All the times when I read River, I remember it's a pseudonym very used in sites of sex stories about BDSM or to contact eventual sexual partners. The same about Rain, Forest and other nicknames like these. I don't know if it was just a coincidence, a bad joke or if it is their nature, their sexual preference. Well, usually, a vanilla person would not choose this kind of pseudonym, but I really don't care about their sexual practices. I just think it's very fun see chaste, immaculate, innocent vanilla people using hardcore BDSM nicks. Really hypocrite, considering that Jake, in some moments, was judged for his sexuality, not for his character. I am late with some really important answers, but as I told to a contact some days later, and repeated to another person today, Jake always respected me and all my female friends a lot, acting like a real gentleman and, believe me, some of them are beautiful women and tried to flirt with him hardly. :P He was a very handsome, charismatic, sexy, famous, intelligent man, walking among lots of all kinds of activists, men and women, in several events around the whole world. Very glamorous. Becoming one of his lovers or girlfriends was a way of increasing social status, so he really refused a lot of crazy invasive people to avoid problems and being related to these people. He could have sex very easily, in all the places and parties, without "raping" someone. I saw it happening in person. He was very professional and gentle, refusing more intimate contacts in a polite and discreet way. He rejected one of my personal friends in a Brazilian event and she is a young intelligent woman, much more beautiful and interesting than me. It is strange for a 'serial rapist', a crazy psychopath, isn't it? :-/ Well, let's wait to discover what will happen. There are lots of things that simply don't make sense in all this drama. It would not be rational or reasonable. Kisses and hugs for all of you! :* <3 Ceci PS: - Ah, a silly curiosity! One of "Rivers" liked a lot to write about incest and bestiality, hardcore taboo themes in general, but I really liked her writing style, so I tried to contact her to ask about the choice of her pseudonym. I never received an answer, but it was an interesting experience. I think this River in special is a girl, not a guy, and she is very intelligent. Their stories are very disturbing - too 'eeck!!!' for my taste, ugh! -, but are intelligent and she got some archetypical desires, with subtle references to Greek legends. She is not a stupid girl trying to get audience. (Different of the j.a. group members' initial pattern, haha!!) Well, sex with animals is not vegan, but all the people are animals and I suppose her "lovers", if really exist, receive a good treatment. ;)

On 8/10/16, juan wrote:

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 14:02:36 -0600 Mirimir wrote:

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It does look more and more like an SJW lynching, doesn't it?

That was pretty much self-evident, from the start.

Similar to assassins, warriors are hardly ever some completely independant self actors... most are owned by their masters, assembled into bands and armies, tasked with orders, and compensated well, some possibly approaching doing it free for the mere subby joys of ass kissing...

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Being a sexually aggressive male seems dangerous in geek community.

Nope. It is dangerous in government circles. Especially americunt government circles.

... as such, to limit the possible reasons... to a relatively sizeable group of people getting in a bit too deep with their sex games, twittermania, and jealousy trips (a possibility some have mentioned as self-evident)... seems a bit narrow and foolish...

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to fuck everyone, and you have protected status ;)

... so look for the evidence of larger answers, protect ya neck while doing so, and duck and cover if you're holding some, because these days, the fuckbullets seem to be flying and even protected status of asylum hardly feels as safe as freedom...

On 08/11/2016 02:11 PM, juan wrote:

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 15:13:36 -0400 grarpamp wrote:

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On 8/10/16, juan wrote:

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On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 14:02:36 -0600 Mirimir wrote:

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It does look more and more like an SJW lynching, doesn't it?

That was pretty much self-evident, from the start.

Similar to assassins, warriors are hardly ever some completely independant self actors...

True. The ruling faction of the tor mafia, a US military contractor, settled some score with one of their 'ex' employees/accomplices.

And they did that by means of a feminist anti-sex lynching, which of course suits the military/american 'culture' of the tor corporation.

I didn't mean it was an 'ordinary' SWJ lynching only motivated by 'social' 'justice'. If that's what Mirimir thinks then I don't agree with him.

