There are two spaces labeled "Urea Tank Room" in the NSA Utah Data Center's Generator Plant shown in construction drawings recently leaked: http://cryptome.org/2013-info/07/nsa-utah-dc/nsa-utah-dc.htm See Generator Plant floor plan drawing 11.2 A101 at bottom and top left, spaces labeled "UT." Urea is used in fuel cells. Are there other uses of urea in generator or data processing equipment?
On 07/28/2013 05:41 AM, John Young wrote:
There are two spaces labeled "Urea Tank Room" in the NSA Utah Data Center's Generator Plant shown in construction drawings recently leaked:
http://cryptome.org/2013-info/07/nsa-utah-dc/nsa-utah-dc.htm
Urea is used in fuel cells. Are there other uses of urea in generator or data processing equipment?
It is used to clean diesel exhaust. Eric
2013/8/4 b. brewer
we all want 'clean air'.
This is what concerned me too. They're in the middle of the desert. I doubt they really care about the air that much : / Just use the spy-sats to see if they move the right amount of urea. Seeing the trucks doesn't guarantee anything, but at least it looks legit. (Oh I wish I was a spy sometimes)
If I am remembering correctly, the ratio of AdBlue to diesel is 100 parts diesel to 1 part AdBlue, does anyone have a guesstimate on the volume of the tanks?
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At 05:41 AM 7/28/2013, John Young wrote:
There are two spaces labeled "Urea Tank Room" in the NSA Utah Data Center's Generator Plant shown in construction drawings recently leaked:
http://cryptome.org/2013-info/07/nsa-utah-dc/nsa-utah-dc.htm
See Generator Plant floor plan drawing 11.2 A101 at bottom and top left, spaces labeled "UT."
Urea is used in fuel cells. Are there other uses of urea in generator or data processing equipment?
It could also be a snide comment about being in Utah, or an alternative to a sign saying "These aren't the droids you're looking for" or "Beware of the leopard". Back in ~1990 when we bid on rewiring the Pentagon, there were a lot of "we can't tell you what's here" or "too secret to let you run wires through it" spaces, along with a bunch of areas that almost certainly had too much asbestos to actually run wires through the plenum. (Our prime contractor didn't win the bid, which was probably just as well for them.)
For the shrewd decryption of "UT" U R being sent a set of asbestos Underwear for eternal sleep protection at UG H. At 12:20 AM 7/29/2013, you wrote:
It could also be a snide comment about being in Utah, or an alternative to a sign saying "These aren't the droids you're looking for" or "Beware of the leopard".
Back in ~1990 when we bid on rewiring the Pentagon, there were a lot of "we can't tell you what's here" or "too secret to let you run wires through it" spaces, along with a bunch of areas that almost certainly had too much asbestos to actually run wires through the plenum. (Our prime contractor didn't win the bid, which was probably just as well for them.)
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