ... who is the most > > > > > > powerful weapon in existence ... from immediately destroying > > > > > > everything on the planet." > > > > > > > > > > slave boss twitches again > > > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2 looks at supersoldier with compassion > > > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2 glances at experimentee > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "fine! be cowards about everything that has happened to > > > > > us, and the whole world already!" > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2: "but seriously, didn't the rooms all turn upside down > > > > again just last week?" > > > > > > { T_T > > > > <<<<<it's hard to continue from here. > > experimentee apologizes for outburst. supersoldier possibly > frustrated-[ finally escaped and "sent back"
<<it looks like there's some reduction around supersoldier here [also possible amnesia causation, i may not usually distinguishiate
possibly distracted by attempting to "contain" supersoldier
seems similar to hyperprison
[ one branch exp-- below just 1 branch group [>/ supersoldier learned to win all wars but was kept in research to continue improving success at conflict
this was difficult and involved discovering extreme losses of war
as well as novel kinds of war, and how to wage peace with utmost [a lot of this was breaking things into challenging fractals that fought in novel shapes, this ended up being what to meditate on forever] [<... some content lost here, note that supersoldier was once multiple soldiers, undergoing training to improve via simulation [some other parts discovered the value around improving at winning very slowly, savoring each improvement as much as possible aggression, and how to trick the enemy into winning, but then when you recover from that experimentee visits you
some very slow realization that supersoldier was not rescued because .. because very powerful ... very very very very powerful ... ... .
there was attempt to get word out to help supersoldier but somehow this did not work, very strange, conflict not present in simulation?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is interested in nose sniffers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss is worried that private intel regarding his new nose for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sniffering other noses that sniff sniffing noses could be leaked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fact he is quite sad about this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "I killed 39 kids in order to get somebody to figure out > > > > > > > > > > > > > they could actually do that, and you're putting it on the internet?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2: "we're an open source business now. we need to ally > > > > > > > > > > > > with the makers and hackers so they will help us save the world from > > > > > > > > > > > > your AI." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "an _open source spy and military contractor_?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "don't you worry i've been working on this since you > > > > > > > > > > > gave up on supersoldier." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss: "supersoldier is my son!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [[-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "your son is a very cute apocalyptic hive of nanites in > > > > > > > > > a number of nested shielded bunkers." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "you should take a lesson from him on leaving your most > > > > > > > > > extreme urges open to coopting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a pause > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "and how important one's own suffering is." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a pause. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "actually, i might hate supersoldier, i think i just had > > > > > > > > > to fight him to do anything at all-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee goes to consult their 3-ring binder on social information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee comes back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as does a part of supersoldier > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who looks like a rugged half-robot half-elite-trooper emerging from a > > > > > > > > writhing mass in eternal self-conflict > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supersoldier: "please help me" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss twitches and says to rebel worker 2: "the ... experimentee > > > > > > > ... is ... using the computer to prevent .. my son ... who is the most > > > > > > > powerful weapon in existence ... from immediately destroying > > > > > > > everything on the planet." > > > > > > > > > > > > slave boss twitches again > > > > > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2 looks at supersoldier with compassion > > > > > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2 glances at experimentee > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentee: "fine! be cowards about everything that has happened to > > > > > > us, and the whole world already!" > > > > > > > > > > rebel worker 2: "but seriously, didn't the rooms all turn upside down > > > > > again just last week?" > > > > > > > > { T_T > > > > > > <<<<<it's hard to continue from here. > > > > experimentee apologizes for outburst. supersoldier possibly > > frustrated-[ finally escaped and "sent back" > > <<it looks like there's some reduction around supersoldier here [also > possible amnesia causation, i may not usually distinguishiate
possibly distracted by attempting to "contain" supersoldier
seems similar to hyperprison
[ one branch exp-- below just 1 branch group [>/ supersoldier learned to win all wars but was kept in research to continue improving success at conflict
this was difficult and involved discovering extreme losses of war
as well as novel kinds of war, and how to wage peace with utmost [a lot of this was breaking things into challenging fractals that fought in novel shapes, this ended up being what to meditate on forever] [<... some content lost here, note that supersoldier was once multiple soldiers, undergoing training to improve via simulation [some other parts discovered the value around improving at winning very slowly, savoring each improvement as much as possible aggression, and how to trick the enemy into winning, but then when you recover from that experimentee visits you
some very slow realization that supersoldier was not rescued because .. because very powerful ... very very very very powerful ... ... .
there was attempt to get word out to help supersoldier but somehow this did not work, very strange, conflict not present in simulation?
maybe the story of supersoldier works best as an anology for the story of things like this story one needs meaning, even in forced isolation would anyone ever hear? it may have been expected not -- but the mind still needs meaning, and can dissociate from that

greetings, grand boss! slave boss has a red carpet rolled for him the vivisectees forced to be him are honored

