mm yeah. So, it turns out that due to a confusing mathematical relation, it's quite reasonable to add universal chaff to tor. On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:47 PM Zenaan Harkness wrote:

Remember muh wh.gger, you have the power under your hot little finger tippies, the power to NOT jump into this digital fight club frey :D

Feel free to exercise no restraint and -get- that communication happening though... to leave even an iota UNresponded to can be way, WAY too much though, so -your- response is usually considered (by -your- emotional body), as imperative critical important essential must be typed.

The power.

Da POWAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 09:15:34PM -0400, Karl wrote:

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Let the figureheads elect themselves.

I can't handle this. I'm in a state of mind where I don't know how to stop engaging the list, and my whole family is democratic. I hear stories of people suffering from Trump, most of my family has looked into citizenship in other countries out of fear of him.

I don't want to fight you, and I don't want to be responsible for more suffering if I don't.

Well I support security and trust. Is utopia on-topic? I have superpowers and don't want to destroy the list too much. Technological tools for trust? On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 10:07 PM \0xDynamite wrote:

Given Godel's Theorem, there is never, ever going to be a complete and secure system, so then:

Why not just create a world where you can trust each other??

duh, DUH!!!

Marcos

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 8:51 PM Karl wrote:

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mm yeah.

So, it turns out that due to a confusing mathematical relation, it's

quite reasonable to add universal chaff to tor.

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On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:47 PM Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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Remember muh wh.gger, you have the power under your hot little finger

tippies, the power to NOT jump into this digital fight club frey :D

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Feel free to exercise no restraint and -get- that communication

happening though... to leave even an iota UNresponded to can be way, WAY too much though, so -your- response is usually considered (by -your- emotional body), as imperative critical important essential must be typed.

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The power.

Da POWAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 09:15:34PM -0400, Karl wrote:

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Let the figureheads elect themselves.

I can't handle this. I'm in a state of mind where I don't know how

to stop

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engaging the list, and my whole family is democratic. I hear stories of people suffering from Trump, most of my family has looked into citizenship in other countries out of fear of him.

I don't want to fight you, and I don't want to be responsible for more suffering if I don't.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 03:39:55PM +1000, jamesd@echeque.com wrote:

On 2020-10-15 11:15, Karl wrote:

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Let the figureheads elect themselves.

I can't handle this. I'm in a state of mind where I don't know how to stop engaging the list, and my whole family is democratic. I hear stories of people suffering from Trump, most of my family has looked into citizenship in other countries out of fear of him.

They are just bullshitting, and a major reason why they are bullshitting is that they fear leftist violence.