I agree with you about Tor mafia :( I also believe that SWJ lynching generally involves "social justice" only in bullshit Orwellian ways. Reminiscent of Red Guards :(

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most are owned by their masters, assembled into bands and armies, tasked with orders, and compensated well, some possibly approaching doing it free for the mere subby joys of ass kissing...

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Being a sexually aggressive male seems dangerous in geek community.

Nope. It is dangerous in government circles. Especially americunt government circles.

... as such, to limit the possible reasons... to a relatively sizeable group of people getting in a bit too deep with their sex games, twittermania, and jealousy trips (a possibility some have mentioned as self-evident)... seems a bit narrow and foolish...

True that.

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to fuck everyone, and you have protected status ;)

... so look for the evidence of larger answers, protect ya neck while doing so, and duck and cover if you're holding some, because these days, the fuckbullets seem to be flying and even protected status of asylum hardly feels as safe as freedom...

Well, Jake probably thought himself safe, being bisexual and all ;) But he didn't self-flagellate sufficiently, and got called out.

On Aug 10, 2016 8:42 PM, "Marina Brown" wrote:

On 08/10/2016 04:02 PM, Mirimir wrote:

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<SNIP>

Jake always considered himself a queer, bisexual man. It was part of his "problems" when he was publicly judged for his sexuality. A lot of moralist, hypocrite people judging his gender, his sexual preferences, not his character, his real acts. I've "lost" a "friend", because she said "Jake certainly raped these people, once he was promiscuous enough to have sexual intercourses with both genders". So much prejudice, aff... Very disgusting. Judge a person for their gender and for their sexuality is very stupid.

On Aug 10, 2016 9:52 PM, "Mirimir" wrote:

On 08/10/2016 06:17 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:

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So much prejudice, aff... Very disgusting. Judge a person for their

gender and for their sexuality is very stupid.

Just to be clear, I'm not judging anyone's sexuality. I'm pointing out

that the community has a double standard. That people like Jake who act male (even if they're gay or bisexual) get lynched. But people who are just as promiscuous, but act female or androgynous, get a pass. They get to be victims. I got your point, my love, but I do try to refuse this kind of social condescension, all these labels. I am not weaker for being a woman. I am not a victim. And yes, I think it's very disgusting when a person uses their gender to get benefits. And yes again, it was very depressing, really unfair and nocive to see how some people managed their labels against a "white North American man", being he really guilty or not. :(( This kind of fake situation creates more prejudice, and more stupid labels, and more and more social judgements. The real victims of rape, of all kinds of brutality and harassment, will lose their credibility, because of stupid fucking liars and it's sad, unfair, wrong and very, very hurtful for real victims! :(( In the other side, I already told you I have transgender friends and make volunteer work in LGBTQ groups, my love. There are much hate and intolerance against them. It's really hard. There is so much prejudice against them that it's really hard to discover the limits between true prejudice or not. Even working with them, in some moments, involuntarily, I make horrible gaffes. :( Once, I was explaining that a female trans friend was born a man and was waiting for her hormonal treatment and another trans friend said it was very offensive for everybody, because my friend always was a woman, since her birth. She was not born a man. I was talking about chromosomes, genetics only, but I hurt a friend involuntarily. :((( Do you understand how hard is having sensibility enough to avoid hurting fragile people, my love? So, be careful, please. Love you! :*

On 08/10/2016 08:17 PM, Mirimir wrote:

On 08/10/2016 05:35 PM, Marina Brown wrote:

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On 08/10/2016 04:02 PM, Mirimir wrote:

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On 08/10/2016 01:24 PM, grarpamp wrote:

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http://www.zeit.de/kultur/2016-08/jacob-appelbaum-rape-allegations-contradic...

Inconsistencies have emerged in the allegations of rape and sexual assault against American Internet activist Jacob Appelbaum. Reporting by the weekly newspaper DIE ZEIT shows there is considerable doubt about the veracity of the claims.

Tracking mentions... https://github.com/Enegnei/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor

It does look more and more like an SJW lynching, doesn't it?

Being a sexually aggressive male seems dangerous in geek community. Maybe that's why transgender whatever is becoming so popular. You get to fuck everyone, and you have protected status ;)

I'm just a cranky old transexual farmer who loves to work with privacy systems. No one wants to fuck this nearly 51 year old woman so really, Take your bigotry and fuck the hell off.

