Re: politicopunks@cpunks.org
If its only about politics, why add to the monotonous brain-rot drivel. Cypherpunks list covers politics and everything else, without chopping up into marked-up and branded packages: politics, civil liberties, NSA, crypto, privacy, online diddly. each with its own political agenda, lobbyists, PACs, Dear Leaders, bribery, followers, deranged oligarchs. Sure, cypherpunks suffers from the same diseases as politics but, praise the holy founders, suffers them all at once, not piecemeal, so develops anti-bodies for all of them, to send the worms and germs to fight it out on monodrone-weakened corpuses. Finally, last two hours of a question soon over, cypherpunks has gone through a long list of failures due to politics rising to the surface as if that's all there is worth cut-throating about. Offshoots have been set up to avoid politics as a topic, or some other forbidden fruit iconizing a moderator's tits and ads. From those cpunk-siphoning Ashley Madisons have come weirdly deformed creatures and mindsets, missing some capabilities, overloaded with others -- evolving into the frankensteins of secretkeeping, thematic dwarfs and thuggish giants, you might say, like politicians and their sharks, press agents, campaign and polling leeches determined and amply paid to make politics the premier gobbler of subscribers' beliefs and fellow soldiers of murderous religion.
On 9/10/15, John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote:
If its only about politics, why add to the monotonous brain-rot drivel.
One man's brain-rot drivel is another man's "ahah!" moment.
Cypherpunks list covers politics and everything else, without
That's what I thought ... except every now and then there are those who don't want to hear comparative Russia-USA political talk, or pro-Russia bias, or Australia-is-kinda-off-topic, or etc. It is not my will to bypass the consensus intention for cypherpunks@ list; far from it - thus in the face of the "please can we keep cypherpunks@ on-topic" whines, I figured we must be missing the list some of us would like. Whatever people want ... just needs to be clear, since "that's offtopic!!!!!" and "you know who you are" get a little tiring after a while...
chopping up into marked-up and branded packages: politics, civil liberties, NSA, crypto, privacy, online diddly. each with its own political agenda, lobbyists, PACs, Dear Leaders, bribery, followers, deranged oligarchs.
Sure. My intention with politicopunks@ was to actually be "everything that does not fit on cypherpunks@". Some fokls around here seem to think various political topics are offtopic for cypherpunks. I've only been here a year, so I don't really know and just want a forum where it's ok to post anything I personally find worth discussion.
Sure, cypherpunks suffers from the same diseases as politics but, praise the holy founders, suffers them all at once, not piecemeal, so develops anti-bodies for all of them, to send the worms and germs to fight it out on monodrone-weakened corpuses.
:)
Finally, last two hours of a question soon over, cypherpunks has gone through a long list of failures due to politics rising to the surface as if that's all there is worth cut-throating about. Offshoots have been set up to avoid politics as a topic, or some other forbidden fruit iconizing a moderator's tits and ads.
Forbidden fruit indeed - perfect terminology :) If cypherpunks be unforbidden - as long as a poster has the stomach to post - great :)
From those cpunk-siphoning Ashley Madisons have come weirdly deformed creatures and mindsets, missing some capabilities, overloaded with others -- evolving into the frankensteins of secretkeeping, thematic dwarfs and thuggish giants, you might say, like politicians and their sharks, press agents, campaign and polling leeches determined and amply paid to make politics the premier gobbler of subscribers' beliefs and fellow soldiers of murderous religion.
Thanks John, Zenaan
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:10:44AM +0000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: | On 9/10/15, John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote: | > If its only about politics, why add to the monotonous brain-rot drivel. | | One man's brain-rot drivel is another man's "ahah!" moment. Or, perhaps the lack of an immediate (or at least frictionless) outlet for brain-rot drivel might give one pause to consider whether it warrants posting. Perhaps the resistance you feel is not to politics but to the notability and usefulness of the content itself. It is my experience that such forks are borne of individuals resenting the friction inherent of open forums, not of wishing free and open discourse. If a forum is explicitly open and yet you experience resistance to your ideas there are two probable causes. One is that those resisting are fools, the other is that you're full of shit. One would do best to consider both equally (even simultaneously) probable.
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John Young
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