We are getting Trump supporters shot dead in the street, leading

Latest example, write up by Michelle Malkin, this article banned by FaceBook: A Media-Political Assassination in Denver Michelle Malkin • October 13, 2020 • 900 Words https://www.unz.com/mmalkin/a-media-political-assassination-in-denver/ Do Colorado patriots’ lives matter? On a sunny Saturday afternoon, after gathering with Benghazi Marine hero John “Tig” Tiegen at Civic Center Plaza in Denver to show pride in America, hundreds of citizens departed a peaceful “Patriot Muster” feeling inspired. They filed out of the park bedecked in Old Glory, Thin Blue Line flags and MAGA hats. Some came in wheelchairs and walkers. Students, parents and grandparents all rallied. Military veterans turned out in force. Tiegen’s men came trained and prepared to defend their supporters. Denver police and Arapahoe County sheriff’s deputies kept better order. Remember: Three months ago, the “Back the Blue” rally that I attended with hundreds of others at the very same Civic Center Plaza was shut down by violent antifa and Black Lives Matter vigilantes. https://www.unz.com/mmalkin/one-nation-under-anarcho-tyranny/ Remember: The Denver police union president, Nick Rogers, blew the whistle on how top brass (led by a police chief who marched arm-in-arm with BLM protestors this summer) issued a retreat order while the mob trampled our constitutional rights to free speech and peaceable assembly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN-Mauf8VTQ In July, the thugs wielded metal rods, skateboards and megaphones to threaten and assault law-abiding citizens. Organizer Ron MacLachlan was beaten bloody just feet from me on stage. Republican statehouse candidate Laurel Imer was shoved down the stage steps by Black Lives Matter rioters. Conservative activist Lori Woods was allegedly assaulted by a crazed antifa agitator and repeat arrestee Caryn Sodaro — the only violent mob operative charged with a crime. https://twitter.com/JoeyCamp2020/status/1303137041656549376/photo/2 This time, Tiegen’s event went more smoothly. Barriers kept rioters from invading the plaza. Casper Stockham, a Black Republican congressional candidate who had also attended the “Back the Blue” fiasco, told me one prominent Black militant agitator called him a “house n—-a” and challenged him to a fight. The provocateur wore a “Black Guns Matter” T-shirt to deceive the conservative, pro-Second Amendment crowd. The same cretin later threatened to rape female attendees. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoSiirMBtLo “It was disgusting, but those types of things don’t stop me,” Stockham told me. The “Patriot Muster” almost went off with a single hitch. Almost. One man who answered the call to “stand up and show up” didn’t make it home. From my close analysis of footage and interviews with witnesses, it appears the tragedy was engineered. As the last group of “Patriot Muster” attendees walked to their cars, the same agitator who accosted Stockham and others also initiated a verbal altercation with 49-year-old Lee Keltner. A cheerful cowboy hat maker, veteran, and father of two from Brighton, Colorado, his mission was “keeping the West alive, one hat at a time.” While Keltner was trailed by the Black militant agitator, a Trump-hating Occupy Denver radical named Matthew Dolloff and a local NBC affiliate investigative producer for Denver’s 9News named Zack Newman conferred with each other nearby. At some point, Dolloff handed his cellphone to Newman. New composite of the Denver shooting including the footage from the producer's camera. Part 1/2. pic.twitter.com/DYYAxe8J33 — L 🤺 (@SomeBitchIKnow) October 14, 2020 Minutes later, photographers and videographers filmed the agitator aggressively daring Keltner to deploy a can of bear spray he was holding to protect himself as Dolloff and Newman stood by. Keltner resisted engaging in any physical brawl as the agitator escalated. Mere seconds later, he walked away from the agitator only to walk right into what appears to be a deadly ambush with Dolloff. In an instant, Dolloff appeared to grab for something on Keltner’s chest (his holstered weapon?) while Keltner slapped at his face. Dolloff then whipped out a gun and blew off Keltner’s face as the veteran backed away, spraying his repellant in self-defense. Newman gawked at the entire melee with two phones in his hand. But photos showed him, bizarrely, not filming the shooting despite being there on assignment for 9News. [NOTE to self: 9News USA/Denver hires murder co-conspirators.] This is the producer's view of the incident that 9NEWS has released today. He "stops filming for 12 seconds," but suddenly starts filming again AS he is being told to get on the ground by police. Interesting that he supposedly stopped filming, and started filming at that moment. https://t.co/jeVvb9azrP pic.twitter.com/yqqXXW3XKx — Kitty Shackleford (@KittyLists) October 14, 2020 Dolloff has been detained under investigation for first-degree murder. Newman was held, and then released. Here’s where it gets weirder and darker. 9News initially identified Dolloff as an armed private security guard contracted through Pinkerton security services. Turns out that he was unlicensed and operating as a security guard illegally in Denver. Pinkerton denied Dolloff was an employee and refuses to name the company, if one exists, that subcontracted Dolloff out. Newman did not respond to my questions about the exact nature of his relationship with Dolloff or how many previous times Dolloff had been his “security guard” at left-wing protests and riots over the past year. Unanswered questions are piling up: What did Newman and Dolloff discuss as they shadowed Keltner and the agitator? Did they have beef with Keltner? Did Newman or Dolloff know the agitator? Was Newman, who works for a station that has demonized conservatives all year long while whitewashing the left-wing trashing of downtown Denver, aware of Dolloff’s extensive social media footprint calling Donald Trump supporters racist fascists and posting “Rise Up” Communist revolutionary propaganda? "Had this shooting been the other way around, there'd be non-stop, 24-hr coverage of it…We've been trying to keep this story alive, because they're trying to bury it." –@casper4colorado, who attended #PatriotMuster, on #DenverShooting. #9NewsDoesntWantYouToKnow #LeeKeltnerRIP pic.twitter.com/0M40p7Cg8v — Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) October 13, 2020 What happened to Colorado patriot Lee Keltner should be a national outrage. It was, in my view, a brazen and cold-blooded media-political assassination. Casper Stockham agrees. “Imagine if this shooting had been the other way around,” Stockham said. “There would be nonstop, 24-hour coverage of it.” But because Keltner was part of the “Patriot Muster,” and not part of the “Mob Muster” or “Liberal Media Muster,” you’ll hear nothing but crickets from American Pravda. Their silence is violence. *** New Twitter thread tonight on Jeremiah Elliott, the BGM t-shirt-wearing professional agitator: NEW #denvershooting THREAD: So @kdvr posted unredacted version of affidavit/application for arrest warrant that names "Black Guns Matter" agitator who menaced Patriot Muster attendees Saturday & provoked confrontation w/ #LeeKeltner that led to his murder==> Jeremiah Elliott. /1 pic.twitter.com/VNPfm97k2U — Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) October 13, 2020

Republicans assaulted, approximately one hundred million in property damage.

