Subject: Re: Watching the watchers: spook database
Specifically job hunters/HR department types. They lack the opsec training. And, inspite of never having had a clearance or working in an agency (mostly), they usually learn of coverterms/project names which managers are hiring from because even thouse with training often slip or don't know. Then the HR people use those terms for attention getting of possible candidate - and everyone wants to appear "in the know" as to be credible.
Beschreibung: “Proficient in Microsoft Word and Xkeyscore” and similar phrases are surprisingly common on LinkedIn profiles. NSA contractors, military, and others involved in the surveillance state post seemingly coded and harmless details about their work in job listings,
You'd be surprised how many of these people are open about having a TS/SCI +poly clearance. While the people who wrote the backend for Pinwale might not be open about it on LinkedIn, people who use Pinwale in their jobs might be. A good (unanswered) question might be just how many people who've worked for Booz Allen Hamilton (as listed on LI) *don't* use classified keywords compared to the number that do. People tend to think that LinkedIn is a safe environment to be open about their past work. Which is obviously bullshit, and I'd posit that it's actually worse than Facebook because your information is shared with the general public. Even with higher privacy settings enabled, anyone with a paid Recruiter account can see everything. ~Griffin Softy wrote:
Specifically job hunters/HR department types.
They lack the opsec training. And, inspite of never having had a clearance or working in an agency (mostly), they usually learn of coverterms/project names which managers are hiring from because even thouse with training often slip or don't know. Then the HR people use those terms for attention getting of possible candidate - and everyone wants to appear "in the know" as to be credible.
Beschreibung: “Proficient in Microsoft Word and Xkeyscore” and similar phrases are surprisingly common on LinkedIn profiles. NSA contractors, military, and others involved in the surveillance state post seemingly coded and harmless details about their work in job listings,
Indeed. try removing your resume once you've made the mistake of uploading it! Maybe if I went paid account route I might be able to, but ... somehow ... doubt it.
shared with the general public. Even with higher privacy settings enabled, anyone with a paid Recruiter account can see everything.
- daniel
| Indeed. try removing your resume once you've made the mistake of | uploading it! Maybe if I went paid account route I might be able to, | but ... somehow ... doubt it. In the order of things, Assured Deletion is harder than Naming, and Naming is harder than Confidentiality. IMHO, --dan
On 5/8/15, Griffin Boyce <griffin@cryptolab.net> wrote:
... A good (unanswered) question might be just how many people who've worked for Booz Allen Hamilton (as listed on LI) *don't* use classified keywords compared to the number that do.
now you're looking for the "absence" of information - a hole where there should be at least something. this is absolutely the more interesting question! :P
On Sat, May 9, 2015, at 02:25 AM, Griffin Boyce wrote:
about their past work. Which is obviously bullshit, and I'd posit that it's actually worse than Facebook because your information is shared with the general public. Even with higher privacy settings enabled, anyone with a paid Recruiter account can see everything.
This comment will probably be the impetus for someone on this list to start a "clearance-only" LinkedIn clone. Alfie -- Alfie John alfiej@fastmail.fm
Alfie John wrote:
On Sat, May 9, 2015, at 02:25 AM, Griffin Boyce wrote:
about their past work. Which is obviously bullshit, and I'd posit that it's actually worse than Facebook because your information is shared with the general public. Even with higher privacy settings enabled, anyone with a paid Recruiter account can see everything.
This comment will probably be the impetus for someone on this list to start a "clearance-only" LinkedIn clone.
That already exists (clearancejobs.com and others). There are actually tons of ads all over DC for these services, most notably the "Life of a Secret Squirrel" series. Really: https://www.flickr.com/photos/clearancejobs/8634488049/in/photostream/ DC is a weird place sometimes. best, Griffin -- “Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple.” ― Dr. Seuss
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