Sour grapes? ;)

Sour apples ! Buckets of them that even the chickens wont eat. .... but this is not about trans people. It's about the innocence or guilt of a high profile person in the community that many of us have come to love. Keep the bigotry out of it. --- Marina

No bigotry, just observation. Look at which promiscuous players have been targeted, and which are happily fucking away.

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Shut up and code.

--- Marina Brown

On 08/10/2016 10:00 PM, Mirimir wrote:

On 08/10/2016 07:42 PM, Marina Brown wrote:

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On 08/10/2016 08:17 PM, Mirimir wrote:

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On 08/10/2016 05:35 PM, Marina Brown wrote:

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On 08/10/2016 04:02 PM, Mirimir wrote:

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On 08/10/2016 01:24 PM, grarpamp wrote:

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http://www.zeit.de/kultur/2016-08/jacob-appelbaum-rape-allegations-contradic...

Inconsistencies have emerged in the allegations of rape and sexual assault against American Internet activist Jacob Appelbaum. Reporting by the weekly newspaper DIE ZEIT shows there is considerable doubt about the veracity of the claims.

Tracking mentions... https://github.com/Enegnei/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor

It does look more and more like an SJW lynching, doesn't it?

Being a sexually aggressive male seems dangerous in geek community. Maybe that's why transgender whatever is becoming so popular. You get to fuck everyone, and you have protected status ;)

I'm just a cranky old transexual farmer who loves to work with privacy systems. No one wants to fuck this nearly 51 year old woman so really, Take your bigotry and fuck the hell off.

Sour grapes? ;)

Sour apples ! Buckets of them that even the chickens wont eat.

.... but this is not about trans people. It's about the innocence or guilt of a high profile person in the community that many of us have come to love.

Maybe. Or maybe it's about a guy who got lynched, and why.

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Keep the bigotry out of it.

Just exactly how the fuck am I being bigoted?

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--- Marina

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No bigotry, just observation. Look at which promiscuous players have been targeted, and which are happily fucking away.

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Shut up and code.

--- Marina Brown

Mirimir - trying to make it about being trans is why i went after you. The reality of trans life is not immunity. It is generally discrimination and needing to watch your 6 for someone who is after you for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Wonder why i might want strong encryption and privacy ?

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 09:36:44PM -0600, Mirimir wrote:

On 08/10/2016 08:40 PM, Marina Brown wrote:

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On 08/10/2016 10:00 PM, Mirimir wrote:

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On 08/10/2016 07:42 PM, Marina Brown wrote:

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On 08/10/2016 08:17 PM, Mirimir wrote:

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On 08/10/2016 05:35 PM, Marina Brown wrote:

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On 08/10/2016 04:02 PM, Mirimir wrote: > On 08/10/2016 01:24 PM, grarpamp wrote: >> http://www.zeit.de/kultur/2016-08/jacob-appelbaum-rape-allegations-contradic... >> >> Inconsistencies have emerged in the allegations of rape and sexual >> assault against American Internet activist Jacob Appelbaum. Reporting >> by the weekly newspaper DIE ZEIT shows there is considerable doubt >> about the veracity of the claims. >> >> Tracking mentions... >> https://github.com/Enegnei/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor > > It does look more and more like an SJW lynching, doesn't it? > > Being a sexually aggressive male seems dangerous in geek community. > Maybe that's why transgender whatever is becoming so popular. You get to

Mirimir, I thought you were quite clear where you added "whatever" in your "transgender whatever" phrase ... as in "transgender, queer, bi, blah blah blah whatever...". At least that's how I read it, and as you point out - an observation, with no judgement or bigotry that I could discern.

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> fuck everyone, and you have protected status ;) > >

I'm just a cranky old transexual farmer who loves to work with privacy systems. No one wants to fuck this nearly 51 year old woman so really, Take your bigotry and fuck the hell off.

Sour grapes? ;)

Sour apples ! Buckets of them that even the chickens wont eat.

.... but this is not about trans people. It's about the innocence or guilt of a high profile person in the community that many of us have come to love.