Before Trump cleared Lafayette Park, they made a start on burning down his church, injured numerous cops, and drove normies out of the park with rocks.

They attempted to murder Kyle on video, and none of those attempting to murder him have been arrested or charged.

What has Trump been doing, what have Trump supporters been doing, that your family should feel afraid?

I watch this video. https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/kyle-rittenhouse-attorney-releases-video-in-se...

I have reason to feel afraid.

What makes your family feel afraid?

Okay, I'll be more believable. I'll vote for Trump if you can help me make sure a working affordable open source shielding measurement system is designed to completion. I'm happy to do something of your choosing _once_ to demonstrate this. On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 8:32 AM Karl wrote:

I'll vote for Trump if you help me build tools for electromagnetic security.

On 10/15/20, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 03:39:55PM +1000, jamesd@echeque.com wrote:

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On 2020-10-15 11:15, Karl wrote:

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Let the figureheads elect themselves.

I can't handle this. I'm in a state of mind where I don't know how to stop engaging the list, and my whole family is democratic. I hear stories of people suffering from Trump, most of my family has looked into citizenship in other countries out of fear of him.

They are just bullshitting, and a major reason why they are bullshitting is that they fear leftist violence.

We are getting Trump supporters shot dead in the street, leading

Latest example, write up by Michelle Malkin, this article banned by FaceBook:

A Media-Political Assassination in Denver Michelle Malkin • October 13, 2020 • 900 Words

https://www.unz.com/mmalkin/a-media-political-assassination-in-denver/

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Do Colorado patriots’ lives matter?

On a sunny Saturday afternoon, after gathering with Benghazi Marine hero John “Tig” Tiegen at Civic Center Plaza in Denver to show pride in America, hundreds of citizens departed a peaceful “Patriot Muster” feeling inspired. They filed out of the park bedecked in Old Glory, Thin Blue Line flags and MAGA hats. Some came in wheelchairs and walkers. Students, parents and grandparents all rallied. Military veterans turned out in force.

Tiegen’s men came trained and prepared to defend their supporters. Denver police and Arapahoe County sheriff’s deputies kept better order.

Remember: Three months ago, the “Back the Blue” rally that I attended with hundreds of others at the very same Civic Center Plaza was shut down by violent antifa and Black Lives Matter vigilantes. https://www.unz.com/mmalkin/one-nation-under-anarcho-tyranny/

Remember: The Denver police union president, Nick Rogers, blew the whistle on how top brass (led by a police chief who marched arm-in-arm with BLM protestors this summer) issued a retreat order while the mob trampled our constitutional rights to free speech and peaceable assembly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN-Mauf8VTQ

In July, the thugs wielded metal rods, skateboards and megaphones to threaten and assault law-abiding citizens. Organizer Ron MacLachlan was beaten bloody just feet from me on stage. Republican statehouse candidate Laurel Imer was shoved down the stage steps by Black Lives Matter rioters. Conservative activist Lori Woods was allegedly assaulted by a crazed antifa agitator and repeat arrestee Caryn Sodaro — the only violent mob operative charged with a crime.

https://twitter.com/JoeyCamp2020/status/1303137041656549376/photo/2

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This time, Tiegen’s event went more smoothly. Barriers kept rioters from invading the plaza. Casper Stockham, a Black Republican congressional candidate who had also attended the “Back the Blue” fiasco, told me one prominent Black militant agitator called him a “house n—-a” and challenged him to a fight. The provocateur wore a “Black Guns Matter” T-shirt to deceive the conservative, pro-Second Amendment crowd. The same cretin later threatened to rape female attendees. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoSiirMBtLo

“It was disgusting, but those types of things don’t stop me,” Stockham told me. The “Patriot Muster” almost went off with a single hitch. Almost.

One man who answered the call to “stand up and show up” didn’t make it home. From my close analysis of footage and interviews with witnesses, it appears the tragedy was engineered.

As the last group of “Patriot Muster” attendees walked to their cars, the same agitator who accosted Stockham and others also initiated a verbal altercation with 49-year-old Lee Keltner. A cheerful cowboy hat maker, veteran, and father of two from Brighton, Colorado, his mission was “keeping the West alive, one hat at a time.” While Keltner was trailed by the Black militant agitator, a Trump-hating Occupy Denver radical named Matthew Dolloff and a local NBC affiliate investigative producer for Denver’s 9News named Zack Newman conferred with each other nearby. At some point, Dolloff handed his cellphone to Newman.