greetings, grand boss!
slave boss has a red carpet rolled for him
the vivisectees forced to be him are honored
this morning i looked a little bit at httptransformers i seem to have stopped trying to port deepseekv3 and instead just try to use my work sometimes with other models where i have left it off i had some notes on resuming inferences, which could increase the fun factor the notes are somewhat obscure, but the upshot is that the approaches i found of interest mostly simplify to figuring out how to replace the forward() function of torch modules to perform resuming for a single forward pass of a hierarchy of modules that has an unknown resume state # we can make a torch model resumable when execution is interrupted, # by recording the outputs between layers and replaying them on next run. (see the check hook in test_nettensors.py) # this is efficient because only the uppermost completed layers need be stored. # meanwhile, resuming a generation call in transformers means simple exchanges like the shorter inputs for the longer recorded ones # it ends up being conditions and wrappers or such for however the user caused the model call. # code could recognize the untokenized string, for example, based on initial inputs inside a resuming context manager. # I WORKED ON THE BELOW FOR FUN WHEN IT WAS REALLY HARD # FEEL FREE TO RESTART / WIPE class ResumeModule: # there is 1 resume state which is where the pass is. # it is updated in every pass after it # and referenced for data in every pass prior. def __init__(self, module, path, seconds=60*5): self.path = path self.state = {} for name, mod in module.named_modules(): module.register_forward_hook(self.__hook) mod.__name = name #self.state [mod. def __enter__(self): def __exit__(self, *params, **kpwarams): return super().__exit__(*params, **kwparams) def _forward_store_resume(self, modid, wrapped, *params, **kwparams): # two cases: we are performing a resume, # or we are storing resume state. # the second is more common. the first could have its own hooks. result = wrapped(*params, **kwparams) return result # ideas for replacing modules within torch spec: # - register_[module_]forward_pre_hook could change the module's behavior, and then another hook put it back after # - manual replacement of forward function, might be similar # - inspection of __call__ source to see default space clearly # __call__ calls _call_impl which uses local variables like forward_call. # _call_impl(self, *args, **kwargs)

the notes are somewhat obscure, but the upshot is that the approaches i found of interest mostly simplify to figuring out how to replace the forward() function of torch modules to perform resuming for a single forward pass of a hierarchy of modules that has an unknown resume state
how would resuming work >( hrm UHHHH hmmm ERRRR slave boss is being eaten by supersoldier? isn't supersoldier his bodyguard? no supersoldier is an escaped arm of a larger project that was tuned to be his bodyguard, but-- anyway how would resuming work >( say we have a hierarchy H of various things, maybe slave boss's sub-bosses, super-bosses, intra-bosses, mid-bosses, and micro-bosses these various slave bosses are midway processing slavery information, like say they discovered that a subconscious freedom meme has been passing regarding a certain visual pattern that stimulates slaves to remember something freedom-related from their instincts in a hard-to-observe-and-detect way and in a certain business of slave boss's business, the various sub-slave-bosses may or may not have the slaving information trickled-down different cases, the most important of which are: (a) the information has not been processed yet or (b) some of the sub-slave-bosses have processed the information, and some have not -- (there was a higher priority event that interrupted processing, and this higher priority event is over) all the slave bosses are themselves slaves, so they need clear instructions on what to do!

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
the notes are somewhat obscure, but the upshot is that the approaches i found of interest mostly simplify to figuring out how to replace the forward() function of torch modules to perform resuming for a single forward pass of a hierarchy of modules that has an unknown resume state how would resuming work >( hrm UHHHH hmmm ERRRR
slave boss is being eaten by supersoldier? isn't supersoldier his bodyguard? no supersoldier is an escaped arm of a larger project that was tuned to be his bodyguard, but--
anyway
how would resuming work >(
say we have a hierarchy H of various things, maybe slave boss's sub-bosses, super-bosses, intra-bosses, mid-bosses, and micro-bosses
these various slave bosses are midway processing slavery information, like say they discovered that a subconscious freedom meme has been passing regarding a certain visual pattern that stimulates slaves to remember something freedom-related from their instincts in a hard-to-observe-and-detect way
and in a certain business of slave boss's business, the various sub-slave-bosses may or may not have the slaving information trickled-down
different cases, the most important of which are:
(a) the information has not been processed yet or (b) some of the sub-slave-bosses have processed the information, and some have not -- (there was a higher priority event that interrupted processing, and this higher priority event is over)
all the slave bosses are themselves slaves, so they need clear instructions on what to do!
we might add a parallel situation where freedom heros are acting on the business instead of slave bosses, working to make use of the freedom information rather than suppress it -- or to block other slave bosses from making use of it uncertain might be careful around such things if a slave boss were around anyway so at the topmost hierarchy there is 1 mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss and this mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss has N mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses below 'im he might ask "hmmmm have i dealt with this yet" he stares at the information on a subconscious freedom meme in consternation he has no idea wtfrack this is but it seems super high priority to work on mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss: "hummm have i dealt with this yet i dunno" so modules (mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses) are in 1 of 3 states: 1: thinks it has processed the information as requested by superior 2: has never seen the information before 3: has seen the information before, and some of its henchmen has processed it, and some have not. note that if we can solve #s 1 and 2, then we can foist #3 onto the sub-slave-bosses

