I'll vote for Trump if you help me build tools for electromagnetic security.

On 10/15/20, Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 03:39:55PM +1000, jamesd@echeque.com wrote:
>> On 2020-10-15 11:15, Karl wrote:
>> > Let the figureheads elect themselves.
>> >
>> > I can't handle this.  I'm in a state of mind where I don't know how to
>> > stop
>> > engaging the list, and my whole family is democratic.  I hear stories
>> > of
>> > people suffering from Trump, most of my family has looked into
>> > citizenship
>> > in other countries out of fear of him.
>>
>> They are just bullshitting, and a major reason why they are bullshitting
>> is that they fear leftist violence.
>>
>> We are getting Trump supporters shot dead in the street, leading
>
>
> Latest example, write up by Michelle Malkin, this article banned by
> FaceBook:
>
>    A Media-Political Assassination in Denver
>    Michelle Malkin • October 13, 2020 • 900 Words
>    https://www.unz.com/mmalkin/a-media-political-assassination-in-denver/
>
>       Do Colorado patriots’ lives matter?
>
>       On a sunny Saturday afternoon, after gathering with Benghazi
>       Marine hero John “Tig” Tiegen at Civic Center Plaza in Denver to
>       show pride in America, hundreds of citizens departed a peaceful
>       “Patriot Muster” feeling inspired. They filed out of the park
>       bedecked in Old Glory, Thin Blue Line flags and MAGA hats. Some
>       came in wheelchairs and walkers. Students, parents and
>       grandparents all rallied. Military veterans turned out in force.
>
>       Tiegen’s men came trained and prepared to defend their supporters.
>       Denver police and Arapahoe County sheriff’s deputies kept better
>       order.
>
>       Remember: Three months ago, the “Back the Blue” rally that I
>       attended with hundreds of others at the very same Civic Center
>       Plaza was shut down by violent antifa and Black Lives Matter
>       vigilantes.
>       https://www.unz.com/mmalkin/one-nation-under-anarcho-tyranny/
>
>       Remember: The Denver police union president, Nick Rogers, blew the
>       whistle on how top brass (led by a police chief who marched
>       arm-in-arm with BLM protestors this summer) issued a retreat order
>       while the mob trampled our constitutional rights to free speech
>       and peaceable assembly.
>       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN-Mauf8VTQ
>
>       In July, the thugs wielded metal rods, skateboards and megaphones
>       to threaten and assault law-abiding citizens. Organizer Ron
>       MacLachlan was beaten bloody just feet from me on stage.
>       Republican statehouse candidate Laurel Imer was shoved down the
>       stage steps by Black Lives Matter rioters. Conservative activist
>       Lori Woods was allegedly assaulted by a crazed antifa agitator and
>       repeat arrestee Caryn Sodaro — the only violent mob operative
>       charged with a crime.
>       https://twitter.com/JoeyCamp2020/status/1303137041656549376/photo/2
>
>       This time, Tiegen’s event went more smoothly. Barriers kept
>       rioters from invading the plaza. Casper Stockham, a Black
>       Republican congressional candidate who had also attended the “Back
>       the Blue” fiasco, told me one prominent Black militant agitator
>       called him a “house n—-a” and challenged him to a fight. The
>       provocateur wore a “Black Guns Matter” T-shirt to deceive the
>       conservative, pro-Second Amendment crowd. The same cretin later
>       threatened to rape female attendees.
>       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoSiirMBtLo
>
>       “It was disgusting, but those types of things don’t stop me,”
>       Stockham told me. The “Patriot Muster” almost went off with a
>       single hitch. Almost.
>
>       One man who answered the call to “stand up and show up” didn’t
>       make it home. From my close analysis of footage and interviews
>       with witnesses, it appears the tragedy was engineered.
>
>       As the last group of “Patriot Muster” attendees walked to their
>       cars, the same agitator who accosted Stockham and others also
>       initiated a verbal altercation with 49-year-old Lee Keltner. A
>       cheerful cowboy hat maker, veteran, and father of two from
>       Brighton, Colorado, his mission was “keeping the West alive, one
>       hat at a time.” While Keltner was trailed by the Black militant
>       agitator, a Trump-hating Occupy Denver radical named Matthew
>       Dolloff and a local NBC affiliate investigative producer for
>       Denver’s 9News named Zack Newman conferred with each other nearby.
>       At some point, Dolloff handed his cellphone to Newman.
>
>              New composite of the Denver shooting including the footage
>              from the producer's camera.