New composite of the Denver shooting including the footage from the producer's camera. Part 1/2. pic.twitter.com/DYYAxe8J33 — L 🤺 (@SomeBitchIKnow) October 14, 2020

Minutes later, photographers and videographers filmed the agitator aggressively daring Keltner to deploy a can of bear spray he was holding to protect himself as Dolloff and Newman stood by. Keltner resisted engaging in any physical brawl as the agitator escalated. Mere seconds later, he walked away from the agitator only to walk right into what appears to be a deadly ambush with Dolloff. In an instant, Dolloff appeared to grab for something on Keltner’s chest (his holstered weapon?) while Keltner slapped at his face. Dolloff then whipped out a gun and blew off Keltner’s face as the veteran backed away, spraying his repellant in self-defense.

Newman gawked at the entire melee with two phones in his hand. But photos showed him, bizarrely, not filming the shooting despite being there on assignment for 9News.

[NOTE to self: 9News USA/Denver hires murder co-conspirators.]

This is the producer's view of the incident that 9NEWS has released today. He "stops filming for 12 seconds," but suddenly starts filming again AS he is being told to get on the ground by police. Interesting that he supposedly stopped filming, and started filming at that moment. https://t.co/jeVvb9azrP pic.twitter.com/yqqXXW3XKx — Kitty Shackleford (@KittyLists) October 14, 2020

Dolloff has been detained under investigation for first-degree murder. Newman was held, and then released. Here’s where it gets weirder and darker. 9News initially identified Dolloff as an armed private security guard contracted through Pinkerton security services. Turns out that he was unlicensed and operating as a security guard illegally in Denver. Pinkerton denied Dolloff was an employee and refuses to name the company, if one exists, that subcontracted Dolloff out. Newman did not respond to my questions about the exact nature of his relationship with Dolloff or how many previous times Dolloff had been his “security guard” at left-wing protests and riots over the past year.

Unanswered questions are piling up:

What did Newman and Dolloff discuss as they shadowed Keltner and the agitator?

Did they have beef with Keltner?

Did Newman or Dolloff know the agitator?

Was Newman, who works for a station that has demonized conservatives all year long while whitewashing the left-wing trashing of downtown Denver, aware of Dolloff’s extensive social media footprint calling Donald Trump supporters racist fascists and posting “Rise Up” Communist revolutionary propaganda?

"Had this shooting been the other way around, there'd be non-stop, 24-hr coverage of it…We've been trying to keep this story alive, because they're trying to bury it." –@casper4colorado, who attended #PatriotMuster, on #DenverShooting. #9NewsDoesntWantYouToKnow #LeeKeltnerRIP pic.twitter.com/0M40p7Cg8v — Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) October 13, 2020

What happened to Colorado patriot Lee Keltner should be a national outrage. It was, in my view, a brazen and cold-blooded media-political assassination. Casper Stockham agrees. “Imagine if this shooting had been the other way around,” Stockham said. “There would be nonstop, 24-hour coverage of it.” But because Keltner was part of the “Patriot Muster,” and not part of the “Mob Muster” or “Liberal Media Muster,” you’ll hear nothing but crickets from American Pravda. Their silence is violence.

***

New Twitter thread tonight on Jeremiah Elliott, the BGM t-shirt-wearing professional agitator:

NEW #denvershooting THREAD: So @kdvr posted unredacted version of affidavit/application for arrest warrant that names "Black Guns Matter" agitator who menaced Patriot Muster attendees Saturday & provoked confrontation w/ #LeeKeltner that led to his murder==> Jeremiah Elliott. /1 pic.twitter.com/VNPfm97k2U

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) October 13, 2020

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Republicans assaulted, approximately one hundred million in property damage.

Before Trump cleared Lafayette Park, they made a start on burning down his church, injured numerous cops, and drove normies out of the park with rocks.

They attempted to murder Kyle on video, and none of those attempting to murder him have been arrested or charged.

What has Trump been doing, what have Trump supporters been doing, that your family should feel afraid?

I watch this video.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/kyle-rittenhouse-attorney-releases-video-in-se...

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I have reason to feel afraid.

What makes your family feel afraid?

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 08:32:03AM -0400, Karl wrote:

I'll vote for Trump if you help me build tools for electromagnetic security.

Karl I'd happily help you with your electromagetic stuff regardless of who you vote for - they are completely unrelated issues. I never done RF other than a bit o readin on le Wakky (Wikipedia) though, so I can't be of much use personally. Let's vote (if you do) according to conscience, heart and mind, and similarly in the projects we choose to do. I personally like the sound of your RF project. Good luck,