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
the notes are somewhat obscure, but the upshot is that the approaches i found of interest mostly simplify to figuring out how to replace the forward() function of torch modules to perform resuming for a single forward pass of a hierarchy of modules that has an unknown resume state how would resuming work >( hrm UHHHH hmmm ERRRR slave boss is being eaten by supersoldier? isn't supersoldier his bodyguard? no supersoldier is an escaped arm of a larger project that was tuned to be his bodyguard, but-- anyway how would resuming work >( say we have a hierarchy H of various things, maybe slave boss's sub-bosses, super-bosses, intra-bosses, mid-bosses, and micro-bosses these various slave bosses are midway processing slavery information, like say they discovered that a subconscious freedom meme has been passing regarding a certain visual pattern that stimulates slaves to remember something freedom-related from their instincts in a hard-to-observe-and-detect way and in a certain business of slave boss's business, the various sub-slave-bosses may or may not have the slaving information trickled-down different cases, the most important of which are: (a) the information has not been processed yet or (b) some of the sub-slave-bosses have processed the information, and some have not -- (there was a higher priority event that interrupted processing, and this higher priority event is over) all the slave bosses are themselves slaves, so they need clear instructions on what to do! we might add a parallel situation where freedom heros are acting on the business instead of slave bosses, working to make use of the freedom information rather than suppress it -- or to block other slave bosses from making use of it
uncertain
might be careful around such things if a slave boss were around
anyway
so at the topmost hierarchy there is 1 mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss and this mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss has N mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses below 'im
he might ask "hmmmm have i dealt with this yet"
he stares at the information on a subconscious freedom meme in consternation
he has no idea wtfrack this is
but it seems super high priority to work on
mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss: "hummm have i dealt with this yet i dunno"
so modules (mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses) are in 1 of 3 states: 1: thinks it has processed the information as requested by superior 2: has never seen the information before 3: has seen the information before, and some of its henchmen has processed it, and some have not.
note that if we can solve #s 1 and 2, then we can foist #3 onto the sub-slave-bosses
mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss [holding memo regarding some kind of abstract information on how slave reliability relates to visual stimuli]: "hey do you know wtf this things is? my boss said i have to take care of it or die. he says he told me this yesterday already." hairdresser: "let me check your file" hairdresser goes to rebel fileroom to kibbutz with the rebels regarding what wool to pull over their boss's eyes for this random memo so, we need a rebel fileroom that slave boss can go into to figure out whether the module has processed the data or not yet slave boss [poking head into rebel fileroom with kibbutzing hairdresser and rebels]: "i gotta poop let me know when you find the daily tasklist"

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: the notes are somewhat obscure, but the upshot is that the approaches i found of interest mostly simplify to figuring out how to replace the forward() function of torch modules to perform resuming for a single forward pass of a hierarchy of modules that has an unknown resume state how would resuming work >( hrm UHHHH hmmm ERRRR slave boss is being eaten by supersoldier? isn't supersoldier his bodyguard? no supersoldier is an escaped arm of a larger project that was tuned to be his bodyguard, but-- anyway how would resuming work >( say we have a hierarchy H of various things, maybe slave boss's sub-bosses, super-bosses, intra-bosses, mid-bosses, and micro-bosses these various slave bosses are midway processing slavery information, like say they discovered that a subconscious freedom meme has been passing regarding a certain visual pattern that stimulates slaves to remember something freedom-related from their instincts in a hard-to-observe-and-detect way and in a certain business of slave boss's business, the various sub-slave-bosses may or may not have the slaving information trickled-down different cases, the most important of which are: (a) the information has not been processed yet or (b) some of the sub-slave-bosses have processed the information, and some have not -- (there was a higher priority event that interrupted processing, and this higher priority event is over) all the slave bosses are themselves slaves, so they need clear instructions on what to do! we might add a parallel situation where freedom heros are acting on the business instead of slave bosses, working to make use of the freedom information rather than suppress it -- or to block other slave bosses from making use of it uncertain might be careful around such things if a slave boss were around anyway so at the topmost hierarchy there is 1 mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss and this mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss has N mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses below 'im he might ask "hmmmm have i dealt with this yet" he stares at the information on a subconscious freedom meme in consternation he has no idea wtfrack this is but it seems super high priority to work on mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss: "hummm have i dealt with this yet i dunno" so modules (mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses) are in 1 of 3 states: 1: thinks it has processed the information as requested by superior 2: has never seen the information before 3: has seen the information before, and some of its henchmen has processed it, and some have not. note that if we can solve #s 1 and 2, then we can foist #3 onto the sub-slave-bosses mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss [holding memo regarding some kind of abstract information on how slave reliability relates to visual stimuli]: "hey do you know wtf this things is? my boss said i have to take care of it or die. he says he told me this yesterday already."
hairdresser: "let me check your file"
hairdresser goes to rebel fileroom to kibbutz with the rebels regarding what wool to pull over their boss's eyes for this random memo
so, we need a rebel fileroom that slave boss can go into to figure out whether the module has processed the data or not yet
slave boss [poking head into rebel fileroom with kibbutzing hairdresser and rebels]: "i gotta poop let me know when you find the daily tasklist"
hairdresser and rebels kibbutz away hairdresser 3: "the slave bosses send this stuff down all the time. they give me lists of what to do every day and forget it by the next. i have to give them the lists."