>                  Part 1/2. pic.twitter.com/DYYAxe8J33
>                      — L 🤺 (@SomeBitchIKnow) October 14, 2020
>
>       Minutes later, photographers and videographers filmed the agitator
>       aggressively daring Keltner to deploy a can of bear spray he was
>       holding to protect himself as Dolloff and Newman stood by. Keltner
>       resisted engaging in any physical brawl as the agitator escalated.
>       Mere seconds later, he walked away from the agitator only to walk
>       right into what appears to be a deadly ambush with Dolloff. In an
>       instant, Dolloff appeared to grab for something on Keltner’s chest
>       (his holstered weapon?) while Keltner slapped at his face. Dolloff
>       then whipped out a gun and blew off Keltner’s face as the veteran
>       backed away, spraying his repellant in self-defense.
>
>       Newman gawked at the entire melee with two phones in his hand. But
>       photos showed him, bizarrely, not filming the shooting despite
>       being there on assignment for 9News.
>
> [NOTE to self: 9News USA/Denver hires murder co-conspirators.]
>
>             This is the producer's view of the incident that 9NEWS has
>             released today. He "stops filming for 12 seconds," but
>             suddenly starts filming again AS he is being told to get on
>             the ground by police. Interesting that he supposedly stopped
>             filming, and started filming at that moment.
>             https://t.co/jeVvb9azrP pic.twitter.com/yqqXXW3XKx
>             — Kitty Shackleford (@KittyLists) October 14, 2020
>
>       Dolloff has been detained under investigation for first-degree
>       murder. Newman was held, and then released. Here’s where it gets
>       weirder and darker. 9News initially identified Dolloff as an armed
>       private security guard contracted through Pinkerton security
>       services. Turns out that he was unlicensed and operating as a
>       security guard illegally in Denver. Pinkerton denied Dolloff was
>       an employee and refuses to name the company, if one exists, that
>       subcontracted Dolloff out. Newman did not respond to my questions
>       about the exact nature of his relationship with Dolloff or how
>       many previous times Dolloff had been his “security guard” at
>       left-wing protests and riots over the past year.
>
>       Unanswered questions are piling up:
>
>       What did Newman and Dolloff discuss as they shadowed Keltner and
>       the agitator?
>
>       Did they have beef with Keltner?
>
>       Did Newman or Dolloff know the agitator?
>
>       Was Newman, who works for a station that has demonized
>       conservatives all year long while whitewashing the left-wing
>       trashing of downtown Denver, aware of Dolloff’s extensive social
>       media footprint calling Donald Trump supporters racist fascists
>       and posting “Rise Up” Communist revolutionary propaganda?
>
>             "Had this shooting been the other way around, there'd be
>             non-stop, 24-hr coverage of it…We've been trying to keep
>             this story alive, because they're trying to bury it."
>             –@casper4colorado, who attended #PatriotMuster, on
>             #DenverShooting. #9NewsDoesntWantYouToKnow
>             #LeeKeltnerRIP pic.twitter.com/0M40p7Cg8v
>                — Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) October 13, 2020
>
>       What happened to Colorado patriot Lee Keltner should be a national
>       outrage. It was, in my view, a brazen and cold-blooded
>       media-political assassination. Casper Stockham agrees. “Imagine if
>       this shooting had been the other way around,” Stockham said.
>       “There would be nonstop, 24-hour coverage of it.” But because
>       Keltner was part of the “Patriot Muster,” and not part of the “Mob
>       Muster” or “Liberal Media Muster,” you’ll hear nothing but
>       crickets from American Pravda. Their silence is violence.
>
>       ***
>
>       New Twitter thread tonight on Jeremiah Elliott, the BGM
>       t-shirt-wearing professional agitator:
>
>             NEW #denvershooting THREAD: So @kdvr posted unredacted
>             version of affidavit/application for arrest warrant that
>             names "Black Guns Matter" agitator who menaced Patriot
>             Muster attendees Saturday & provoked confrontation w/
>             #LeeKeltner that led to his murder==> Jeremiah Elliott.
>             /1 pic.twitter.com/VNPfm97k2U
>
>                — Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) October 13, 2020
>
>
>
>> Republicans assaulted, approximately one hundred million in property
>> damage.
>>
>> Before Trump cleared Lafayette Park, they made a start on burning down
>> his church, injured numerous cops, and drove normies out of the park
>> with rocks.
>>
>> They attempted to murder Kyle on video, and none of those attempting to
>> murder him have been arrested or charged.
>>
>> What has Trump been doing, what have Trump supporters been doing, that
>> your family should feel afraid?
>>
>> I watch this video.
>> https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/kyle-rittenhouse-attorney-releases-video-in-self-defense-claim/
>>
>> I have reason to feel afraid.
>>
>> What makes your family feel afraid?
>>
>>
>