Maybe. Or maybe it's about a guy who got lynched, and why.

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Keep the bigotry out of it.

Just exactly how the fuck am I being bigoted?

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--- Marina

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No bigotry, just observation. Look at which promiscuous players have been targeted, and which are happily fucking away.

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Shut up and code.

--- Marina Brown

Mirimir - trying to make it about being trans is why i went after you.

My hypothesis is that the lynch mob is making it about being male and assertive (even if bisexual). Key members of the lynch mob are trans. Do you deny that? And they seem to cut each other slack. Right?

Everyone on the same page, just a dropped checksum I think...

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The reality of trans life is not immunity. It is generally discrimination and needing to watch your 6 for someone who is after you for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

For sure, that's generally true for being trans. But I'm talking about the lynch mob. Standards there seem very different.

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Wonder why i might want strong encryption and privacy ?

I don't wonder about that at all.

Now frankly Mirimir, even if you had expressed a personal sexual preference (for say, some personal definition of conservatism or whatever), that too MUST be entirely acceptable. Just to be clear. Peace all, Zenaan

On 08/10/2016 05:35 PM, Marina Brown wrote:

On 08/10/2016 04:02 PM, Mirimir wrote:

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On 08/10/2016 01:24 PM, grarpamp wrote:

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http://www.zeit.de/kultur/2016-08/jacob-appelbaum-rape-allegations-contradic...

Inconsistencies have emerged in the allegations of rape and sexual assault against American Internet activist Jacob Appelbaum. Reporting by the weekly newspaper DIE ZEIT shows there is considerable doubt about the veracity of the claims.

Tracking mentions... https://github.com/Enegnei/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor

It does look more and more like an SJW lynching, doesn't it?

Being a sexually aggressive male seems dangerous in geek community. Maybe that's why transgender whatever is becoming so popular. You get to fuck everyone, and you have protected status ;)

I'm just a cranky old transexual farmer who loves to work with privacy systems. No one wants to fuck this nearly 51 year old woman so really, Take your bigotry and fuck the hell off.

Also, by the way, I'm pointing out that the community is bigoted. That there is a double standard. So do you argue that it's bigoted to point out bigotry?

Shut up and code.

--- Marina Brown

On 8/11/16, Rayzer wrote:

to get ... that Anarchist Hacker ethic [gone]

The Hierarchy of Order is known not to tolerate such ethics, and doesn't fight a clean fight. Get dirty.

On 8/12/16, grarpamp wrote:

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Tracking mentions... https://github.com/Enegnei/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor

https://archive.is/A1EuX Jun 28th, 2016 dave chasteen, cia tor-internal Hi. Please be gentle.. https://contraspin.co.nz/orwells-swan-song-free-speech-activists-whitewashin... Orwell’s Swan Song: Free Speech Activists Whitewashing Wikipedia To Silence Dissent July 12, 2016 If you’d told me a year ago that I’d be writing a blogpost in July 2016 about how EFF and TorProject supporters are actively censoring free speech on the internet, I would have thought I’d be writing it for The Onion. Unfortunately, I’m not...

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:58:07 -0400 grarpamp wrote:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TOR/comments/4ydwhk/a_vote_of_no_confidence_in_shar...

submitted 8 hours ago by jrandomoperator [removed] Removed. Shouldn't americunts just give up?

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 10:58:07PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:

https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-project/2016-August/000669.html stderr at riseup.net stderr at riseup.net Thu Aug 18 19:53:00 UTC 2016 A Vote of No Confidence in Shari Steele: A Proposal For A Tor Relay Operator Strike.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TOR/comments/4ydwhk/a_vote_of_no_confidence_in_shar...

Great to see :D - well done whoever kicked that off.

"This is neither an endorsement of Jacob Appelbaum nor an endorsement of the accusations against him. At this point the Tor Project’s conduct is so reprehensible, that it doesn’t matter who is in the right — the leadership needs to go."