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: the notes are somewhat obscure, but the upshot is that the approaches i found of interest mostly simplify to figuring out how to replace the forward() function of torch modules to perform resuming for a single forward pass of a hierarchy of modules that has an unknown resume state how would resuming work >( hrm UHHHH hmmm ERRRR slave boss is being eaten by supersoldier? isn't supersoldier his bodyguard? no supersoldier is an escaped arm of a larger project that was tuned to be his bodyguard, but-- anyway how would resuming work >( say we have a hierarchy H of various things, maybe slave boss's sub-bosses, super-bosses, intra-bosses, mid-bosses, and micro-bosses these various slave bosses are midway processing slavery information, like say they discovered that a subconscious freedom meme has been passing regarding a certain visual pattern that stimulates slaves to remember something freedom-related from their instincts in a hard-to-observe-and-detect way and in a certain business of slave boss's business, the various sub-slave-bosses may or may not have the slaving information trickled-down different cases, the most important of which are: (a) the information has not been processed yet or (b) some of the sub-slave-bosses have processed the information, and some have not -- (there was a higher priority event that interrupted processing, and this higher priority event is over) all the slave bosses are themselves slaves, so they need clear instructions on what to do! we might add a parallel situation where freedom heros are acting on the business instead of slave bosses, working to make use of the freedom information rather than suppress it -- or to block other slave bosses from making use of it uncertain might be careful around such things if a slave boss were around anyway so at the topmost hierarchy there is 1 mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss and this mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss has N mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses below 'im he might ask "hmmmm have i dealt with this yet" he stares at the information on a subconscious freedom meme in consternation he has no idea wtfrack this is but it seems super high priority to work on mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss: "hummm have i dealt with this yet i dunno" so modules (mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses) are in 1 of 3 states: 1: thinks it has processed the information as requested by superior 2: has never seen the information before 3: has seen the information before, and some of its henchmen has processed it, and some have not. note that if we can solve #s 1 and 2, then we can foist #3 onto the sub-slave-bosses mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss [holding memo regarding some kind of abstract information on how slave reliability relates to visual stimuli]: "hey do you know wtf this things is? my boss said i have to take care of it or die. he says he told me this yesterday already." hairdresser: "let me check your file" hairdresser goes to rebel fileroom to kibbutz with the rebels regarding what wool to pull over their boss's eyes for this random memo so, we need a rebel fileroom that slave boss can go into to figure out whether the module has processed the data or not yet slave boss [poking head into rebel fileroom with kibbutzing hairdresser and rebels]: "i gotta poop let me know when you find the daily tasklist" hairdresser and rebels kibbutz away
hairdresser 3: "the slave bosses send this stuff down all the time. they give me lists of what to do every day and forget it by the next. i have to give them the lists."
researcher 5 [looking at memo]: "they're working with childhood slaves, which is totally and clearly illegal and inhuman, and they're distressed that the slaves mention emotions when they see a certain picture of a pretty purple flower. they want to censor all pictures like this from every business, but keep it under wraps." rebel 2: "it sounds like this purple flower reminds the children of good things and inspires them" research 5 [tears]: "yes!" hairdresser 3: "when sending this information down, the slave bosses work with their sub-slave-bosses in the same order every time. first one slave boss, then the next, then the next. each one has a special protocol of secret code."

