*SPAM* RE: Dan Kaminsky Dies from Vaccine
Spam detection software, running on the system "mail.pglaf.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Content analysis details: (4.3 points, 4.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.3 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see <https://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?37.120.193.123>] 0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED RBL: ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to DNSWL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [37.120.193.123 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [37.120.193.123 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 1.3 RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL RBL: Relay in Validity RPBL, https://senderscore.org/blocklistlookup/ [37.120.193.123 listed in bl.score.senderscore.com] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS 2.8 DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX Delivered direct to MX with Outlook headers
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 1:49 PM lolwut <lolwut9001@cock.li> wrote:
Spam detection software, running on the system "mail.pglaf.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details.
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Content analysis details: (4.3 points, 4.0 required)
pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.3 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see < https://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?37.120.193.123>] 0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED RBL: ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to DNSWL was blocked. See
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [37.120.193.123 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [37.120.193.123 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 1.3 RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL RBL: Relay in Validity RPBL, https://senderscore.org/blocklistlookup/ [37.120.193.123 listed in bl.score.senderscore.com] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS 2.8 DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX Delivered direct to MX with Outlook headers
It is so so so so wonderful to see this beginning of AI transparency. I'm honestly sorry you're having trouble communicating. We are too. I wonder if pglaf.org lets the user configure what metrics they want to use.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: lolwut <lolwut9001@cock.li> To: <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 13:48:29 -0400 Subject: RE: Dan Kaminsky Dies from Vaccine -----Original Message----- From: cypherpunks [mailto:cypherpunks-bounces@lists.cpunks.org] On Behalf Of Shawn K. Quinn Sent: Wednesday, 28 April, 2021 9:36 PM To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: *SPAM* RE: DAN KAMINSKY DIES FROM VACCINE
On 4/28/21 16:50, lolwut wrote:
Shawn, you should take a look at [link removed] I looked at it, and it looks like the typical conspiracy theory horseshit.
COVID-19 is real, it can definitely kill you, and it is definitely "not just the flu". Thankfully, the pandemic (note, no "l") appears to be almost over.
-- Shawn K. Quinn <skquinn@rushpost.com> http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com
It's fine that you disagree, and it's fine
It's so so wonderful to speak including multiple viewpoints! that you call it "conspiracy
theory horseshit", but don't be a dick
It's so hard for people to communicate when others are insulting them. It is harder to be personally insulted than have one's values insulted, but both are real, because we hold our values for real reasons. and deliberately tell everyone that
you've removed (read: censored) the link with "[link removed]" when quoting
You feel hurt, seeing this. I suspect that shawn would understand that feeling if they knew of it. my previous message. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html You
can trim out quoted sections for purposes of brevity, of course, but it's clear in this instance that that wasn't your aim. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html In prior messages with Punk, I recall, you also seemed quite keen in obsessively and condescending "correcting" his messages when quoting him (e.g., if he wrote "jew", you would replace it with "[Jew]") as a cheap and easy way to look like the smart one.
Woah, what a dangerous lie! That's not why someone would do that. But only people interested would notice. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html
Even if you don't agree with the statement of the author of that page that the coronavirus isn't real, that isn't the
It is so, so wonderful to speak including multiple viewpoints !!! entire content of the page.
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html I personally think that it is real, and that it can kill you, but not any more than the seasonal flu;
and that, regardless of its actual It is so, so wonderful to speak including multiple viewpoints . danger, the lockdowns cannot be
Ohhhh so you're talking about lockdowns. It's way down here at the end. Did you know that clicking links can get you profiled and targeted, and many people are in air-gapped computing situations where the internet is not available? What countries and communities have had lockdowns? I'm probably less passionate about this becaise I have the same travel freedoms during it as before it. justified. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html You believe your link to be harmless. I murdered somebody once. These things are just small attempts to share information. My victim was a slug, about an inch long. There are AIs tracking what we click and refer to, and nowadays even hiring people to do the same. We don't understand how they work, and a _lot_ of people are getting very hurt. I love you, I'm honestly sorry, and we are all and both of us together going to fucking escape and make this right.
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 1:49 PM lolwut <lolwut9001@cock.li> wrote:
Spam detection software, running on the system "mail.pglaf.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details.