And how!

https://www.oneeyedman.net/?p=2589 Posted on August 18, 2016 by dwrob Tor Boycott Would Be Inappropriate

I can hear it now, "Vote 1 grarpamp, for Tor carnt leader"

https://twitter.com/jmprcx/status/766324296625053696 I started a non-SJW fork of the #tor browser. Binaries coming soon! https://github.com/joshuayabut/tor-browser-bundle

Reproducible builds should be near the top of the list of course. Perhaps a dicsussion on Tor Inc, it's funding, and alternatives is in order? It's all very well to create a TBB fork, but it would still rely on the existing CIA funded "tor" network. Perhaps seek grants from Russia's FSB, China's MSS, AND the USA's CIA? "For a --balanced-- spy^Wfree speech network." perhaps? Gotta sell it somehow...

On 08/18/2016 10:15 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

existing CIA funded "tor" network

Can you actually provide documentation the CIA funds the network itself en toto as opposed to, lets say, operating entrance and exit nodes? Rr On 08/18/2016 10:15 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 10:58:07PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:

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https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-project/2016-August/000669.html stderr at riseup.net stderr at riseup.net Thu Aug 18 19:53:00 UTC 2016 A Vote of No Confidence in Shari Steele: A Proposal For A Tor Relay Operator Strike.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TOR/comments/4ydwhk/a_vote_of_no_confidence_in_shar...

Great to see :D - well done whoever kicked that off.

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"This is neither an endorsement of Jacob Appelbaum nor an endorsement of the accusations against him. At this point the Tor Project’s conduct is so reprehensible, that it doesn’t matter who is in the right — the leadership needs to go."

And how!

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https://www.oneeyedman.net/?p=2589 Posted on August 18, 2016 by dwrob Tor Boycott Would Be Inappropriate

I can hear it now, "Vote 1 grarpamp, for Tor carnt leader"

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https://twitter.com/jmprcx/status/766324296625053696 I started a non-SJW fork of the #tor browser. Binaries coming soon! https://github.com/joshuayabut/tor-browser-bundle

Reproducible builds should be near the top of the list of course.

Perhaps a dicsussion on Tor Inc, it's funding, and alternatives is in order?

It's all very well to create a TBB fork, but it would still rely on the existing CIA funded "tor" network.

Perhaps seek grants from Russia's FSB, China's MSS, AND the USA's CIA?

"For a --balanced-- spy^Wfree speech network." perhaps? Gotta sell it somehow...

On 08/19/2016 05:04 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 07:35:53AM -0700, Juan's Tor Sock Puppet wrote:

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On 08/18/2016 10:15 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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existing CIA funded "tor" network

Can you actually provide documentation the CIA funds the network itself en toto as opposed to, lets say, operating entrance and exit nodes?

Rr

Kudos for your nick- belly laugh on that one :)

I think you're splitting hairs.

Whether it's the DOD or the CIA, some black budget line items, "third party" "arms length" (but CIA backed) financial contributors, or indeed perhaps that's why the lead Tor devs get $100K+ salaries - may be off the books, they're obliged to spend $30K of that on dir auths, exit nodes, whatever, or any combination of the above,

it's splitting hairs.

The primary funder on the books, from memory, is the DOD.

The primary beneficiary are the CIA crooks who run around the world attempting to overthrow governments around the world. They get to have a very fancy and very functional overlay "free speech" network to assist them with their dirty deeds.

Feel free to split hairs though - that only feeds the genuine concern.

I just want to remind you the Vietnamese whupped us with WWII vintage weapons, tiger traps, and pertinently ... sandals made from the tires of stolen US Jeeps. Tor might be that Jeep. A 'transparent and independently funded' fork of Tor seems to be appropriate. To continue the 'war' analogy You don't throw away a weapon just because it was made by the enemy but you DO check to see if it's boobytrapped and neutralize it before use. Rr

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 17:50:28 -0700 Razer wrote:

I just want to remind you the Vietnamese whupped us with WWII vintage weapons, tiger traps, and pertinently ... sandals made from the tires of stolen US Jeeps. Tor might be that Jeep.

rayzer just keeps going - vomiting propaganda.

A 'transparent and independently funded' fork of Tor seems to be appropriate. To continue the 'war' analogy You don't throw away a weapon just because it was made by the enemy but you DO check to see if it's boobytrapped and neutralize it before use.

Rr