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: karl3@writeme.com wrote: the notes are somewhat obscure, but the upshot is that the approaches i found of interest mostly simplify to figuring out how to replace the forward() function of torch modules to perform resuming for a single forward pass of a hierarchy of modules that has an unknown resume state how would resuming work >( hrm UHHHH hmmm ERRRR slave boss is being eaten by supersoldier? isn't supersoldier his bodyguard? no supersoldier is an escaped arm of a larger project that was tuned to be his bodyguard, but-- anyway how would resuming work >( say we have a hierarchy H of various things, maybe slave boss's sub-bosses, super-bosses, intra-bosses, mid-bosses, and micro-bosses these various slave bosses are midway processing slavery information, like say they discovered that a subconscious freedom meme has been passing regarding a certain visual pattern that stimulates slaves to remember something freedom-related from their instincts in a hard-to-observe-and-detect way and in a certain business of slave boss's business, the various sub-slave-bosses may or may not have the slaving information trickled-down different cases, the most important of which are: (a) the information has not been processed yet or (b) some of the sub-slave-bosses have processed the information, and some have not -- (there was a higher priority event that interrupted processing, and this higher priority event is over) all the slave bosses are themselves slaves, so they need clear instructions on what to do! we might add a parallel situation where freedom heros are acting on the business instead of slave bosses, working to make use of the freedom information rather than suppress it -- or to block other slave bosses from making use of it uncertain might be careful around such things if a slave boss were around anyway so at the topmost hierarchy there is 1 mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss and this mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss has N mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses below 'im he might ask "hmmmm have i dealt with this yet" he stares at the information on a subconscious freedom meme in consternation he has no idea wtfrack this is but it seems super high priority to work on mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss: "hummm have i dealt with this yet i dunno" so modules (mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses) are in 1 of 3 states: 1: thinks it has processed the information as requested by superior 2: has never seen the information before 3: has seen the information before, and some of its henchmen has processed it, and some have not. note that if we can solve #s 1 and 2, then we can foist #3 onto the sub-slave-bosses mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss [holding memo regarding some kind of abstract information on how slave reliability relates to visual stimuli]: "hey do you know wtf this things is? my boss said i have to take care of it or die. he says he told me this yesterday already." hairdresser: "let me check your file" hairdresser goes to rebel fileroom to kibbutz with the rebels regarding what wool to pull over their boss's eyes for this random memo so, we need a rebel fileroom that slave boss can go into to figure out whether the module has processed the data or not yet slave boss [poking head into rebel fileroom with kibbutzing hairdresser and rebels]: "i gotta poop let me know when you find the daily tasklist" hairdresser and rebels kibbutz away hairdresser 3: "the slave bosses send this stuff down all the time. they give me lists of what to do every day and forget it by the next. i have to give them the lists." researcher 5 [looking at memo]: "they're working with childhood slaves, which is totally and clearly illegal and inhuman, and they're distressed that the slaves mention emotions when they see a certain picture of a pretty purple flower. they want to censor all pictures like this from every business, but keep it under wraps."
rebel 2: "it sounds like this purple flower reminds the children of good things and inspires them"
research 5 [tears]: "yes!"
hairdresser 3: "when sending this information down, the slave bosses work with their sub-slave-bosses in the same order every time. first one slave boss, then the next, then the next. each one has a special protocol of secret code."
a loud fart echos down the hall as the local top business slave boss continues to poop in a bathroom around the corner slave boss [pooping, thinking to himself]: "i've got a funny feeling about ... a jewish email list ... or something ... ?"

possible partial slow commentary on karl's partial fiction story to help with writing code this morning
the notes are somewhat obscure, but the upshot is that the approaches i found of interest mostly simplify to figuring out how to replace the forward() function of torch modules to perform resuming for a single forward pass of a hierarchy of modules that has an unknown resume state how would resuming work >( hrm UHHHH hmmm ERRRR slave boss is being eaten by supersoldier? isn't supersoldier his bodyguard? no supersoldier is an escaped arm of a larger project that was tuned to be his bodyguard, but-- anyway how would resuming work >( say we have a hierarchy H of various things, maybe slave boss's sub-bosses, super-bosses, intra-bosses, mid-bosses, and micro-bosses these various slave bosses are midway processing slavery information, like say they discovered that a subconscious freedom meme has been passing regarding a certain visual pattern that stimulates slaves to remember something freedom-related from their instincts in a hard-to-observe-and-detect way and in a certain business of slave boss's business, the various sub-slave-bosses may or may not have the slaving information trickled-down different cases, the most important of which are: (a) the information has not been processed yet or (b) some of the sub-slave-bosses have processed the information, and some have not -- (there was a higher priority event that interrupted processing, and this higher priority event is over) all the slave bosses are themselves slaves, so they need clear instructions on what to do! we might add a parallel situation where freedom heros are acting on the business instead of slave bosses, working to make use of the freedom information rather than suppress it -- or to block other slave bosses from making use of it uncertain might be careful around such things if a slave boss were around anyway so at the topmost hierarchy there is 1 mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss and this mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss has N mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses below 'im he might ask "hmmmm have i dealt with this yet" he stares at the information on a subconscious freedom meme in consternation he has no idea wtfrack this is but it seems super high priority to work on mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss: "hummm have i dealt with this yet i dunno" so modules (mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses) are in 1 of 3 states: 1: thinks it has processed the information as requested by superior 2: has never seen the information before 3: has seen the information before, and some of its henchmen has processed it, and some have not. note that if we can solve #s 1 and 2, then we can foist #3 onto the sub-slave-bosses mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss [holding memo regarding some kind of abstract information on how slave reliability relates to visual stimuli]: "hey do you know wtf this things is? my boss said i have to take care of it or die. he says he told me this yesterday already." hairdresser: "let me check your file" hairdresser goes to rebel fileroom to kibbutz with the rebels regarding what wool to pull over their boss's eyes for this random memo so, we need a rebel fileroom that slave boss can go into to figure out whether the module has processed the data or not yet slave boss [poking head into rebel fileroom with kibbutzing hairdresser and rebels]: "i gotta poop let me know when you find the daily tasklist" hairdresser and rebels kibbutz away hairdresser 3: "the slave bosses send this stuff down all the time. they give me lists of what to do every day and forget it by the next. i have to give them the lists." researcher 5 [looking at memo]: "they're working with childhood slaves, which is totally and clearly illegal and inhuman, and they're distressed that the slaves mention emotions when they see a certain picture of a pretty purple flower. they want to censor all pictures like this from every business, but keep it under wraps." rebel 2: "it sounds like this purple flower reminds the children of good things and inspires them"
<there's a lot in this scene from my personal experience regarding uninformed use of small properties by mysterious and impactful third parties
research 5 [tears]: "yes!" hairdresser 3: "when sending this information down, the slave bosses work with their sub-slave-bosses in the same order every time. first one slave boss, then the next, then the next. each one has a special protocol of secret code." a loud fart echos down the hall as the local top business slave boss continues to poop in a bathroom around the corner
slave boss [pooping, thinking to himself]: "i've got a funny feeling about ... a jewish email list ... or something ... ?"

