----- Forwarded message from Griffin Boyce <griffinboyce@gmail.com> ----- Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:51:09 -0400 From: Griffin Boyce <griffinboyce@gmail.com> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Appearing American and VPNs writ large User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130803 Thunderbird/17.0.8 Reply-To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org On 08/23/2013 12:41 PM, Nathan Suchy wrote:

I'd beg to differ. There are very good VPN providers that keep absolutely no logs so you would have anonymity in that case. I think a commercial vpn without logs is the best way to go but you could also handpick nodes (tor needs to have a auto feature which can auto pick nodes by country. Covert Browser for IOS allows you to pick your exit node. You're assuming that there's endpoint anonymity and that no one could correlate you connecting to Server A and a piece of traffic coming from Server A at the same time.

At a basic level, this type of correlation is responsible for Jeremy Hammond's arrest (his VPN disconnected from IRC right as he lost internet -- deniability is useless here). And any iOS device is likely keeping track of your recent server connections. If I had a week, I couldn't list all the cases where someone mislaid their trust in a service provider to protect them. Deniability is dead. What Tor provides is unlinkability. best, Griffin -- "Cypherpunks write code not flame wars." --Jurre van Bergen #Foucault / PGP: 0xAE792C97 / OTR: saint@jabber.ccc.de My posts, while frequently amusing, are not representative of the thoughts of my employer. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://ativel.com http://postbiota.org AC894EC5: 38A5 5F46 A4FF 59B8 336B 47EE F46E 3489 AC89 4EC5