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It's obviously important that automated engines make their information clear to non-technical people. There is a lot of active ongoing work around that. I'm not sure if there is as much work on the topic of making sure people have a reliable path to relate their needs to the algorithms, to fix the algorothms when they are wrong. That's equally important. Content analysis details: (4.3 points, 4.0 required)
It's saying it added and subtracted some numbers, has been configured to block emails where the sum is greater than 4, and this sum was 4.3 . It starts with 0 points. pts rule name description
---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000]
It subtracted 1.9 because this metric said the email was not spam. I think Bayes is statistical guesses that update themselves based on new information. They said 0% probability of spam. -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record
The points stayed at -1.9 . I think this metric says you are not pretending to be somebody else. 1.3 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in
bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see < https://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?37.120.193.123>]
1.3 points were added because a blacklisted relay sent the email. The server is configured to check spamcop.net for blacklisted mail relays. The address of the blacklisted relay is thr numbers in the url: 37.120.193.123 . Points are now -0.6 . 0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED RBL: ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to
DNSWL was blocked. See
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [37.120.193.123 listed in list.dnswl.org]
This is hitting another blocklist on the same ip address, but since the metric's points are configured to be 0 it doesn't affect the score. -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2)
[37.120.193.123 listed in wl.mailspike.net]
This also didn't affect the score, but also indicates that the same relay ip is in another filtering database. 1.3 RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL RBL: Relay in Validity RPBL,
https://senderscore.org/blocklistlookup/ [37.120.193.123 listed in bl.score.senderscore.com]
This is another filtering database. It raises the score to 0.7 . -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record
No points change. 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not
necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain
This is a fudge whoever configured the filter made, to slightly help emails with dkim signatures. It drops the spam score 0.6 . 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no
rDNS
Score rises to 1.4 . Looks like it's configured to have this happen when an address doesn't reverse lookup. In my opinion, this is a metric that is clearly biased against private mail setups, and should likely be removed. 2.8 DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX Delivered direct to MX with Outlook headers
Score rises to 4.2, preventing delivery. The name "DOS" in the metric implies it is there to protect against denial of service attacks. I don't really know what the metric does, but since you're behaving sketchily, that's all I'm saying immediately, but it's probably easy to figure out. The concern would be a virus affecting users of outlook. What's important is that the email was blocked because the headers say it was sent with Outlook. Outlook is known to work with a corporate mafia and a national government. It's really important to use a safer mail client. Of course, I am using gmail, myself, which has the same issue. Rather than blocking the email, the server should tell the poster to use a safer client, and link them to one. I'm thinking on that myself. What would help me get off gmail? What would help others get off windows? Questions to think on. There's clearly an error here since I got a sum of 4.2 and the system got one of 4.3 . Sorry for the coercion, still learning to stop. Gotta be workable ways to call that out. ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: lolwut <lolwut9001@cock.li> To: <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 13:48:29 -0400 Subject: RE: Dan Kaminsky Dies from Vaccine -----Original Message----- From: cypherpunks [mailto:cypherpunks-bounces@lists.cpunks.org] On Behalf Of Shawn K. Quinn Sent: Wednesday, 28 April, 2021 9:36 PM To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: *SPAM* RE: DAN KAMINSKY DIES FROM VACCINE
On 4/28/21 16:50, lolwut wrote:
Shawn, you should take a look at [link removed] I looked at it, and it looks like the typical conspiracy theory horseshit.
COVID-19 is real, it can definitely kill you, and it is definitely "not just the flu". Thankfully, the pandemic (note, no "l") appears to be almost over.
-- Shawn K. Quinn <skquinn@rushpost.com> http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com
It's fine that you disagree, and it's fine that you call it "conspiracy theory horseshit", but don't be a dick and deliberately tell everyone that you've removed (read: censored) the link with "[link removed]" when quoting my previous message. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html You can trim out quoted sections for purposes of brevity, of course, but it's clear in this instance that that wasn't your aim. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html In prior messages with Punk, I recall, you also seemed quite keen in obsessively and condescending "correcting" his messages when quoting him (e.g., if he wrote "jew", you would replace it with "[Jew]") as a cheap and easy way to look like the smart one. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html
Even if you don't agree with the statement of the author of that page that the coronavirus isn't real, that isn't the entire content of the page. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html I personally think that it is real, and that it can kill you, but not any more than the seasonal flu; and that, regardless of its actual danger, the lockdowns cannot be justified. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html
Greg, can you clarify whether or not the list is doing spam filtering? On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 1:49 PM lolwut <lolwut9001@cock.li> wrote:
Spam detection software, running on the system "mail.pglaf.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details.
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Content analysis details: (4.3 points, 4.0 required)
pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.3 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see < https://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?37.120.193.123>] 0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED RBL: ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to DNSWL was blocked. See
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [37.120.193.123 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [37.120.193.123 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 1.3 RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL RBL: Relay in Validity RPBL, https://senderscore.org/blocklistlookup/ [37.120.193.123 listed in bl.score.senderscore.com] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS 2.8 DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX Delivered direct to MX with Outlook headers
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: lolwut <lolwut9001@cock.li> To: <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 13:48:29 -0400 Subject: RE: Dan Kaminsky Dies from Vaccine -----Original Message----- From: cypherpunks [mailto:cypherpunks-bounces@lists.cpunks.org] On Behalf Of Shawn K. Quinn Sent: Wednesday, 28 April, 2021 9:36 PM To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: *SPAM* RE: DAN KAMINSKY DIES FROM VACCINE
On 4/28/21 16:50, lolwut wrote:
Shawn, you should take a look at [link removed] I looked at it, and it looks like the typical conspiracy theory horseshit.
COVID-19 is real, it can definitely kill you, and it is definitely "not just the flu". Thankfully, the pandemic (note, no "l") appears to be almost over.
-- Shawn K. Quinn <skquinn@rushpost.com> http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com
It's fine that you disagree, and it's fine that you call it "conspiracy theory horseshit", but don't be a dick and deliberately tell everyone that you've removed (read: censored) the link with "[link removed]" when quoting my previous message. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html You can trim out quoted sections for purposes of brevity, of course, but it's clear in this instance that that wasn't your aim. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html In prior messages with Punk, I recall, you also seemed quite keen in obsessively and condescending "correcting" his messages when quoting him (e.g., if he wrote "jew", you would replace it with "[Jew]") as a cheap and easy way to look like the smart one. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html
Even if you don't agree with the statement of the author of that page that the coronavirus isn't real, that isn't the entire content of the page. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html I personally think that it is real, and that it can kill you, but not any more than the seasonal flu; and that, regardless of its actual danger, the lockdowns cannot be justified. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html It's hard to go through this. Are you saying that operatives are poisoning us under the guise of coronavirus? It's well-known that vaccines are not deadly. It is not well-known that ground glass was found in the lungs of the dead doctor who discovered the disease.
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