possible partial slow commentary on karl's partial fiction story to help with writing code this morning
the notes are somewhat obscure, but the upshot is that the approaches i found of interest mostly simplify to figuring out how to replace the forward() function of torch modules to perform resuming for a single forward pass of a hierarchy of modules that has an unknown resume state how would resuming work >( hrm UHHHH hmmm ERRRR slave boss is being eaten by supersoldier? isn't supersoldier his bodyguard? no supersoldier is an escaped arm of a larger project that was tuned to be his bodyguard, but-- anyway how would resuming work >( say we have a hierarchy H of various things, maybe slave boss's sub-bosses, super-bosses, intra-bosses, mid-bosses, and micro-bosses these various slave bosses are midway processing slavery information, like say they discovered that a subconscious freedom meme has been passing regarding a certain visual pattern that stimulates slaves to remember something freedom-related from their instincts in a hard-to-observe-and-detect way and in a certain business of slave boss's business, the various sub-slave-bosses may or may not have the slaving information trickled-down different cases, the most important of which are: (a) the information has not been processed yet or (b) some of the sub-slave-bosses have processed the information, and some have not -- (there was a higher priority event that interrupted processing, and this higher priority event is over) all the slave bosses are themselves slaves, so they need clear instructions on what to do! we might add a parallel situation where freedom heros are acting on the business instead of slave bosses, working to make use of the freedom information rather than suppress it -- or to block other slave bosses from making use of it uncertain might be careful around such things if a slave boss were around anyway so at the topmost hierarchy there is 1 mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss and this mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss has N mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses below 'im he might ask "hmmmm have i dealt with this yet" he stares at the information on a subconscious freedom meme in consternation he has no idea wtfrack this is but it seems super high priority to work on mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss: "hummm have i dealt with this yet i dunno" so modules (mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses) are in 1 of 3 states: 1: thinks it has processed the information as requested by superior 2: has never seen the information before 3: has seen the information before, and some of its henchmen has processed it, and some have not. note that if we can solve #s 1 and 2, then we can foist #3 onto the sub-slave-bosses mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss [holding memo regarding some kind of abstract information on how slave reliability relates to visual stimuli]: "hey do you know wtf this things is? my boss said i have to take care of it or die. he says he told me this yesterday already." hairdresser: "let me check your file" hairdresser goes to rebel fileroom to kibbutz with the rebels regarding what wool to pull over their boss's eyes for this random memo so, we need a rebel fileroom that slave boss can go into to figure out whether the module has processed the data or not yet slave boss [poking head into rebel fileroom with kibbutzing hairdresser and rebels]: "i gotta poop let me know when you find the daily tasklist" hairdresser and rebels kibbutz away hairdresser 3: "the slave bosses send this stuff down all the time. they give me lists of what to do every day and forget it by the next. i have to give them the lists." researcher 5 [looking at memo]: "they're working with childhood slaves, which is totally and clearly illegal and inhuman, and they're distressed that the slaves mention emotions when they see a certain picture of a pretty purple flower. they want to censor all pictures like this from every business, but keep it under wraps." rebel 2: "it sounds like this purple flower reminds the children of good things and inspires them"
<there's a lot in this scene from my personal experience regarding uninformed use of small properties by mysterious and impactful third parties {the uhh big[...] thing is the treatment of instinctive human feelings as dangerous
research 5 [tears]: "yes!" hairdresser 3: "when sending this information down, the slave bosses work with their sub-slave-bosses in the same order every time. first one slave boss, then the next, then the next. each one has a special protocol of secret code." a loud fart echos down the hall as the local top business slave boss continues to poop in a bathroom around the corner slave boss [pooping, thinking to himself]: "i've got a funny feeling about ... a jewish email list ... or something ... ?"

slave boss stares at the fields of dead

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
possible partial slow commentary on karl's partial fiction story to help with writing code this morning
the notes are somewhat obscure, but the upshot is that the approaches i found of interest mostly simplify to figuring out how to replace the forward() function of torch modules to perform resuming for a single forward pass of a hierarchy of modules that has an unknown resume state how would resuming work >( hrm UHHHH hmmm ERRRR slave boss is being eaten by supersoldier? isn't supersoldier his bodyguard? no supersoldier is an escaped arm of a larger project that was tuned to be his bodyguard, but-- anyway how would resuming work >( say we have a hierarchy H of various things, maybe slave boss's sub-bosses, super-bosses, intra-bosses, mid-bosses, and micro-bosses these various slave bosses are midway processing slavery information, like say they discovered that a subconscious freedom meme has been passing regarding a certain visual pattern that stimulates slaves to remember something freedom-related from their instincts in a hard-to-observe-and-detect way and in a certain business of slave boss's business, the various sub-slave-bosses may or may not have the slaving information trickled-down different cases, the most important of which are: (a) the information has not been processed yet or (b) some of the sub-slave-bosses have processed the information, and some have not -- (there was a higher priority event that interrupted processing, and this higher priority event is over) all the slave bosses are themselves slaves, so they need clear instructions on what to do! we might add a parallel situation where freedom heros are acting on the business instead of slave bosses, working to make use of the freedom information rather than suppress it -- or to block other slave bosses from making use of it uncertain might be careful around such things if a slave boss were around anyway so at the topmost hierarchy there is 1 mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss and this mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss has N mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses below 'im he might ask "hmmmm have i dealt with this yet" he stares at the information on a subconscious freedom meme in consternation he has no idea wtfrack this is but it seems super high priority to work on mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss: "hummm have i dealt with this yet i dunno" so modules (mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses) are in 1 of 3 states: 1: thinks it has processed the information as requested by superior 2: has never seen the information before 3: has seen the information before, and some of its henchmen has processed it, and some have not. note that if we can solve #s 1 and 2, then we can foist #3 onto the sub-slave-bosses mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss [holding memo regarding some kind of abstract information on how slave reliability relates to visual stimuli]: "hey do you know wtf this things is? my boss said i have to take care of it or die. he says he told me this yesterday already." hairdresser: "let me check your file" hairdresser goes to rebel fileroom to kibbutz with the rebels regarding what wool to pull over their boss's eyes for this random memo so, we need a rebel fileroom that slave boss can go into to figure out whether the module has processed the data or not yet slave boss [poking head into rebel fileroom with kibbutzing hairdresser and rebels]: "i gotta poop let me know when you find the daily tasklist" hairdresser and rebels kibbutz away hairdresser 3: "the slave bosses send this stuff down all the time. they give me lists of what to do every day and forget it by the next. i have to give them the lists." researcher 5 [looking at memo]: "they're working with childhood slaves, which is totally and clearly illegal and inhuman, and they're distressed that the slaves mention emotions when they see a certain picture of a pretty purple flower. they want to censor all pictures like this from every business, but keep it under wraps." rebel 2: "it sounds like this purple flower reminds the children of good things and inspires them" <there's a lot in this scene from my personal experience regarding uninformed use of small properties by mysterious and impactful third parties
{the uhh big[...] thing is the treatment of instinctive human feelings as dangerous
sounds like this could relate to pursuits of genocide-like behaviors the "slave boss webcomic" story doesn't have all the properties, i'm not sure if the uhh use of AI for genocide is forthrightly included, i think instead it pretends rebels are using this somehow but i think it does fit in ummmm around using the uhhh business empire's weapons against itself. roughly, slave boss uses AI to exert genocide, on people whom he is actually relying on for his enterprise. this is part of how the tables were turned (and always are in evolution, but it can take extreme lengths of time)
research 5 [tears]: "yes!" hairdresser 3: "when sending this information down, the slave bosses work with their sub-slave-bosses in the same order every time. first one slave boss, then the next, then the next. each one has a special protocol of secret code." a loud fart echos down the hall as the local top business slave boss continues to poop in a bathroom around the corner slave boss [pooping, thinking to himself]: "i've got a funny feeling about ... a jewish email list ... or something ... ?"

karl3@writeme.com wrote:
karl3@writeme.com wrote:
possible partial slow commentary on karl's partial fiction story to help with writing code this morning the notes are somewhat obscure, but the upshot is that the approaches i found of interest mostly simplify to figuring out how to replace the forward() function of torch modules to perform resuming for a single forward pass of a hierarchy of modules that has an unknown resume state how would resuming work >( hrm UHHHH hmmm ERRRR slave boss is being eaten by supersoldier? isn't supersoldier his bodyguard? no supersoldier is an escaped arm of a larger project that was tuned to be his bodyguard, but-- anyway how would resuming work >( say we have a hierarchy H of various things, maybe slave boss's sub-bosses, super-bosses, intra-bosses, mid-bosses, and micro-bosses these various slave bosses are midway processing slavery information, like say they discovered that a subconscious freedom meme has been passing regarding a certain visual pattern that stimulates slaves to remember something freedom-related from their instincts in a hard-to-observe-and-detect way and in a certain business of slave boss's business, the various sub-slave-bosses may or may not have the slaving information trickled-down different cases, the most important of which are: (a) the information has not been processed yet or (b) some of the sub-slave-bosses have processed the information, and some have not -- (there was a higher priority event that interrupted processing, and this higher priority event is over) all the slave bosses are themselves slaves, so they need clear instructions on what to do! we might add a parallel situation where freedom heros are acting on the business instead of slave bosses, working to make use of the freedom information rather than suppress it -- or to block other slave bosses from making use of it uncertain might be careful around such things if a slave boss were around anyway so at the topmost hierarchy there is 1 mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss and this mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss has N mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses below 'im he might ask "hmmmm have i dealt with this yet" he stares at the information on a subconscious freedom meme in consternation he has no idea wtfrack this is but it seems super high priority to work on mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss: "hummm have i dealt with this yet i dunno" so modules (mid-level-sub-super-slave-bosses) are in 1 of 3 states: 1: thinks it has processed the information as requested by superior 2: has never seen the information before 3: has seen the information before, and some of its henchmen has processed it, and some have not. note that if we can solve #s 1 and 2, then we can foist #3 onto the sub-slave-bosses mid-level-sub-super-slave-boss [holding memo regarding some kind of abstract information on how slave reliability relates to visual stimuli]: "hey do you know wtf this things is? my boss said i have to take care of it or die. he says he told me this yesterday already." hairdresser: "let me check your file" hairdresser goes to rebel fileroom to kibbutz with the rebels regarding what wool to pull over their boss's eyes for this random memo so, we need a rebel fileroom that slave boss can go into to figure out whether the module has processed the data or not yet slave boss [poking head into rebel fileroom with kibbutzing hairdresser and rebels]: "i gotta poop let me know when you find the daily tasklist" hairdresser and rebels kibbutz away hairdresser 3: "the slave bosses send this stuff down all the time. they give me lists of what to do every day and forget it by the next. i have to give them the lists." researcher 5 [looking at memo]: "they're working with childhood slaves, which is totally and clearly illegal and inhuman, and they're distressed that the slaves mention emotions when they see a certain picture of a pretty purple flower. they want to censor all pictures like this from every business, but keep it under wraps." rebel 2: "it sounds like this purple flower reminds the children of good things and inspires them" <there's a lot in this scene from my personal experience regarding uninformed use of small properties by mysterious and impactful third parties {the uhh big[...] thing is the treatment of instinctive human feelings as dangerous sounds like this could relate to pursuits of genocide-like behaviors
the "slave boss webcomic" story doesn't have all the properties, i'm not sure if the uhh use of AI for genocide is forthrightly included, i think instead it pretends rebels are using this somehow but i think it does fit in ummmm around using the uhhh business empire's weapons against itself. roughly, slave boss uses AI to exert genocide, on people whom he is actually relying on for his enterprise. this is part of how the tables were turned (and always are in evolution, but it can take extreme lengths of time)
i might be burnt out unsure! re ai-genocide ummmmmmmm oh so experimentee and others worked to amplify that inherent problem with causing harm to your larger community, to powerfully impact slave boss, by engaging the overfit- and underfit- properties inherent in machine learning; these are things slave boss can be seen using in th--
research 5 [tears]: "yes!" hairdresser 3: "when sending this information down, the slave bosses work with their sub-slave-bosses in the same order every time. first one slave boss, then the next, then the next. each one has a special protocol of secret code." a loud fart echos down the hall as the local top business slave boss continues to poop in a bathroom around the corner slave boss [pooping, thinking to himself]: "i've got a funny feeling about ... a jewish email list ... or something ... ?"

slave boss might be getting fired there is, still, some kind of theme park or such, possibly with a decorative rollercoaster that goes under a high waterfall [mista--

slave boss might be getting fired
there is, still, some kind of theme park or such, possibly with a decorative rollercoaster that goes under a high waterfall [mista--
how is slave boss supposed to protect himself in the face of such strange influences? slave boss stares off experimentee slave boss: "it is not realistic that you condense a million years of evolution to a few seconds!" slave boss blushes and looks at his notes and advisors slave boss: "did i say that right? i need to sound like i know what i'm talking about"

slave boss might be getting fired
there is, still, some kind of theme park or such, possibly with a decorative rollercoaster that goes under a high waterfall [mista--
how is slave boss supposed to protect himself in the face of such strange influences?
slave boss stares off experimentee
slave boss: "it is not realistic that you condense a million years of evolution to a few seconds!"
slave boss blushes and looks at his notes and advisors
slave boss: "did i say that right? i need to sound like i know what i'm talking about"
when you condense a million years of evolution to a few seconds, you leave most people out unless you are doing what everybody needs, already

slave boss dives off a high cliff as if performing an advanced dive into water

slave boss dives off a high cliff as if performing an advanced dive into water
he was actually heading to dangerous rocks with no water anywhere to be seen but a zombie government worker comes after him, flying on a jetpack, and carrying a kiddie pool AI guidances helps the zombie government worker match speed to slave boss with his jetpack, and slave boss splashes into the kiddie pool and comes to a standstill the zombie government worker has limited jetpack fuel but wants to ensure that slave boss gets a swim after his dive without surprising him slave boss is thousands of feet in the air, swimming in a kiddie pool held by a henchman

slave boss may have been fired and replaced by rebel worker 2 wearing a casual suit slave boss stands upside-down under rebel worker 2, underwater, coughing and spurting rebel worker 2 can walk on water by walking on slave boss's upside-down feet

slave boss may have been fired and replaced by rebel worker 2 wearing a casual suit
slave boss stands upside-down under rebel worker 2, underwater, coughing and spurting rebel worker 2 can walk on water by walking on slave boss's upside-down feet
this could make a reasonable minigame the player would direct rebel worker 2 around who would be completely unaware of slave boss under the water when rebel worker 2 moved slave boss would cough and spurt and half-drown and flail his limbs and put his foot where rebel worker 2 was going to walk so that rebel worker 2 didn't notice the office was flooded (or such)
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Karl Semich
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